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anybody seen my "wherewithal"?

On 11/03/2011 02:57 AM, Chris Punches wrote:
> Just so that I understand clearly, I missed your comment about users
> you "associate with me" (interesting because I rarely, rarely speak
> in that channel, but let's work with this for the sake of
> understanding)-- it is okay for Mr. Jensen to disrupt your channel
> but not the people you're referring to? I don't know about any
> other disruptions but if you email me some logs I'll look into it if
> it's someone from SILO. I can't be responsible for anybody else.
>
> I do see that as a separate issue from Mr. Jensen's behavior and a
> distraction from the fact that he regularly disrupts your channel
> and abuses your users while it is being regularly overlooked and
> treated as isolated events and I have a difficult time seeing how
> that is tolerable in your otherwise mostly great community. I'd
> like some kind of disciplinary action taken in the future leading up
> to Bob Jensen's removal from the fedora channels and projects-- or
> I'd like referred to the contact point of a SIG or persons that has
> the authority (or wherewithal) to look into it.
>
> If there weren't years of this kind of behavior with him I wouldn't
> even know his name. Sorry that took 3 replies to say.
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 05:42, Chris Punches <punches.chris@gmail.com
> <mailto:punches.chris@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Also, it is certainly time for you guys to start considering
> when "enough is enough" with Mr. Jensen and stop treating these
> behaviors of his as isolated incidents. I'm pretty sure you are
> old enough to know better (as is he).
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 05:40, Chris Punches
> <punches.chris@gmail.com <mailto:punches.chris@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I don't have a personal issue with him beyond his abuse of
> users in your channel. I am constantly reading this abuse
> through the SILO crowd. I am also constantly reading these
> kinds of reports. Your channel is currently grossly
> neglected at an administrative level and I believe you're
> well aware of this.
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 22:23, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@scrye.com
> <mailto:kevin@scrye.com>> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:09:42 -0400
> Chris Punches <punches.chris@gmail.com
> <mailto:punches.chris@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > It is absolutely disgusting that this bjensen is so
> continuously
> > assigned as arbiter to these tickets when so many of
> these complaints
> > are about his own behavior. When are one of you guys
> going to step
> > in and get that guy out of there? This was obviously
> yet another
> > instance of a conflict of interest. The logs are
> public for that
> > channel iirc and we know bjensen was present for the
> conversation
> > that resulted in the complaint, so instead of posting
> logs he just
> > closes the ticket! How's that for accountability?
>
> He did not close the ticket, simply commented.
>
> You have an axe to grind with Bob. We get it.
> You hate him. We get it.
> Your contribution seems to be to wait until there is a
> negative ticket
> on him and pile on more negativity.
>
> Right after this ticket was filed and you commented,
> several folks that
> I associate with you started disrupting the channel, as
> well is a new
> nick that I had never seen before. Such negativity and
> ambulance
> chasing are quite sad.
>
> My suggestion would be for you to look at positive ways
> to contribute
> and let go whatever grudges you hold.
>
> kevin
>
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