I attempted to hold a discussion with the OP. He kept repeating again and again the same statements as if repetition would suddenly make them more true. My position as I stated is that Fedora Legal counsel's advice is people are free to help those in embargoed nations with Fedora support issues as per the dictates of their conscience. Clearly it would be illegal to supply them with such embargoed software and there would be penalties for that but that isn't the issue.

I quieted them because the discussion was repeating and going nowhere and they would not let it lie.

Clive aka DiscordianUK


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:48 AM, irc-support-sig <trac@fedorahosted.org> wrote:
#156: maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social
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  Reporter:  nixfas    |      Owner:
      Type:  feedback  |     Status:  new
  Priority:  critical  |  Milestone:  Fedora 19
   Version:            |   Severity:  Negative
Resolution:            |   Keywords:  war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By:            |   Blocking:
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Comment (by nixfas):

 '''IRC QUOTE, the most relevant of the ALL LOG:'''
 ----
 ago 09 01:11:24 <nix\>  Is legal or allowed submit to Koji M$ office[[BR]]

 151     2007 in rpm format?[[BR]]

 152     ago 09 01:11:29 <nix\>  is possible, using wine[[BR]]

 153     ago 09 01:11:53 <fenris02>      nix\, depends which countries laws
 you obey
 154     now doesnt it.[[BR]]

 155     ago 09 01:12:05 <fenris02>      nix\, THINK for a minute.  REAL
 HARD.[[BR]]

 156     ago 09 01:12:46 <HadalPoint>    nix\: You should package Internet
 157     Explorer 6 in rpm format and submit to Koji. I'll support the
 effort![[BR]]

 158     ago 09 01:13:13 <nix\>  fenris02: Argentina[[BR]]

 159     ago 09 01:13:15 <nix\>  Legal is legal[[BR]]

 160     ago 09 01:13:18 <nix\>  law is ley[[BR]]

 161     ago 09 01:13:19 <fenris02>      nix\, WRONG[[BR]]

 162     ago 09 01:13:40 '''<fenris02>      nix\, in argentina, WAR
 criminals were given'''
 163     '''leeway for 60 years for crimes against humanity'''[[BR]]

 164     '''ago 09 01:13:52 <nix\>  fenris02: is other thing'''[[BR]]

 165     ago 09 01:13:52 <fenris02>      MANY, countless thousands
 died.[[BR]]

 166     ago 09 01:14:11 <fenris02>      nix\, "legal" in .ar is not the
 same as .us
 167     or .ru or any other country[[BR]]

 168     ago 09 01:14:20 <nix\>  fenris02: actually war criminals are in
 prission[[BR]]

 169     ago 09 01:14:33 <fenris02>      nix\, no, they roamed free 60+
 years.[[BR]]

 170     ago 09 01:14:36 <HadalPoint>    fenris02: Unless it's over the
 internet
 171     of course. Then all laws apply. cough[[BR]]

 172     ago 09 01:14:44 <fenris02>      nix\, c'mon, you know your
 history.[[BR]]

 173     '''ago 09 01:14:47 <EvilBob>       lol'''[[BR]]

 174     ago 09 01:14:52 <nix\>  fenris02: speaking of gramatic, is the
 same in
 175     .uy .ar .es .co etc[[BR]]

 176     '''ago 09 01:14:53 <fenris02>      nix\, think back to the mid-80s
 in your own'''
 177     '''country'''[[BR]]

 178     ago 09 01:15:14 <nix\>  fenris02: yes, I know the history... is
 legal
 179     that CIA do?[[BR]]

 180     ago 09 01:15:15 <fenris02>      why do i know what happened in the
 70s and
 181     80s in your country and you do not nix\ ?[[BR]]

 182     ago 09 01:15:29 <HadalPoint>    nix\: It's okay, I agree with
 you... so
 183     does Judge Dredd. THE LAW IS THE LAW.[[BR]]

 184     ago 09 01:15:42 <nix\>  fenris02: I have no shame about it, is
 that my
 185     country sucks about many things[[BR]]

 186     ago 09 01:15:48 <fenris02>      nix\, legal?  does not apply if
 you are
 187     outside the country .. you obey the remote countries laws[[BR]]

 188     ago 09 01:16:07 <fenris02>      nix\, you obey the laws of the
 country you
 189     reside in. not the one you were born.[[BR]]

 190     ago 09 01:16:09 <nix\>  HadalPoint: Exctly[[BR]]

 191     ago 09 01:16:11 <nix\>  a*[[BR]]

 192     ago 09 01:16:12 <fenris02>      nix\, they CHANGE[[BR]]

 193     ago 09 01:16:18 <HadalPoint>    lol..[[BR]]

 194     ago 09 01:16:39 <fenris02>      nix\, stop being a fool.[[BR]]

 195     '''ago 09 01:16:48 <nix\>  fenris02: criminal 70-80 read in
 wikipedia'''
 196     '''"operacion condor"'''[[BR]]

 197     ago 09 01:16:59 <fenris02>      nix\, yep.  i'm quite
 familiar[[BR]]

 198     ago 09 01:17:10 <nix\>
 199     http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operaci%C3%B3n_C%C3%B3ndor[[BR]]

 200     ago 09 01:17:18 <nix\>  well[[BR]]

 201     '''ago 09 01:17:22 <EvilBob>       es?'''[[BR]]

 202     ago 09 01:17:31 <nix\>  all war in argentina, uruguay, etc of
 latam[[BR]]

 203     '''ago 09 01:17:32 <EvilBob>       I don't read Mexican't'''[[BR]]

 204     '''ago 09 01:17:36 <fenris02>      changing topics to avoid
 admitting fault?'''
 205     '''nice troll effort there nix\'''[[BR]] -> I'm the troll? I
 starting the conversation about crimes, war and history of my country?

 206     ago 09 01:17:37 <nix\>  was orquested by eeuu[[BR]]

 207     ago 09 01:17:55 <nix\>  by the CIA[[BR]]

 208     ago 09 01:18:24 <fenris02>      how's that iphone working for you
 nix\ ?
 209     any of your friends have one?[[BR]]

 210     ago 09 01:18:24 <HadalPoint>    What does the CIA have to do with
 211     Microsoft-Office.rpm ?[[BR]]

 212     ago 09 01:18:26 <nix\>  Chile, Argentina, Brasil, Paraguay,
 Uruguay,
 213     Bolivia , PerĂș, Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador[[BR]]

 214     ago 09 01:18:30 <fenris02>      HadalPoint, about nothing[[BR]]

 215     '''ago 09 01:18:36 <nix\>  EvilBob: Spanish'''[[BR]]

 216     '''ago 09 01:18:39 <nix\>  No .mx'''[[BR]]

 217     ago 09 01:19:00 <fenris02>      iphone is perfectly legal to have
 if you are
 218     in .us ..[[BR]]

 219     '''ago 09 01:19:00 <EvilBob>       You say spinach I say
 Mexican't'''[[BR]]

 220     '''ago 09 01:19:04 *       fenris02 waits for it ..'''[[BR]]

 221     ago 09 01:19:06 <HadalPoint>    EvilBob: lol[[BR]]

 222     ago 09 01:19:11 <nix\>  fenris02: No, i no change the topic for
 admit
 223     nothing.[[BR]]

 224     '''ago 09 01:19:16 <fenris02>      nix\, hahahahahhaa'''[[BR]]

 225     '''ago 09 01:19:17 <nix\>  Only respond, shit with shit.'''[[BR]]

 226     '''ago 09 01:19:20 <fenris02>      nix\, move along.'''[[BR]]

 227     '''ago 09 01:19:58 <nix\>  EvilBob: Spanish'''[[BR]]

 228     '''ago 09 01:20:10 <EvilBob>       Yeah, Mexican't'''[[BR]]

 229     '''ago 09 01:20:17 <nix\>  Mexican is spanish too, but with some
 argot'''[[BR]]

 230     ago 09 01:20:20 <EvilBob>       ;)[[BR]]

 231     ago 09 01:20:53 <nix\>  fenris02: If you way "criminal war", etc,
 i say
 232     "yes, orquested by the CIA of eeuu".[[BR]]

 233     '''ago 09 01:20:59 <EvilBob>       nix\: As long as you don't
 claim to be'''
 234     '''American, we will be OK'''[[BR]]

 235     ago 09 01:21:22 <nix\>  EvilBob: Are you much nacionalist?[[BR]]

 236     '''ago 09 01:21:23 <HadalPoint>    EvilBob: South
 American?'''[[BR]]

 237     ago 09 01:21:32 <nix\>  similar to george bush?[[BR]]

 238     ago 09 01:21:51 <nix\>  hate arabic, nigger, latam, etc?[[BR]]

 239     ago 09 01:21:55 *       FranciscoD
 240     (~Ankur^^@pdpc/supporter/active/franciscod) ha entrado en #fedora-
 social[[BR]]

 241     ago 09 01:21:58 <HadalPoint>    ehh[[BR]]

 242     ago 09 01:22:04 <nix\>  hating*[[BR]]

 243     '''ago 09 01:22:19 <nix\>  America is a continent'''[[BR]]

 244     '''ago 09 01:22:29 *       fedbot establece modo +q #fedora-social
 nix\!*@*'''
 245     '''ago 09 01:22:30 <fedbot>        nix\, You have been quieted in
 this channel'''
 246     '''for 15 minutes. Please read the FAQ in the channel topic and
 consider'''
 247     '''changing your approach and/or the behavior that is disrupting
 the'''
 248     '''channel. Take a break and consider things.'''[[BR]]

 249     ago 09 01:22:33 <nix\>  North America other and South America
 other[[BR]]

 250     '''ago 09 01:22:33 *       #fedora-social :Cannot send to
 channel'''[[BR]]
 [[BR]]



 nirik, or the person responsible for solve this IRC ticket, read this
 resume of the LOG and note the bold marked words. The log was not
 modified, only is a cut of the full log and marked with bold the most
 relevant words that involves the abuse and racism problem descript
 here.[[BR]]
 Thank you

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