How does someone find the SIG page?
by Jason Hibbets
Hey - In an attempt to find the ISV SIG page today, I had a very
difficult time navigating from the main page for Fedora Project main to
the SIG ISV page. (Thanks BK!) Obviously, there is a unique balance of
how things are organized and how high up on the tree one can go. I, and
other's on this list, are working hard to promote this group, and we've
been giving the direct link out.
I guess I can not expect some random ISV person cruising the Fedora site
to find and sign-up for the group. What is the best way that we can
make sure people are able to find this page so they can participate?
Thanks,
Jason
15 years, 8 months
JPackage and Fedora
by Matthew Dahlman
Hi all,
I've got a question about JPackage. Before getting to the question I'll
give a bit of background. JasperServer, like most Java apps running in an
application server, does not directly ship the source for many of our .jar
dependencies; we retrieve them from trusted maven repositories. Anyone
that's interested can track down the source to any of the jar files, but
we don't normally ship it. This may not be in keeping with Fedora's
guidelines.
Therefore it would be good if we had a standard way to distribute the
various jars along with their source. That brings us to JPackage (JPP).
According to their site (http://www.jpackage.org/aboutjpp.php):
The JPackage Project has two primary goals:
- To provide a coherent set of Java software packages for Linux,
satisfying all quality requirements of other applications.
- To establish an efficient and robust policy for Java software packaging
and installation.
I also noticed that Fedora includes jpackage-utils by default. This brings
me, finally, to my question. Is JPackage the correct place to direct our
efforts to get all of our jar dependencies included?
I'm hoping for answers somewhere along this continuum:
"Yes, JPackage is the one and only place for work like this. Fedora
officially supports this project and recommends that all Java apps use
it."
or
"Yes, JPackage is a reasonable place for this work. There are some details
to work out because they do a few things differently from Fedora best
practices. Alternatively you could use X or Y."
or
"No, those JPackage guys will be the death of Java as we know it. Maybe of
death of Linux and of life as we know it as well."
Depending on people's thoughts on this I imagine we'll eventually get into
separate detailed threads on how JPackage works with foo.jar here and/or
on the JPackage mailing list.
Thanks,
Matt
Jaspersoft
15 years, 8 months
Open Source Project Enthusiasm
by Jason Hibbets
An interesting article on community building, open source project
enthusiasm, and some misconception around project adaption.
Growing Up Asterisk
http://ostatic.com/170837-blog/growing-up-asterisk
"Open source project leaders should take this lesson to heart and
examine their growth strategies. Your project may be doomed to failure
or relegated to the ever growing list of niche projects out there today
if you reach too far too fast or fail to reach for the right people at
the right time."
--
Jason Hibbets, RHCE
RHX & ISV Marketing Specialist
Office - 919.754.4181
Red Hat :: 1801 Varsity Drive :: Raleigh, NC 27606
IT executives: Red Hat #1 in value. Again.
http://www.redhat.com/promo/vendor/
15 years, 8 months
waiting on review, thought 2
by Karsten Wade
I'd like to draw attention to packages that you are waiting on for
review, especially where the software is popular and desired across
Fedora, but people may not be aware it is waiting in package review.
I'm thinking of two things:
* Having a wiki page that regularly updates our "hot list" of package
review needs:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/ISV_package_review_hot_list
Either add your list there or send it here, I can compile it on going.
* Some general publicity, such as blog posts on the Fedora planet
Another item we all want to work on is growing the membership of this
list. There are many more ISVs that I have talked with who *need* to be
on this list but have not yet sent at least one representative. If you
know someone and so one, tell them about this unique communication
channel inside of Fedora.
Thanks - Karsten
--
Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr.
Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com
Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org
gpg key : AD0E0C41
15 years, 8 months
[Fwd: [Thincrust-devel] Fedora Feature Request Appliance Building]
by Bryan Kearney
David Huff is working on an "Appliance Building" feature for F10. He is
looking for input on the feature, please see the email below and send
any comments his way.
Thanks!
-- bk
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Thincrust-devel] Fedora Feature Request Appliance Building
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:30:47 -0400
From: David Huff <dhuff(a)redhat.com>
Reply-To: Thincrust tooling devel list <thincrust-devel(a)redhat.com>
To: thincrust-devel(a)redhat.com
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I have combined the two feature request in to one. Any comments before I
submit to FeatureWrangler for approval:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/appliance-tools
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15 years, 8 months
Trademarks in ISV packages.
by Stephen John Smoogen
We just set up our own zimbra system here (sadly not with rpms) and I
noticed that the default layout of the free version has several Yahoo
trademarks on the screen. Will this cause problems with licensing or
packaging?
--
Stephen J Smoogen. -- BSD/GNU/Linux
How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed
in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice"
15 years, 8 months
When to rebrand fedora?
by Bryan Kearney
I have a question. The other day I put out a sugar desktop appliance [1]
based on F9. It was pointed out that I violated the fedora trademark
policies. I did some digging, and the relevant page seems to be [2].
My question is what is a "modification". If you look at my kickstart
file [3], you see that I did 2 things which could be it:
a) I added package from a foreign repo that is also in fedora (xulrunner)
b) I added packages to to the appliance from a foreign repo
Does anyone know which item (a or b) was the actual issue? I bring this
up here since as ISVs begin to get more integrated with fedora, it is
possible that they will ship appliances, live-cds, live-usbs, install
media, etc. It would be nice to know when it is necessary to re-brand to
stay in compliance with the trademark guidelines.
BTW.. it was pretty easy to rebrand the appliance, so this is not an
issue of effort.. more of clarity.
-- bk
[1] http://sugar.s3.amazonaws.com/sugarAppliance.tar.gz
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/legal/trademarks/guidelines/page5.html
[3] http://sugar.s3.amazonaws.com/sugar.ks
15 years, 9 months
