August 2005 - java-devel - Fedora mailing-lists

avalon-framework and doclet classes
by Anthony Green 06 Jan '06

06 Jan '06

Gary - I was trying to build something recently that required org.apache.avalon.framework.logger.Log4JLogger from avalon-framework. The avalon-framework.jar file in FC4 appears to be missing this class. I grabbed the SRPM file from rawhide and attempted to build that instead. The build failed with this... [javadoc] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.sun.tools.doclets.standard.Standard not found in gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{urls=[file:./,file:./], parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.ExtensionClassLoader{urls=[], parent=null}} I've seen this before. It seems that our com-sun-javadoc or com-sun-tools-doclets-Taglet jar should be on the default classpath somehow. In any case, I noticed that this build of the jar file includes the proper class, but as far as I can tell, this is the same SRPM that was used in FC4. Why wouldn't the FC4 jar file contain the Log4JLogger class? Thanks! AG

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ecj problem and patch
by Anthony Green 29 Oct '05

29 Oct '05

As discussed on #fedora-java IRC (irc.freenode.net) The Eclipse batch compiler appears to place bootclasspath before classpath, making it impossible to override classes in libgcj.jar. This is a problem for jpackages wanting to use xml-commons-apis, which provides an alternate version of org.w3c.dom. I produced the following patch, which needs to be applied last in our set of Eclipse patches. Another snag I hit was that the FC4 Eclipse SRPM doesn't build anymore, since the archived make files reference an outdated version of mozilla. swttmp/build.sh should probably contain something like this instead of hardcoded values: GECKO_INCLUDES=`pkg-config mozilla-gtkmozembed --cflags` GECKO_LIBS='pkg-config mozilla-gtkmozembed --libs` But I see that patching this isn't simple because build.sh is extracted from a .zip file at build time. Hopefully overholt has a good idea for fixing this. While eclipse didn't build - it did build enough to give me a jdtcore.jar file I could manually install (after generating jdtcore.jar.so by hand). My tests of the patched compiler indicate that this is a step closer to the right solution. Can we get this into FC4 and rawhide? AG

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GNU Classpath distro DevJam
by Mark Wielaard 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

Hi all, Various Debian packagers and developers are interested in coming together to improve the Free Software tool chain, the programs and the free runtime environments for software written in the java programming language. For such a meeting we would like to include packagers from various distributions to coordinate on library names, dependency and versioning. And to share experiences on how to integrate and map dependencies of tools like ant and maven when creating traditional GNU/Linux distribution packages. So we are proposing a developer and packager meeting around coordinating and improving the state of packaging of large scale applications written in the java programming language using the GNU Classpath, gcj and other free java-like tool chains for the various GNU/Linux distributions. Please see DevJam wiki for details: http://java.debian.net/index.php/DevJam We hope to get together a group of (20 till 30) people wanting to do some hands on hacking to show the state of the art in packaging. Resulting in the availability of several new packages, improvements to the free tool chains and cross-distribution packaging conventions quickly after the meeting. One of the ideas to keep the cost down for now is sharing the meeting with another group in Oldenburg, Germany, from September 21st to September 25th. http://meeting.ffis.de/Oldenburg2005/ If you are interested please add you name and thoughts about how to make such a meeting most effective to the wiki! And please contact us if you are interested in sponsoring the effort. Cheers, Mark -- Escape the Java Trap with GNU Classpath! http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html Join the community at http://planet.classpath.org/

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java-gcjHEAD-compat fixes
by Thomas Fitzsimmons 06 Sep '05

06 Sep '05

Hi, I fixed some things in java-gcjHEAD-compat: - removed the file conflicts with java-gcj-compat, so java-gcjHEAD-compat will install cleanly beside other java-gcj-compat installations - added "javac" to the installed tools, using Gary's bootstrap ecj jar Here are Andrew's instructions for creating a JPackage alternative for GCJ HEAD: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-java-list/2005-May/msg00046.ht… The installation of these packages runs smoothly now. Tom

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[OT] jpackage.org site down?
by Dariusz J. Garbowski 29 Aug '05

29 Aug '05

Hi, Does anybody know what's wrong with http://www.jpackage.org/ website? I cannot access it, the browser waits forever for the content... Anybody else seeing this? Regards, Dariusz -- Dariusz J. Garbowski ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com

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batik [Fwd: Re: com.sun.image.*]
by Anthony Green 25 Aug '05

25 Aug '05

If anybody is interested in running batik on our free stack, here's some info on what needs doing... AG

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HelloWorld Example Won't compile
by Charles Curley 24 Aug '05

24 Aug '05

I took the source for the HelloWorld example in the Tomcat5 samples (http://your.server:8080/servlets-examples/helloworld.html) and tried to compile it. [javac] Compiling 1 source file to /home/ccurley/src/com/charlescurley/hello/classes [javac] ---------- [javac] 1. WARNING in /home/ccurley/src/com/charlescurley/hello/src/HelloWorld.java [javac] (at line 5) [javac] public class HelloWorld extends HttpServlet { [javac] ^^^^^^^^^^ [javac] The serializable class HelloWorld does not declare a static final serialVersionUID field of type long [javac] ---------- [javac] 1 problem (1 warning) What am I missing here? [ccurley@taltos src]$ echo $CLASSPATH /usr/share/tomcat5/bin/:/usr/bin:/usr/share/java/servletapi5.jar:. -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB

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Java OpenGL on FC4
by John M. Gabriele 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

What's preferred for use on FC4: jogl or lwjgl? Or is there a third option -- maybe some way to do it with Java-Gnome? I can't find jogl or lwjgl with yum search. I found some jogl rpms in Anthony Green's folder: http://people.redhat.com/green/FC4/ but when I try to install them it tells me: [root@localhost temp]# ls *.rpm jogl-1.1b11-1fc.i386.rpm jogl-javadoc-1.1b11-1fc.i386.rpm [root@localhost temp]# rpm -ihv jogl-* error: Failed dependencies: libjawt.so.6 is needed by jogl-1.1b11-1fc.i386 Looks like a libjawt was renamed, but these rpms don't know about it. ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Starting Tomcat
by Charles Curley 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

I have FC4 as updated, and a slew of Java packages installed in order to run tomcat. I get the following error when trying to start it: -------------------------------------------------- [root@taltos lib]# service tomcat5 start Starting tomcat5: lock file found but no process running for pid 11395, continuing /usr/bin/rebuild-jar-repository: error: could not find jta Java extension for this JVM /usr/bin/rebuild-jar-repository: error: All detected jars were not found for this jvm find: warning: you have specified the -mindepth option after a non-option argument -type, but options are not positional (-mindepth affects tests specified before it as well as those specified after it). Please specify options before other arguments. find: warning: you have specified the -maxdepth option after a non-option argument -type, but options are not positional (-maxdepth affects tests specified before it as well as those specified after it). Please specify options before other arguments. Using CATALINA_BASE: /usr/share/tomcat5 Using CATALINA_HOME: /usr/share/tomcat5 Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /usr/share/tomcat5/temp Using JAVA_HOME: /usr/lib/jvm/java [ OK ] [root@taltos lib]# -------------------------------------------------- I notice that /var/lib/tomcat5/common/lib/[jta].jar -> /could/not/find/extension/for/this/jvm, which is a cute way of telling me that the symlink is broken. OK, what should this link point to? -------------------------------------------------- [root@taltos lib]# locate jta | xargs ls -l -rwx------ 1 ccurley ccurley 6841 May 26 13:06 /home/ccurley/.emacs.d/site-lisp/jde/lisp/jtags -rwx------ 1 ccurley ccurley 6678 May 26 13:06 /home/ccurley/.emacs.d/site-lisp/jde/lisp/jtags.csh lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 51 Aug 18 13:10 /usr/lib/jvm-exports/java-1.4.2-gcj-1.4.2.0/jta-1.4.2.0.jar -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-1.4.2.0/jre/lib/jta.jar lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Aug 18 13:10 /usr/lib/jvm-exports/java-1.4.2-gcj-1.4.2.0/jta-1.4.2.jar -> jta-1.4.2.0.jar lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Aug 18 13:10 /usr/lib/jvm-exports/java-1.4.2-gcj-1.4.2.0/jta.jar -> jta-1.4.2.0.jar lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 Aug 18 13:10 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-1.4.2.0/jre/lib/jta.jar -> /usr/share/java/libgcj-4.0.1.jar lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 Aug 21 19:08 /var/lib/tomcat5/common/lib/[jta].jar -> /could/not/find/extension/for/this/jvm -------------------------------------------------- I have installed Sun's jvm via the jpackage proceedure. -------------------------------------------------- [root@taltos lib]# pre sun java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.04-1jpp java-1.5.0-sun-demo-1.5.0.04-1jpp java-1.5.0-sun-devel-1.5.0.04-1jpp java-1.5.0-sun-fonts-1.5.0.04-1jpp java-1.5.0-sun-alsa-1.5.0.04-1jpp java-1.5.0-sun-plugin-1.5.0.04-1jpp java-1.5.0-sun-jdbc-1.5.0.04-1jpp -------------------------------------------------- Do I need Sun's jdk in order to develop servlets? -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB

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JOnAS on gcj conformance test results
by Andrew Haley 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

Tom and Bryce made a patch to fix the class loader deadlock that Bryce said was blocking testsuite runs, and I applied it. I thought it might be interesting to run the testsuite, but I remembered Bryce's comment about running out of memory with many threads, so I reduced the thread stack size to 256k, which is the same as Sun IIRC. I ran the testsuite, and got some results: 91.07% success rate. Results here: http://people.redhat.com/~aph/jeremie-Linux-HSQL1-1.4.2-$%7bwebcontainer.na… Running the same tests with IBM's jvm gets 95.75%. This is good, I think. The *really* good news is that JOnAS did not grow unreasonably: it never exceeded about 300M. On that basis, I don't think there's any pressing need to search for memory leaks. However, the test harness was running under IBM's java, not gcj. That's why the test result is reported as IBM. JOnAS itself was running on gcj. I had trouble running the test harness itself on gcj, so I'm going to explore that later if I get the chance. It seems that the test harness relies on some correct behaviour of javax.naming that we're not handling correctly: all the tests fail on the harness side with traces like Exception raised in setup: javax.naming.NamingException: javax.naming.NamingException: javax.naming.NameNotFoundException: 1.412 name "bankManagerROHome" not bound Caused by: javax.naming.NameNotFoundException: name "bankManagerROHome" not bound at org.objectweb.jeremie.services.registry.jndi.JRMIRegistryContext.lookup(javax.naming.Name) (/usr/lib/libjonathan-jeremie-4.2.jar.so) at javax.naming.InitialContext.lookup(javax.naming.Name) (/home/aph/gcc-4_0-branch/install/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at org.objectweb.carol.jndi.spi.JEREMIEContext.lookup(javax.naming.Name) (/usr/lib/libow_carol-1.8.9.3.jar.so) at org.objectweb.carol.jndi.spi.JEREMIEContext.lookup(java.lang.String) (/usr/lib/libow_carol-1.8.9.3.jar.so) at javax.naming.InitialContext.lookup(java.lang.String) (/home/aph/gcc-4_0-branch/install/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at org.objectweb.carol.jndi.spi.MultiContext.lookup(java.lang.String) (/usr/lib/libow_carol-1.8.9.3.jar.so) at org.objectweb.carol.jndi.spi.ContextWrapper.lookup(java.lang.String) (/usr/lib/libow_carol-1.8.9.3.jar.so) at javax.naming.InitialContext.lookup(java.lang.String) (/home/aph/gcc-4_0-branch/install/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at ... So, we need to find out why all tests fail with a javax.naming.NameNotFoundException when the test harness is run under gcj. Many of the test failures also seem to be caused by a javax.naming.NameNotFoundException, so this might be a common problem. On the downside: I saw the deadlock in the class loader again, even after Bryce's patch. I'll try to liase with Tom and Bryce to do some more debugging. gcj is not correctly initializing JOnAS' trace properties. This means that it's impossible to enable -- for example -- CAROL tracing. This is v.v.v. annoying, so I'm going to investigate it. More later. Andrew.

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Re: [jonas-team] Monolog on gcj
by Vadim Nasardinov 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

On Thursday 18 August 2005 18:07, Florent BENOIT wrote: > I applied the change (+ some doc) in the current CVS head of > Monolog. The patch is a tad suboptimal. http://cvs.forge.objectweb.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/monolog/monolog/src/org/… The reason java.util.logging.LogManager only keeps weak references to the loggers it manages is in order to avoid a resource leak. If the application chooses not to retain a hard reference to a logger, then the LogManager should not prevent the unneeded logger from getting GC-ed. Makes sense. The exact same logic applies to Monolog's LoggerFactory. It should not keep hard references to loggers it creates. It is up to the calling application to retain a reference if the app wishes to avoid the cost of creating a new logger instance every time it needs one. Where does that leave us? Andrew ran into the above problem in an old version of Carol. Recent versions do not have this problem for the simple reason that Carol no longer uses Monolog. It's been Monolog-free since March 15 (good job, Florent!): http://www.objectweb.org/wws/arc/carol-commits/2005-03/msg00078.html However, if we want to patch Monolog for those remaining parts of Jonas that continue to depend on it, then someone should take a closer look at whether or not the following class should be responsible for retaining hard references to loggers it creates: org.objectweb.util.monolog.file.monolog.PropertiesConfAccess This responsibility should most certainly not be born by the LoggerFactory class. > Andrew Haley wrote: ... > > Logger getLogger(String name) > > > > but LogManagers only keep weak references to their logs. So, as > > soon as a log has been created you need to keep a hard reference > > to it. > > > > In Monolog there is > > org.objectweb.util.monolog.wrapper.javaLog.LoggerFactory, and that > > uses a LogManager to keep track of the instances of Logger it > > creates. ... > >--- src/org/objectweb/util/monolog/wrapper/javaLog/LoggerFactory.java~ > >+++ src/org/objectweb/util/monolog/wrapper/javaLog/LoggerFactory.java > >@@ -45,6 +45,8 @@ > > */ > > protected static Logger rootLogger = null; > > > >+ private ArrayList loggers = new ArrayList(); > >+ > > /** > > * This static code initialize the value of the variable defined into > > * BasicLevel. > >@@ -145,6 +147,7 @@ > > if (o == null) { > > // It doesn't exist => creates and adds it > > Logger result = new Logger(name, resName); > >+ loggers.add(result); > > Monolog.debug("Instanciate the logger " + name); > > manager.addLogger(result); > > return result;

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Fwd: [platform-releng-dev] stick to JDK 1.4 for now
by Ismael Juma 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

Hi, mjw asked me to forward this to the list. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim des Rivieres <Jim_des_Rivieres(a)ca.ibm.com> To: platform-releng-dev(a)eclipse.org Sent: Fri Aug 19 15:19 Subject: Fwd: [platform-releng-dev] stick to JDK 1.4 for now The plan of record is that Eclipse Platform 3.2 will be based on JDK 1.5 (aka J2SE 5). However, all scheduled builds from the 3.2 stream (HEAD) will continue to be compiled against JDK 1.4 until some time in the fall. This is being done so that the JDT folks can shake out the last 1.5 bugs before unleashing the rest of us upon it. At some point (exact date TBD), we'll switch to creating our builds using the JDK 1.5 compiler and libraries. Only at this point will committers be able to get away with releasing code to the Eclipse code base that relies on JDK 1.5 language features or libraries. If you are already running Eclipse with JDK 1.5, you need to be careful to not inadventently break the build. The new language features (esp. generic types and enumerations) bring up a number of new issues re: binary compatibility. The guidelines for evolving Java-based APIs will be revised to cover the new cases. ---jim _______________________________________________ platform-releng-dev mailing list platform-releng-dev(a)eclipse.org https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-releng-dev

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Monolog on gcj
by Andrew Haley 17 Aug '05

17 Aug '05

I've been having a really bizarre time figuring out why on gcj the trace.properties file of JOnAS doesn't have any effect. It seems to be due to weak references. Java has a class called java.util.logging.LogManager, and you can get a Logger by calling getLogger: Logger getLogger(String name) but LogManagers only keep weak references to their logs. So, as soon as a log has been created you need to keep a hard reference to it. In Monolog there is org.objectweb.util.monolog.wrapper.javaLog.LoggerFactory, and that uses a LogManager to keep track of the instances of Logger it creates. So, still no hard references there and it's up to the caller of LoggerFactory to keep hard references. JOnAS calls org.objectweb.util.monolog.file.monolog.PropertiesConfAccess.load(java.util.Properties, org.objectweb.util.monolog.api.LoggerFactory, org.objectweb.util.monolog.api.HandlerFactory, org.objectweb.util.monolog.api.LevelFactory) to read the properties file for JOnAS logging, and this routine as a side-effect creates loggers for all of JOnAS's subsystems. Later on, TraceCarol does this: public static void configure(LoggerFactory lf) { carolLogger = lf.getLogger(prefix); But of course, the LoggerFactory lf only has weak references to its loggers, so these loggers it created might have disappeared. This is why it doesn't matter how I edit the properties files, I get no output: by the time carol calls getLogger, the logger no longer exists. It seems to me that this is a failure of Monolog. The only way to fix it is to have Monolog's LoggerFactory keep hard references for its loggers. All I have to do to make Monolog work correctly with gcj is add the patch below. Andrew. --- src/org/objectweb/util/monolog/wrapper/javaLog/LoggerFactory.java~ 2004-08-17 10:18:08.000000000 +0100 +++ src/org/objectweb/util/monolog/wrapper/javaLog/LoggerFactory.java 2005-08-17 19:25:51.000000000 +0100 @@ -45,6 +45,8 @@ */ protected static Logger rootLogger = null; + private ArrayList loggers = new ArrayList(); + /** * This static code initialize the value of the variable defined into * BasicLevel. @@ -145,6 +147,7 @@ if (o == null) { // It doesn't exist => creates and adds it Logger result = new Logger(name, resName); + loggers.add(result); Monolog.debug("Instanciate the logger " + name); manager.addLogger(result); return result;

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16 Aug '05

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16 Aug '05

女性紹介サークル『Venus Network』代表　富田ゆかりでございます。簡単に当サークルのご説明をさせて頂きますので下記をご覧くださいませ。当サークル男性会員様の利用明細でございます。 −−会員Ａ様のサークル利用明細−− 入会金：０円年会費：０円運営費：０円女性紹介料：０円 ************************ 小計：０円税：０円合計：０円 ************************ −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−− この明細をご覧いただきおわかりになると思いますが、当Venus Networkは紹介料などの諸費用は一切無用の完全無料の出会いサークルでございます。そして、ご紹介するだけではなく紹介後の女性とのお付き合いの仕方いわゆる女心についての疑問や質問などに対しても全面的にバックアップさせて頂きます。その都度カスタマーセンターの者が丁寧に対応致しますのでご安心くださいませ。ご紹介につきましては日本全国に多数の女性会員様がおりますのでまず貴方様の・お住まいの地域・理想の交際方法以上２点をお聞きした上で貴方様にあった女性をピックアップしご紹介させて頂きます。お手数ですが下記の質問にお答えいただきご返信くださいませ。 ■ ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ ◆Ｑ１、貴方様がお住まいの都道府県名　　　ご記入下さい。『　　　　　』 ◆Ｑ２、女性会員と理想の交際方法１、真面目にお付き合い　　（真面目な交際・結婚前提）２、高所得女性とお付き合い（事業資金などサポートして欲しい）３、割り切ったお付き合い　（愛人・セフレ・人妻）４、過激なお付き合い　　　（３Ｐ・乱交・ＳＭ）　　　数字でご記入下さい。『　　』 ■ ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ 貴方様からのご返信を頂きましたら好みの近い女性をご紹介させて頂きます。それではご連絡お待ちしております。 Venus Network 代表　富田ゆかり

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by Orion Poplawski 15 Aug '05

15 Aug '05

I'm working on packaging plplot for Fedora Extras. It has a Java interface that appears to work fine on x86 but not on ppc. Basically the Java stuff is just a JNI wrapper to the C library. Is there any way to run the java byte-code/JVM under a debugger? My first attempt to debug was to compile the program to native code and run under gdb as mentioned on the gcj website, but the native code appears to run fine. Thanks! -- Orion Poplawski System Administrator 303-415-9701 x222 Colorado Research Associates/NWRA FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane, Boulder CO 80301 http://www.co-ra.com

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by Colin Charles 15 Aug '05

15 Aug '05

Hi, Downloaded the http://juploadr.sourceforge.net/ (at version 0.6) - this is a cross-platform Flickr uploader Running it on FC-4, I get: ./jUploadr Starting JUploadr... Java exec found in PATH. Verifying... Suitable java version found [java = 1.4.2] Configuring environment... java -cp :commons-codec-1.3.jar:commons-httpclient-3.0-beta1.jar:commons-logging.jar:juploadr.jar:Piccolo.jar:swt.jar:swt-mozilla.jar:swt-pi.jar -Djava.library.path=/home/byte/bin/jUploadr-0.6-linuxGTK-i386 org.scohen.juploadr.app.JUploadr '' Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: g_utf16_to_utf8 at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(java.lang.String, char[], boolean) (/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.swt.gtk_3.1.0.jar.so) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(java.lang.String, java.lang.String, boolean) (/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.swt.gtk_3.1.0.jar.so) at org.eclipse.swt.dnd.Transfer.registerType(java.lang.String) (Unknown Source) at org.eclipse.swt.dnd.TextTransfer.<clinit>() (Unknown Source) at java.lang.Class.initializeClass() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at org.scohen.juploadr.app.JUploadr.JUploadr() (Unknown Source) at org.scohen.juploadr.app.JUploadr.main(java.lang.String[]) (Unknown Source) at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.call_main() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) I've been told by Rahul (on #fedora-java) that it seems to start the application up in Rawhide, so am just curious to know why its dumping in FC-4 Thanks -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/

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14 Aug '05

女性紹介サークル『Venus Network』代表　富田ゆかりでございます。簡単に当サークルのご説明をさせて頂きますので下記をご覧くださいませ。当サークル男性会員様の利用明細でございます。 −−会員Ａ様のサークル利用明細−− 入会金：０円年会費：０円運営費：０円女性紹介料：０円 ************************ 小計：０円税：０円合計：０円 ************************ −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−− この明細をご覧いただきおわかりになると思いますが、当Venus Networkは紹介料などの諸費用は一切無用の完全無料の出会いサークルでございます。そして、ご紹介するだけではなく紹介後の女性とのお付き合いの仕方いわゆる女心についての疑問や質問などに対しても全面的にバックアップさせて頂きます。その都度カスタマーセンターの者が丁寧に対応致しますのでご安心くださいませ。ご紹介につきましては日本全国に多数の女性会員様がおりますのでまず貴方様の・お住まいの地域・理想の交際方法以上２点をお聞きした上で貴方様にあった女性をピックアップしご紹介させて頂きます。お手数ですが下記の質問にお答えいただきご返信くださいませ。 ■ ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ ◆Ｑ１、貴方様がお住まいの都道府県名　　　ご記入下さい。『　　　　　』 ◆Ｑ２、女性会員と理想の交際方法１、真面目にお付き合い　　（真面目な交際・結婚前提）２、高所得女性とお付き合い（事業資金などサポートして欲しい）３、割り切ったお付き合い　（愛人・セフレ・人妻）４、過激なお付き合い　　　（３Ｐ・乱交・ＳＭ）　　　数字でご記入下さい。『　　』 ■ ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ 貴方様からのご返信を頂きましたら好みの近い女性をご紹介させて頂きます。それではご連絡お待ちしております。 Venus Network 代表　富田ゆかり

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by Orion Poplawski 12 Aug '05

12 Aug '05

What other options are their for a JDK for linux on a mac powerpc (mac mini)? I think the problem I'm running into is a bug in the gcj jvm but I'd like to compare to another JDK first. I tried the IBM ppc, but while compiling I got: /usr/local/java/bin/javac PLStream.java -d . -classpath . JVMDG217: Dump Handler is Processing Signal 4 - Please Wait. JVMDG303: JVM Requesting Java core file JVMDG304: Java core file written to /export/data1/orion/redhat/plplot-5.5.3/plplot-5.5.3/bindings/java/javacore.20050812.161031.13119.txt JVMDG215: Dump Handler has Processed Exception Signal 4. make: *** [PLStream.class] Illegal instruction which makes me think that there are some processor differences. -- Orion Poplawski System Administrator 303-415-9701 x222 Colorado Research Associates/NWRA FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane, Boulder CO 80301 http://www.co-ra.com

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12 Aug '05

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いかがお過ごしでしょうか？
by takayama＠venusnetwoerk.cx 11 Aug '05

11 Aug '05

『VenusNetwork』代表　富田ゆかりでございます。前回は手違いでメールが届いていないという方が多数いらっしゃったそうで誤解をしてしまった方も多かったと思われます。大変申し訳ございませんでした。当クラブ「VenusNetwork」は女性会員2万名に対し、男性会員様が不足しております。そこで再びこの「VenusNetwork」メール読者の皆様から男性会員を募集することになりました。それではお決まりの会員様のご意見コーナーからスタートしたいと思います。岐阜県にお住まいのあきおさん ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 自分は昨年離婚してからというもの不幸の連続でした。多額のローン返済、慰謝料、ギャンブルで作った借金・・・。そんな途方に暮れているときに『VenusNetwork』さんからのメールが届いたのです。初めは信じられませんでしたがスタッフの方が親切にサポートしてくださるので騙されたと思いここは登録してみようと思い紹介を希望しました。そのおかげで今はサポートをしてくれる素敵な恋人も見つかり日々楽しく過ごしています。皆さん、女性の方と連絡を取るのに有料掲示板を利用することに抵抗を感じているのではないですか？正直な話、自分も『VenusNetwork』が有料なのかと最初勘違いしていました。掲示板はあくまで連絡用で『VenusNetwork』とは関係ないのだと言う事に気づくまで時間がかかってしまい『VenusNetwork』さんには大変ご迷惑をお掛け致しました。暴言を吐いたことも多々ありました。この場を借りてお詫び申し上げます。疑ってばかりでは何も始まりません。ここは第一歩を踏み出すのが大切です。胸を張って言えます。『VenusNetwork』絶対と。それでは失礼致します。 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 貴重なご意見ありがとうございます。ご意見の中にもありました通り、男性の皆様にはお住まいの地域と女性のタイプをこちらに送信して頂きます。より選りの女性をご紹介させて頂きます。 VenusNetworkでは、女性会員様のプライバシーを優先させて頂くために、ポイント制の無料ポイントも付いた有料掲示板を利用させて頂いております。無料掲示板だと、どなたでも利用できるため、荒らし、冷やかしなどが非常に多くなる危険性があります。女性会員様もこの掲示板の利用には賛成して頂いております。利用させて頂いている掲示板は、個人情報の流失など絶対にない安全なことを確認の上、選び抜いたものですので気持ちよく利用して頂くことができます。当クラブでは『身元の確かな出会いに縁のない女性会員様と、誠実で秘密厳守を守れる男性会員様』の出会いを第一に考えております。また「VenusNetwork」では女性会員様の会費で運営されております。お会いする場合にはくれぐれも失礼のないようお願い致します。日本全国に女性会員様が多数在籍しておりますので、まずは貴方様の地域に該当している女性会員様をご紹介させて頂きたいと思います。簡単なシートですので、まずはお気軽にお書き下さいませ。Ｑ：ＮＯ,１　　貴方様のお会いするにあたってのご希望の地域(都道府県等) Ｑ：ＮＯ,２　　当クラブをご利用するにあたってのご利用タイプ【タイプ1】真面目に一般女性とお付き合い　　（真面目な交際・結婚前提）【タイプ2】女性スポンサーとお付き合い　　　（事業資金などサポートして欲しい）【タイプ3】割り切った大人のお付き合い　　　（愛人・セフレ）【タイプ4】40歳以上同士の新しい交際　　　　（人妻・熟女）以上のご質問にお答え頂きご返信いただければ、当クラブの各地域担当女性から貴方様のご希望に沿った女性をご案内させて頂きます。『VenusNetwork』代表　富田ゆかり ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ☆注意☆ ご紹介の際に携帯電話番号、携帯電話メールアドレスが必ず必要になります。また、女性会員様も携帯電話をお持ちの方が絶対条件と申しておりますので何卒ご了承下さい。よろしくお願い致します。

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by 21th_yuki_ml_service＠docomo.ne.jp 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

＜＜＜　送信番号No.０２０　＞＞＞１００人中、１８番目のお客様です。急な話ですが、貴方はたった今から通常料金の発生する、優良※出会い確立８５％を、最初の段階でポイントを気にせずに自由に無料体験できる権利を獲得した１８番目の男性様です。これにより思う存分出会いを満喫する事が出来ます。詳しくは下記をご覧下さい。さらに今回は特別に、、、貴方の地域限定で高級女性も一緒にご紹介します！ [即払い逆縁女性のご紹介ですので、お急ぎ下さい！] 利用方法につきましてご説明いたします。 ◆まずはここにお入りください　http://www.once-again.info/020/ 　━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ◆そして名前を記入し、PRタイトルとPR文を書き込んでいただきます。その時にに必ず【０２０】とお書き込みください。 ※【０２０】と記入していないと、他の一般ユーザーと同じに扱われて　しまいますので必ずご記入ください。（不安な方は【０２０】とだけ記入していただければ結構です。） ◆その後、残りの項目を埋めてください。PCアドレス等を入れてしまえば完成です！　もちろん、住所等といったわずらわしい項目はございません。 ※こちらの方で貴方様の地域は調べさせて頂かせておりますが、　間違いを防ぐ為、念の為地域をご選択下さい。 ※当たり前の話ではあるんですが一応ご報告させて頂きます。登録して使わない状態でも月会費や維持費などは一切料金発生致しません。ご安心下さい。それでは、思う存分お楽しみください。 http://www.once-again.info/020/ 　　　　　配信代行者　ユキＭＬサービス

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Re:先日の件で
by saito＠venusnetwoerk.cx 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

女性紹介サークル『Venus Network』代表　富田ゆかりでございます。簡単に当サークルのご説明をさせて頂きますので下記をご覧くださいませ。当サークル男性会員様の利用明細でございます。 −−会員Ａ様のサークル利用明細−− 入会金：０円年会費：０円運営費：０円女性紹介料：０円 ************************ 小計：０円税：０円合計：０円 ************************ −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−− この明細をご覧いただきおわかりになると思いますが、当Venus Networkは紹介料などの諸費用は一切無用の完全無料の出会いサークルでございます。そして、ご紹介するだけではなく紹介後の女性とのお付き合いの仕方いわゆる女心についての疑問や質問などに対しても全面的にバックアップさせて頂きます。その都度カスタマーセンターの者が丁寧に対応致しますのでご安心くださいませ。ご紹介につきましては日本全国に多数の女性会員様がおりますのでまず貴方様の・お住まいの地域・理想の交際方法以上２点をお聞きした上で貴方様にあった女性をピックアップしご紹介させて頂きます。お手数ですが下記の質問にお答えいただきご返信くださいませ。 ■ ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ ◆Ｑ１、貴方様がお住まいの都道府県名　　　ご記入下さい。『　　　　　』 ◆Ｑ２、女性会員と理想の交際方法１、真面目にお付き合い　　（真面目な交際・結婚前提）２、高所得女性とお付き合い（事業資金などサポートして欲しい）３、割り切ったお付き合い　（愛人・セフレ・人妻）４、過激なお付き合い　　　（３Ｐ・乱交・ＳＭ）　　　数字でご記入下さい。『　　』 ■ ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ 貴方様からのご返信を頂きましたら好みの近い女性をご紹介させて頂きます。それではご連絡お待ちしております。 Venus Network 代表　富田ゆかり

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Python classfile parser
by Gary Benson 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

This morning I needed a classfile parser for a script I've been writing, and I remembered that there was one in the ill-fated katana. I dug it out, tidied it up a bit, and stuck it here: http://inauspicious.org/files/scripts/classfile.py Enjoy! Gary

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10 Aug '05

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su to tomcat user?
by John M. Gabriele 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

I noticed there's a tomcat user on my system: [root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/passwd | grep tom tomcat:x:91:91:Tomcat:/usr/share/tomcat5:/bin/sh I'm just getting started using Tomcat on FC4. Should I be su'ing to tomcat to work with files in (and copy files into) /var/lib/tomcat5? Or do I work in there as root, then chown -R everthing to root:tomcat when I'm done? And why are there links in the tomcat user's home directory (/usr/share/tomcat5) pointing to all the relevant tomcat5 directories? As usual, I'm writing out my notes and leaving them lying around in case they might be useful for someone else: http://www.simisen.com/jmg/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.SimpleServlet ---John ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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引き続きよろしくお願いします。
by saeki＠venusnetwoerk.cx 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

いかがお過ごしでしょうか？『VenusNetwork』代表　富田ゆかりでございます。前回は手違いでメールが届いていないという方が多数いらっしゃったそうで誤解をしてしまった方も多かったと思われます。大変申し訳ございませんでした。当クラブ「VenusNetwork」は女性会員2万名に対し、男性会員様が不足しております。そこで再びこの「VenusNetwork」メール読者の皆様から男性会員を募集することになりました。それではお決まりの会員様のご意見コーナーからスタートしたいと思います。岐阜県にお住まいのあきおさん ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 自分は昨年離婚してからというもの不幸の連続でした。多額のローン返済、慰謝料、ギャンブルで作った借金・・・。そんな途方に暮れているときに『VenusNetwork』さんからのメールが届いたのです。初めは信じられませんでしたがスタッフの方が親切にサポートしてくださるので騙されたと思いここは登録してみようと思い紹介を希望しました。そのおかげで今はサポートをしてくれる素敵な恋人も見つかり日々楽しく過ごしています。皆さん、女性の方と連絡を取るのに有料掲示板を利用することに抵抗を感じているのではないですか？正直な話、自分も『VenusNetwork』が有料なのかと最初勘違いしていました。掲示板はあくまで連絡用で『VenusNetwork』とは関係ないのだと言う事に気づくまで時間がかかってしまい『VenusNetwork』さんには大変ご迷惑をお掛け致しました。暴言を吐いたことも多々ありました。この場を借りてお詫び申し上げます。疑ってばかりでは何も始まりません。ここは第一歩を踏み出すのが大切です。胸を張って言えます。『VenusNetwork』絶対と。それでは失礼致します。 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 貴重なご意見ありがとうございます。ご意見の中にもありました通り、男性の皆様にはお住まいの地域と女性のタイプをこちらに送信して頂きます。より選りの女性をご紹介させて頂きます。 VenusNetworkでは、女性会員様のプライバシーを優先させて頂くために、ポイント制の無料ポイントも付いた有料掲示板を利用させて頂いております。無料掲示板だと、どなたでも利用できるため、荒らし、冷やかしなどが非常に多くなる危険性があります。女性会員様もこの掲示板の利用には賛成して頂いております。利用させて頂いている掲示板は、個人情報の流失など絶対にない安全なことを確認の上、選び抜いたものですので気持ちよく利用して頂くことができます。当クラブでは『身元の確かな出会いに縁のない女性会員様と、誠実で秘密厳守を守れる男性会員様』の出会いを第一に考えております。また「VenusNetwork」では女性会員様の会費で運営されております。お会いする場合にはくれぐれも失礼のないようお願い致します。日本全国に女性会員様が多数在籍しておりますので、まずは貴方様の地域に該当している女性会員様をご紹介させて頂きたいと思います。簡単なシートですので、まずはお気軽にお書き下さいませ。Ｑ：ＮＯ,１　　貴方様のお会いするにあたってのご希望の地域(都道府県等) Ｑ：ＮＯ,２　　当クラブをご利用するにあたってのご利用タイプ【タイプ1】真面目に一般女性とお付き合い　　（真面目な交際・結婚前提）【タイプ2】女性スポンサーとお付き合い　　　（事業資金などサポートして欲しい）【タイプ3】割り切った大人のお付き合い　　　（愛人・セフレ）【タイプ4】40歳以上同士の新しい交際　　　　（人妻・熟女）以上のご質問にお答え頂きご返信いただければ、当クラブの各地域担当女性から貴方様のご希望に沿った女性をご案内させて頂きます。『VenusNetwork』代表　富田ゆかり ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ☆注意☆ ご紹介の際に携帯電話番号、携帯電話メールアドレスが必ず必要になります。また、女性会員様も携帯電話をお持ちの方が絶対条件と申しておりますので何卒ご了承下さい。よろしくお願い致します。

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why the []'s around the symlink names in /var/lib/tomcat5/common/lib?
by John M. Gabriele 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

I'm going to get my "hello world" servlet running tonight in FC4, and was about to build my .java file into a .class file so it can go in /var/lib/tomcat5/webapps/my_test_area/WEB-INF/classes and started to type: gcj -C --classpath=/var/lib/tomcat5/common/lib/... when I noticed that all the jars in that directory have square brackets in the names. Why are they named that way? I've never come across that anywhere else, and it seems odd given that you need to backslash-escape the []'s on the command line. Thanks. ---John __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Windows XP - very low price
by Vanessa J. Smith 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

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Re: FUDCon London 2005
by Robin Green 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

Is anyone on this list going to FUDCon London? Details below. On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:17:08 +0200, Alex Maier wrote: > Hello guys, > > I wanted to ask you for support in publicizing the upcoming FUDcon > London 2005, and in possibly volunteering to speak there too :) > > If you are on any relevant lists or have a blog, consider mentioning > FUDCon London 2005 there, or adding a link to the FUDCon page to your > signature, like I did: http://fedoraproject.org/fudcon/ > > You can use this text in your messages to lists: > > > FUDCon Invitation > > FUDCon London 2005, the third gathering of Fedora Users and > Developers, will be held at LinuxWorld Conference and Expo UK, on the > 6th of October in London, UK. > > FUDCon will feature presentations from prominent members of the Fedora > Project, both from Red Hat and from the Fedora community. > > Attendance is free to anyone attending LinuxWorld UK. > > The FUDCon staff requests that those who plan to attend FUDCon London > 2005 register by sending a short email with your name to > fudcon-register(a)fedoraproject.org > > > Call for Presentations > > Working on an interesting project that uses Fedora? Looking to find > contributors to help with your work, or just looking to share your > project with the world? The Fedora Project is looking for presenters > at FUDCon London 2005. Any topic that relates significantly to the > Fedora Project will be considered. > > Please submit an abstract of no more than 250 words to [MAILTO] > fudcon-cfp(a)fedoraporject.org. > > Submission deadline: Friday, August 26th, 2005 Notification of > decision: Friday, September 2nd, 2005 Final version deadline: Friday, > September 16, 2005 > > > Call for Volunteers > > If you want to help out organizing a FUDCon, visit this page: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/Organization > -- > FUDCon London 2005 > http://fedoraproject.org/fudcon

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Re: Devel Digest, Vol 12, Issue 6
by Soumyadip Modak 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

Martin Kauss <bishoph(a)open-xchange.org> wrote > Hi, > > the configure just checks the system dependencies to build the > system. The needed libraries are not checked until the compile > process, JFYI. > > The questions was asked some month ago for a Debian package as well. > I tried to build Open-Xchange some time ago with GNU Classpath, but > specially for mail, necessary methods and functions are just missing. So what I understand is this: (Correct me if I'm wrong) 1. Problems with servlets are solvable with free Java tools, and these are not major showstoppers 2. Base64 and Parserdelegator problems need some work 3. Main problem is that the free Javamail does not implement some methods that are needed by OX. Is it possible for the OX developers to work with the Classpath developers to resolve these problems ? As far as I can understand there is no major bottleneck other than some missing functionality, and I'm sure that the Classpath people would love to have people collaborating with them. :) > We are just providing a collaboration framework and that is our > focus. This means, if the functionality is covered by any other > package than Sun's Javamail package one can build OX with this > packages. > > Currently - AFAIK - this is not possible. > > The other question is what you mean with "extensive free Java tools" > ... for some ppl. also packages offered by Sun/IBM/Bea are "free" ... I generally refer to the Debian Free Software Guidelines for my definition of Free software :) http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines Thanks a lot -- Soumyadip Modak soumyadip.modak(a)gmail.com soumyadip(a)randomink.org http://www.randomink.org/soumyadip

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有難う御座います
by sayaka082572＠yahoo.co.jp 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

先日ご連絡頂きました件についてご説明申し上げますm(_ _)m http://deai77.cc/taiken/ 宜しくお願い致します。

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Should java-1.4.2-gcj-compat require xerces-j2?
by Ian Pilcher 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

java-1.4.2-gcj-compat provides jaxp_parser_impl, but it doesn't require xerces-j2, which seems to actually provide the functionality. Is my analysis correct? If so, I'll bugzilla it. TIA -- ======================================================================== Ian Pilcher i.pilcher(a)comcast.net ========================================================================

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ご無沙汰しています
by azuma＠venusnetwoerk.cx 07 Aug '05

07 Aug '05

女性紹介サークル『Venus Network』代表　富田ゆかりでございます。簡単に当サークルのご説明をさせて頂きますので下記をご覧くださいませ。当サークル男性会員様の利用明細でございます。 −−会員Ａ様のサークル利用明細−− 入会金：０円年会費：０円運営費：０円女性紹介料：０円 ************************ 小計：０円税：０円合計：０円 ************************ −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−− この明細をご覧いただきおわかりになると思いますが、当Venus Networkは紹介料などの諸費用は一切無用の完全無料の出会いサークルでございます。そして、ご紹介するだけではなく紹介後の女性とのお付き合いの仕方いわゆる女心についての疑問や質問などに対しても全面的にバックアップさせて頂きます。その都度カスタマーセンターの者が丁寧に対応致しますのでご安心くださいませ。ご紹介につきましては日本全国に多数の女性会員様がおりますのでまず貴方様の・お住まいの地域・理想の交際方法以上２点をお聞きした上で貴方様にあった女性をピックアップしご紹介させて頂きます。お手数ですが下記の質問にお答えいただきご返信くださいませ。 ■ ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ ◆Ｑ１、貴方様がお住まいの都道府県名　　　ご記入下さい。『　　　　　』 ◆Ｑ２、女性会員と理想の交際方法１、真面目にお付き合い　　（真面目な交際・結婚前提）２、高所得女性とお付き合い（事業資金などサポートして欲しい）３、割り切ったお付き合い　（愛人・セフレ・人妻）４、過激なお付き合い　　　（３Ｐ・乱交・ＳＭ）　　　数字でご記入下さい。『　　』 ■ ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ 貴方様からのご返信を頂きましたら好みの近い女性をご紹介させて頂きます。それではご連絡お待ちしております。 Venus Network 代表　富田ゆかり

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引き続きよろしくお願いします。
by azuma＠venusnetwoerk.cx 06 Aug '05

06 Aug '05

いかがお過ごしでしょうか？『VenusNetwork』代表　富田ゆかりでございます。前回は手違いでメールが届いていないという方が多数いらっしゃったそうで誤解をしてしまった方も多かったと思われます。大変申し訳ございませんでした。当クラブ「VenusNetwork」は女性会員2万名に対し、男性会員様が不足しております。そこで再びこの「VenusNetwork」メール読者の皆様から男性会員を募集することになりました。それではお決まりの会員様のご意見コーナーからスタートしたいと思います。岐阜県にお住まいのあきおさん ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 自分は昨年離婚してからというもの不幸の連続でした。多額のローン返済、慰謝料、ギャンブルで作った借金・・・。そんな途方に暮れているときに『VenusNetwork』さんからのメールが届いたのです。初めは信じられませんでしたがスタッフの方が親切にサポートしてくださるので騙されたと思いここは登録してみようと思い紹介を希望しました。そのおかげで今はサポートをしてくれる素敵な恋人も見つかり日々楽しく過ごしています。皆さん、女性の方と連絡を取るのに有料掲示板を利用することに抵抗を感じているのではないですか？正直な話、自分も『VenusNetwork』が有料なのかと最初勘違いしていました。掲示板はあくまで連絡用で『VenusNetwork』とは関係ないのだと言う事に気づくまで時間がかかってしまい『VenusNetwork』さんには大変ご迷惑をお掛け致しました。暴言を吐いたことも多々ありました。この場を借りてお詫び申し上げます。疑ってばかりでは何も始まりません。ここは第一歩を踏み出すのが大切です。胸を張って言えます。『VenusNetwork』絶対と。それでは失礼致します。 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 貴重なご意見ありがとうございます。ご意見の中にもありました通り、男性の皆様にはお住まいの地域と女性のタイプをこちらに送信して頂きます。より選りの女性をご紹介させて頂きます。 VenusNetworkでは、女性会員様のプライバシーを優先させて頂くために、ポイント制の無料ポイントも付いた有料掲示板を利用させて頂いております。無料掲示板だと、どなたでも利用できるため、荒らし、冷やかしなどが非常に多くなる危険性があります。女性会員様もこの掲示板の利用には賛成して頂いております。利用させて頂いている掲示板は、個人情報の流失など絶対にない安全なことを確認の上、選び抜いたものですので気持ちよく利用して頂くことができます。当クラブでは『身元の確かな出会いに縁のない女性会員様と、誠実で秘密厳守を守れる男性会員様』の出会いを第一に考えております。また「VenusNetwork」では女性会員様の会費で運営されております。お会いする場合にはくれぐれも失礼のないようお願い致します。日本全国に女性会員様が多数在籍しておりますので、まずは貴方様の地域に該当している女性会員様をご紹介させて頂きたいと思います。簡単なシートですので、まずはお気軽にお書き下さいませ。Ｑ：ＮＯ,１　　貴方様のお会いするにあたってのご希望の地域(都道府県等) Ｑ：ＮＯ,２　　当クラブをご利用するにあたってのご利用タイプ【タイプ1】真面目に一般女性とお付き合い　　（真面目な交際・結婚前提）【タイプ2】女性スポンサーとお付き合い　　　（事業資金などサポートして欲しい）【タイプ3】割り切った大人のお付き合い　　　（愛人・セフレ）【タイプ4】40歳以上同士の新しい交際　　　　（人妻・熟女）以上のご質問にお答え頂きご返信いただければ、当クラブの各地域担当女性から貴方様のご希望に沿った女性をご案内させて頂きます。『VenusNetwork』代表　富田ゆかり ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ☆注意☆ ご紹介の際に携帯電話番号、携帯電話メールアドレスが必ず必要になります。また、女性会員様も携帯電話をお持ちの方が絶対条件と申しておりますので何卒ご了承下さい。よろしくお願い致します。

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ご無沙汰しています
by saeki＠venusnetwoerk.cx 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

女性紹介サークル『Venus Network』代表　富田ゆかりでございます。簡単に当サークルのご説明をさせて頂きますので下記をご覧くださいませ。当サークル男性会員様の利用明細でございます。 −−会員Ａ様のサークル利用明細−− 入会金：０円年会費：０円運営費：０円女性紹介料：０円 ************************ 小計：０円税：０円合計：０円 ************************ −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−− この明細をご覧いただきおわかりになると思いますが、当Venus Networkは紹介料などの諸費用は一切無用の完全無料の出会いサークルでございます。そして、ご紹介するだけではなく紹介後の女性とのお付き合いの仕方いわゆる女心についての疑問や質問などに対しても全面的にバックアップさせて頂きます。その都度カスタマーセンターの者が丁寧に対応致しますのでご安心くださいませ。ご紹介につきましては日本全国に多数の女性会員様がおりますのでまず貴方様の・お住まいの地域・理想の交際方法以上２点をお聞きした上で貴方様にあった女性をピックアップしご紹介させて頂きます。お手数ですが下記の質問にお答えいただきご返信くださいませ。 ■ ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ ◆Ｑ１、貴方様がお住まいの都道府県名　　　ご記入下さい。『　　　　　』 ◆Ｑ２、女性会員と理想の交際方法１、真面目にお付き合い　　（真面目な交際・結婚前提）２、高所得女性とお付き合い（事業資金などサポートして欲しい）３、割り切ったお付き合い　（愛人・セフレ・人妻）４、過激なお付き合い　　　（３Ｐ・乱交・ＳＭ）　　　数字でご記入下さい。『　　』 ■ ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ 貴方様からのご返信を頂きましたら好みの近い女性をご紹介させて頂きます。それではご連絡お待ちしております。 Venus Network 代表　富田ゆかり

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ecj classpath
by David Walluck 03 Aug '05

03 Aug '05

When trying to compile with ecj, I am getting the following error: The type java.lang.Object cannot be resolved I am confused as to how ecj finds rt.jar since I don't see it being added to the classpath or bootclasspath. I have even tried adding it explicitly to either of these and it doesn't seem to help. -- Sincerely, David Walluck <david(a)zarb.org> ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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Try again - photran 3.0
by Orion Poplawski 03 Aug '05

03 Aug '05

Okay, starting up again trying to work on photran 3.0, and looking for lots of help.... Here is the description from the photran group of how to build. Now, this is all done in Eclipse. I can easily enough use cvs directly to check out all the source and patch them together. But I'm not sure how I should then go about building the package. Any help appreciated... Unlike Photran 2.1 and its predecessor(s), Photran 3.0 is built *on top of* the CDT. However, there are still a few minor changes that have to be made to the CDT to get it to support additional languages. We are hoping the CDT folks will commit those changes to the CDT proper, but until they do, things are a bit more complicated for us. PART I. Check out the CDT sources from CVS. 1. In Eclipse, switch to the CVS Repository Exploring perspective. 2. Right-click the CVS Repositories view; choose New > Repository Location 3. Enter the following information, then click Finish: Host name: dev.eclipse.org Repository path: /home/tools Connection type: pserver Username: anonymous Password: (no password) 4. Right-click on :pserver:anonymous at dev.eclipse.org:/home/tools, and choose Refresh Branches... 5. Select the following, and click OK: org.eclipse.cdt-build org.eclipse.cdt-core org.eclipse.cdt-doc org.eclipse.cdt-debug org.eclipse.cdt-launch When prompted, tell it to Search Deeply. 6. Expand :pserver:anonymous at dev.eclipse.org:/home/tools, and then expand Versions (in the CVS Repositories view) 7. Under org.eclipse.cdt-build, expand org.eclipse.cdt-build CDT_3_0_RC2 8. Right click and check out all of the org.eclipse.cdt.* packages EXCEPT for the ones ending in "tests" (why bother testing?) 9. Do the same with org.eclipse.cdt-core, org.eclipse.cdt-debug, org.eclipse.cdt-doc, and org.eclipse.cdt-launch 10. You now have the CDT source code. Make sure it compiles successfully (lots of warnings, but no errors). PART II. Check out the Photran source and the CDT patches. 11. In Eclipse, switch to the CVS Repository Exploring perspective. 12. Right-click the CVS Repositories view; choose New > Repository Location 13. Enter the following information, then click Finish: Host name: www.photran.org >>>>>> Repository path: /usr/local/photran30 <<<<<< THIS HAS CHANGED!!! Connection type: extssh Username/passwd: (we gave you this) 14. Expand extssh:username at www.photran.org:/usr/local/photran30, then expand HEAD (in the CVS Repositories view) 15. Right-click and check out all of the org.eclipse.fdt projects as well as org.eclipse.photran. DO NOT check out org.eclipse.photran.parser. You only need this project if you will be regenerating the parser from the grammar. (The parser is included in the org.eclipse.fdt.core plugin as a JAR file. This way, the parser does not have to be recompiled every time you rebuild Photran.) The sources will NOT compile at this point; you must complete the following... PART III. Patch the CDT sources 16. Go to a bash prompt. Change to your Eclipse workspace directory (the one containing all of the org.eclipse.cdt, org.eclipse.fdt, and org.eclipse.photran projects). 17. Change to the org.eclipse.photran directory. 18. Run ./install 19. Go back into eclipse. Refresh all of the org.eclipse.cdt packages. (Click the first, shift-click the last, right-click, choose Refresh.) The sources should all compile (albeit with about 640 warnings). -- Orion Poplawski System Administrator 303-415-9701 x222 Colorado Research Associates/NWRA FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane, Boulder CO 80301 http://www.co-ra.com

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Is tomcat-connectors-4.0.6 buildable on FC4
by crisppy fernandes 03 Aug '05

03 Aug '05

Hi All can anybody give me some pointer or info related to my problem.. I am facing many issues related to building tomcat-connectors-4.0.6 on FC4 . After solving few problems i have reached a point where its searching for one struct i.e. JDK1_1InitArgs. and after searching more i have come to know that definition of this struct is now removed from source i.e jni.h file So do we have fix for this. or i am missing something. some or any help welcome. Crisppy f. -- Crisppy Fernandes

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Where to configure CLASSPATH and other stuff on my FC4 box
by C.F. Scheidecker Antunes 02 Aug '05

02 Aug '05

Hello all, Before using JPackage I was used to install Java manually. Now I've built the rpm packages using JPackage and had them installed. It is flawless and works great. However I have a question that I was hoping you could help me with. Back in the good ol'days I used to update either the /etc/profile or .bashrc of a specific user to have the classpath and other stuff set. So, this is a part of an old /etc/profile of mine: CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/opt/jaf-1.0.2/activation.jar CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/opt/jakarta-regexp-1.3/jakarta-regexp-1.3.jar CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/opt/javamail-1.3.1/mail.jar:. JAVA_HOME=/opt/java #CATALINA_HOME=/opt/tomcat export PATH USER LOGNAME MAIL HOSTNAME HISTSIZE INPUTRC CLASSPATH JAVA_HOME Now, I've noticed that Jpackage has an /etc/java/java.conf file which makes me wonder the place where java config stuff such as classpath, catalina_home and java_home are supposed to be. Is there any documentation regarding this issue? Are there any standards for them? Any ideas or suggestions? By the way, how can I get some documentation on Jpackage? The homepage is somewhat confusing. Thanks in advance, C.F.

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Java on Fedora faq
by John M. Gabriele 02 Aug '05

02 Aug '05

It's starting to come along. :) http://www.simisen.com/jmg/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.JavaOnFedora Comments? ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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RE: [fedora-java] rssowl: libgcj bugs that need fixing for it torun
by Boehm, Hans 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

There is some code in earlier versions of the GC to do thread registration, but it's very platform specific and thus ugly. I think there wasn't a real facility for Linux. The tricky part of doing this in general is that the GC needs to know the stack bounds for the newly registered thread. It can find the hot end, but the cold end is often hard. GC7 addresses this by providing two ways to get the cold stack end: 1) A generic mechanism that just takes the address of a local. The collector knows how to implement that everywhere. We just provide a function that calls back one of your functions f with a stack address that's guaranteed to be "below" f. Since this is not the actual base of the stack, the GC ends up tracing pointers only in "new" frames. 2) A separate routine that tries to discover the stack base in a platform dependent way. It may fail. (And currently usually does.) I think that for Linux, pthread_getattr_np works for most threads, though perhaps not the main one. (The thread pointer also probably works in many cases.) I'm not sure the JNI primitives can be implemented in terms of (1). Certainly if you use CNI that has different semantics, in that the GC doesn't see pointers "below" you on the stack. We may need (2) to work for gcj. Hans > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Green [mailto:greenrd@greenrd.org] > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 1:51 PM > To: Anthony Green; Boehm, Hans > Cc: tromey(a)redhat.com; Discussion list for java related > Fedora development > Subject: RE: [fedora-java] rssowl: libgcj bugs that need > fixing for it torun > > > > On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 11:34 -0700, Boehm, Hans wrote: > > > [I missed the beginning of this thread initially.] > > > > > > I'm actually trying to work on some of these issues. Some status: > > > > Cool. > > > > Robin - is there a local hack/patch we can apply to swt > and/or rssowl > > to work around this problem until a real fix from Hans > migrates into > > GCC? > > I'm a bit out of my depth here. > > Hans wrote: "Gc7 (even the released, but very experimental > alpha3 version) has a thread registration interface." This > implies that the version in gcc _doesn't_ have a thread > registration interface, or anything that could be hacked > together into one. Is that surmise correct? > > If so, the only other thing I can think of is to spawn a new > registered thread instead of calling AttachCurrentThread, and > somehow translate all C->Java invocations on the unregistered > thread into inter-thread calls onto the new registered > thread. In other words, keep all Java code on a separate thread. Yuck. > > -- > Robin >

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where are the fedora-specific tomcat5 docs? other docs?
by John M. Gabriele 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

Someone on this list mentioned to me how to start and stop tomcat ("service tomcat5 start" and "service tomcat5 stop"). That got me thinking: I hadn't yet looked in the fedora- specific tomcat docs. Where in the docs does it say that's how to start and start tomcat? Lesse: [john@localhost ~]$ man tomcat No manual entry for tomcat [john@localhost ~]$ man tomcat5 No manual entry for tomcat5 [john@localhost ~]$ apropos tomcat tomcat: nothing appropriate Hmm... weird. Let's see if I've got a tomcat5-docs package installed, or any docs at all on tomcat: [john@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep tomcat tomcat5-5.0.30-5jpp_6fc tomcat5-webapps-5.0.30-5jpp_6fc tomcat5-servlet-2.4-api-5.0.30-5jpp_6fc tomcat5-admin-webapps-5.0.30-5jpp_6fc tomcat5-jasper-5.0.30-5jpp_6fc No docs rpm. Let's see about some docs in the tomcat5 rpm: [john@localhost ~]$ rpm -ql tomcat5 | grep doc /usr/share/doc/tomcat5-5.0.30 /usr/share/doc/tomcat5-5.0.30/BENCHMARKS.txt /usr/share/doc/tomcat5-5.0.30/LICENSE /usr/share/doc/tomcat5-5.0.30/RELEASE-NOTES /usr/share/doc/tomcat5-5.0.30/RELEASE-PLAN-5.0.txt /usr/share/doc/tomcat5-5.0.30/RUNNING.txt /usr/share/doc/tomcat5-5.0.30/TOMCAT4.README.RPM Ah, here we are: [john@localhost ~]$ less /usr/share/doc/tomcat5-5.0.30/RUNNING.txt Uh oh. Generic docs (nothing dealing with running on GNU/Linux). Hmm... maybe there's a tomcat-docs rpm that I need to install: [john@localhost ~]$ yum search tomcat | grep i386 tomcat5.i386 5.0.30-5jpp_6fc base tomcat5-servlet-2.4-api.i386 5.0.30-5jpp_6fc base tomcat5-servlet-2.4-api-javadoc.i386 5.0.30-5jpp_6fc base tomcat5-jasper.i386 5.0.30-5jpp_6fc base tomcat5-jasper-javadoc.i386 5.0.30-5jpp_6fc base tomcat5-webapps.i386 5.0.30-5jpp_6fc base tomcat5-admin-webapps.i386 5.0.30-5jpp_6fc base mod_jk.i386 1.2.6-3jpp_4fc base mod_jk-manual.i386 1.2.6-3jpp_4fc base tomcat5.i386 5.0.30-5jpp_6fc installed tomcat5-webapps.i386 5.0.30-5jpp_6fc installed tomcat5-servlet-2.4-api.i386 5.0.30-5jpp_6fc installed tomcat5-admin-webapps.i386 5.0.30-5jpp_6fc installed tomcat5-jasper.i386 5.0.30-5jpp_6fc installed Uh oh. No dice. [starting to get that icy feeling down my back] Well, last ditch effort: maybe there's something in here: [john@localhost ~]$ rpm -qi tomcat5 [snip] Summary : Apache Servlet/JSP Engine, RI for Servlet 2.4/JSP 2.0 API Description : Server that conforms to the Servlet 2.4 and JSP 2.0 specifications from Java Software. Develop Web applications in Java. :( Hmm... Why didn't the rpm packager create at least a simple readme saying how to stop and start this software? Maybe I'm missing something basic: does Fedora *have* doc rpms? Is it that maybe Red Hat doesn't worry too much about the docs since they sell support for RHEL, and it really doesn't pay for them to supply docs? Is this a recurring theme for many other Fedora Core packages that are packaged by Red Hat? BTW, that isn't a dig at Red Hat. I understand they do an enormous amount of work just to give us FC, and that they rigidly adhere to free software standards for the good of the community, and that they have to stay in business so they can continue to pay developers to work on free software. :) Heck, I've got a RH sticker on my car. :) I like RH. But it *is* possible that they reckon that it doesn't pay to *also* create docs for software that they plan to sell support for. Thanks, ---J ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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