eclipse for EPEL7

[Orion Poplawski]

Is there any interest in building eclipse for EPEL7?

[Christopher]

Eclipse is already packaged in RHEL7 / CentOS 7. What would be the added
value?

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On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Orion Poplawski 
wrote:
> Is there any interest in building eclipse for EPEL7?
>
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[Orion Poplawski]

On 11/19/2014 01:58 PM, Christopher wrote:
> Eclipse is already packaged in RHEL7 / CentOS 7. What would be the added value?

Ah, part of the developer toolset.  Which I can't build against for EPEL7,  hmm.

[Mikolaj Izdebski]

On 11/19/2014 10:09 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> On 11/19/2014 01:58 PM, Christopher wrote:
> > Eclipse is already packaged in RHEL7 / CentOS 7. What would be the added value?
>
> Ah, part of the developer toolset.  Which I can't build against for EPEL7,  hmm.

Eclipse is now part of DTS.

There is community effort to rebuild DTS in Copr and make it available
on softwarecollections.org:

https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/rhscl/devtoolset-3-el7/

Currently packages in this Copr fail to build, but I can provide some
hints how DTS can be built.

First, you need to add four additional packages to buildroot. These
packages can be taken from Fedora. They are build-time dependencies of
DTS and are not needed during runtime. These packages are: decentxml,
tycho, tycho-extras and xml-maven-plugin.

Secondly, there was an important bug in javapackages-tools preventing
SCL from working correctly, so make sure you are using
javapackages-tools >= 3.4.1-6.el7_0 (from RHEL 7.0.z).
See: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014-1055.html

[Orion Poplawski]

On 11/20/2014 12:26 AM, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> On 11/19/2014 10:09 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> > On 11/19/2014 01:58 PM, Christopher wrote:
> > > Eclipse is already packaged in RHEL7 / CentOS 7. What would be the added value?
> >
> > Ah, part of the developer toolset.  Which I can't build against for EPEL7,  hmm.
>
> Eclipse is now part of DTS.
>
> There is community effort to rebuild DTS in Copr and make it available
> on softwarecollections.org:
> https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/rhscl/devtoolset-3-el7/
>
> Currently packages in this Copr fail to build, but I can provide some
> hints how DTS can be built.
>
> First, you need to add four additional packages to buildroot. These
> packages can be taken from Fedora. They are build-time dependencies of
> DTS and are not needed during runtime. These packages are: decentxml,
> tycho, tycho-extras and xml-maven-plugin.

How can they practically be taken from Fedora for use in a EPEL7 copr?

I would think we would need versions of these packages built in EPEL7.

[Roland Grunberg]

> > First, you need to add four additional packages to buildroot. These
> > packages can be taken from Fedora. They are build-time dependencies of
> > DTS and are not needed during runtime. These packages are: decentxml,
> > tycho, tycho-extras and xml-maven-plugin.
>
> How can they practically be taken from Fedora for use in a EPEL7 copr?
>
> I would think we would need versions of these packages built in EPEL7.

I thought Mikolaj might be referring to importing them from Fedora
since they're noarch (and assuming most path macros are the same ?) but
you'd still need to make some changes + rebuild to get Tycho resolving
from the software collection environment as well.

There was also a bug [1] filed about this, so now that there's more
interest, I could look at what would be needed to do this.

Cheers,

[Mikolaj Izdebski]

On 11/20/2014 10:32 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> On 11/20/2014 12:26 AM, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> > On 11/19/2014 10:09 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> > > On 11/19/2014 01:58 PM, Christopher wrote:
> > > > Eclipse is already packaged in RHEL7 / CentOS 7. What would be the added value?
> > >
> > > Ah, part of the developer toolset.  Which I can't build against for EPEL7,  hmm.
> >
> > Eclipse is now part of DTS.
> >
> > There is community effort to rebuild DTS in Copr and make it available
> > on softwarecollections.org:
> > https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/rhscl/devtoolset-3-el7/
> >
> > Currently packages in this Copr fail to build, but I can provide some
> > hints how DTS can be built.
> >
> > First, you need to add four additional packages to buildroot. These
> > packages can be taken from Fedora. They are build-time dependencies of
> > DTS and are not needed during runtime. These packages are: decentxml,
> > tycho, tycho-extras and xml-maven-plugin.
>
> How can they practically be taken from Fedora for use in a EPEL7 copr?

You can take RPMs from Fedora, copy them to some directory, run
createrepo_c on it, upload the resulting YUM repo somewhere (like
fedorapeople.org) and add repo link to extra repos in Copr.
> I would think we would need versions of these packages built in EPEL7.

That shouldn't be needed.

[Orion Poplawski]

On 11/20/2014 09:43 PM, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> On 11/20/2014 10:32 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> > On 11/20/2014 12:26 AM, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> > > Eclipse is now part of DTS.
> > >
> > > There is community effort to rebuild DTS in Copr and make it available
> > > on softwarecollections.org:
> > >  https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/rhscl/devtoolset-3-el7/
> > >
> > > Currently packages in this Copr fail to build, but I can provide some
> > > hints how DTS can be built.
> > >
> > > First, you need to add four additional packages to buildroot. These
> > > packages can be taken from Fedora. They are build-time dependencies of
> > > DTS and are not needed during runtime. These packages are: decentxml,
> > > tycho, tycho-extras and xml-maven-plugin.
> >
> > How can they practically be taken from Fedora for use in a EPEL7 copr?
>
> You can take RPMs from Fedora, copy them to some directory, run
> createrepo_c on it, upload the resulting YUM repo somewhere (like
> fedorapeople.org) and add repo link to extra repos in Copr.

Okay, that should work.  But we should have a common infrastructure that 
everyone who needs to build these things could build off of.    This 
just feels a bit too cobbled together to me.  Of course, sometimes I 
feel that way about this whole SCL thing in the first place.
> > I would think we would need versions of these packages built in EPEL7.
>
> That shouldn't be needed.

But it would provide this common base in a well respected repository.