get svnkit back to life?

[Ismael Olea]

Hi:

I've just discovered svnkit is a dead package at rawhide. Being a
dependency for OmegaT 2.6.* I wonder about the reasons to be deprecated.
Anybody can give me any hint?

[Aleksandar Kurtakov]

I've been the maintainer of svnkit for years but upstream started to use gradle which is the most broken by design buildsystem when one considers packagers needs - download everything (including gradle itself!!!), no standard way of doing anything and so on. I kept an old svnkit version alive for sometime but I gave up when even the old version can't be compiled due to incompatibility with latest subversion-javahl. I can't convince myself that it makes sense to neither work on old svnkit to compile with latest subversion-javahl nor touching anything gradle related. Best approach for me is someone interested to rewrite svnkit buildsystem using something normal(ant, maven, pure make, even autotools).

Alexander Kurtakov
Red Hat Eclipse team

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ismael Olea" 
> To: "Discussion list for java related Fedora development" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:10:45 PM
> Subject: [fedora-java] get svnkit back to life?
>
> Hi:
>
> I've just discovered svnkit is a dead package at rawhide. Being a
> dependency for OmegaT 2.6.* I wonder about the reasons to be
> deprecated. Anybody can give me any hint?
>
> --
>
> Ismael Olea
>
> http://olea.org/diario/
>
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> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/java-devel

[Ismael Olea]

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
> Best approach for me is someone interested to rewrite svnkit buildsystem
> using something normal(ant, maven, pure make, even autotools).

hum, how complex do you think it could be, from trivial to nightmare (using
ant or make)?

[Aleksandar Kurtakov]

Depends on what you want just svnkit and svnkit-cli from http://svn.svnkit.com/repos/svnkit/tags/1.7.5.v1/ should be trivial. svnkit-osgi might be a bit more difficult.

Alexander Kurtakov
Red Hat Eclipse team

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ismael Olea" 
> To: "Aleksandar Kurtakov" 
> Cc: "Discussion list for java related Fedora development" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:51:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [fedora-java] get svnkit back to life?
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov <
> [e-mail] > wrote:
>
> Best approach for me is someone interested to rewrite svnkit
> buildsystem using something normal(ant, maven, pure make, even
> autotools).
>
> hum, how complex do you think it could be, from trivial to nightmare
> (using ant or make)?
>
> --
>
> Ismael Olea
>
> http://olea.org/diario/

[Ismael Olea]

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
> Depends on what you want just svnkit and svnkit-cli from
> http://svn.svnkit.com/repos/svnkit/tags/1.7.5.v1/ should be trivial.
> svnkit-osgi might be a bit more difficult.

I'll try the trivial parts :-)

[Ismael Olea]

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Ismael Olea  wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
> > Depends on what you want just svnkit and svnkit-cli from
> > http://svn.svnkit.com/repos/svnkit/tags/1.7.5.v1/ should be trivial.
> > svnkit-osgi might be a bit more difficult.

Ok, here they are:  http://olea.org/tmp/omegat-fedora-feature/

As you can check I needed to update sqljet too, which suffers the same
gradle pains, and has to package sequence which is not included into svnkit
anymore.

Packages are not 100% finished (hopefully will need just some rpmlint love)
and I feel insecure about the ant building I made so if someone
familiarized with this tools can review them would be useful.

I guess sequence-library should pass the new package process without matter
of having been included into svnkit till now.

ps: Being informative, I'm planing to propose a Fedora 19 feature «OmegaT
suite» including this works and three other plugins to be packaged, all of
them java based.

[Aleksandar Kurtakov]

Cool, as long as they work for you - they are good, if someone finds something he needs to open a bug :).
And yes sequence has to go through review.

Alexander Kurtakov
Red Hat Eclipse team

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ismael Olea" 
> To: "Aleksandar Kurtakov" 
> Cc: "Discussion list for java related Fedora development" 
> Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:26:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [fedora-java] get svnkit back to life?
>
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Ismael Olea < [e-mail] >
> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Aleksandar Kurtakov <
> [e-mail] > wrote:
>
> Depends on what you want just svnkit and svnkit-cli from
> http://svn.svnkit.com/repos/svnkit/tags/1.7.5.v1/ should be trivial.
> svnkit-osgi might be a bit more difficult.
>
> Ok, here they are: http://olea.org/tmp/omegat-fedora-feature/
>
> As you can check I needed to update sqljet too, which suffers the
> same gradle pains, and has to package sequence which is not included
> into svnkit anymore.
>
> Packages are not 100% finished (hopefully will need just some rpmlint
> love) and I feel insecure about the ant building I made so if
> someone familiarized with this tools can review them would be
> useful.
>
> I guess sequence-library should pass the new package process without
> matter of having been included into svnkit till now.
>
> ps: Being informative, I'm planing to propose a Fedora 19 feature
> «OmegaT suite» including this works and three other plugins to be
> packaged, all of them java based. --
>
> Ismael Olea
>
> http://olea.org/diario/

[Mat Booth]

On 27 September 2012 08:32, Aleksandar Kurtakov  wrote:
> I've been the maintainer of svnkit for years but upstream started to use gradle which is the most broken by design buildsystem when one considers packagers needs - download everything (including gradle itself!!!), no standard way of doing anything and so on. I kept an old svnkit version alive for sometime but I gave up when even the old version can't be compiled due to incompatibility with latest subversion-javahl. I can't convince myself that it makes sense to neither work on old svnkit to compile with latest subversion-javahl nor touching anything gradle related. Best approach for me is someone interested to rewrite svnkit buildsystem using something normal(ant, maven, pure make, even autotools).

Or patch OmegaT to use subversion-javahl instead, I wonder if that
would be easier.
> Alexander Kurtakov
> Red Hat Eclipse team
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ismael Olea" 
> > To: "Discussion list for java related Fedora development" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:10:45 PM
> > Subject: [fedora-java] get svnkit back to life?
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > I've just discovered svnkit is a dead package at rawhide. Being a
> > dependency for OmegaT 2.6.* I wonder about the reasons to be
> > deprecated. Anybody can give me any hint?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ismael Olea
> >
> > http://olea.org/diario/
> >
> > --
> > java-devel mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/java-devel
>
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> [e-mail]
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[Ismael Olea]

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:

Hi Aleksandar:

I've been the maintainer of svnkit for years but upstream started to use
> gradle

Since sequence-library, a new dep for updated svnkit, is now accepted I
need to ask you if you are interested in maintain svnkit again. As promised
I've made the update without the gradle damnware[1]. How do you see it?

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873748

[Aleksandar Kurtakov]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ismael Olea" 
> To: "Aleksandar Kurtakov" 
> Cc: "Discussion list for java related Fedora development" 
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:28:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [fedora-java] get svnkit back to life?
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov <
> [e-mail] > wrote:
>
> Hi Aleksandar:
>
> I've been the maintainer of svnkit for years but upstream started to
> use gradle
>
> Since sequence-library, a new dep for updated svnkit, is now accepted
> I need to ask you if you are interested in maintain svnkit again. As
> promised I've made the update without the gradle damnware[1]. How do
> you see it?

Hi Ismael,

My interest in svnkit was only for subclipse and I'm not sure whether this version will have all the OSGi stuff in. Additionally I don't have the time to maintain it so please do it yourself. I'll be happy to stay co-maintainer in case I find the time to do what/if needed to make usable for subclipse again.

Alexander Kurtakov
Red Hat Eclipse team
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873748
>
> --
>
> Ismael Olea
>
> http://olea.org/diario/

[Ismael Olea]

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
> I'll be happy to stay co-maintainer in case I find the time to do what/if
> needed to make usable for subclipse again.

I'll accept to maintain it if you co-maintain, at least as a backup, both
svnkit and sequence-library, deal? :-)

Sincerelly I'll don't expect almost not other activity on sequence-library
other than fixing some bug related with svnkit.

[Aleksandar Kurtakov]

Fine by me :)
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ismael Olea" 
> To: "Aleksandar Kurtakov" 
> Cc: "Discussion list for java related Fedora development" 
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 11:31:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [fedora-java] get svnkit back to life?
>
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov <
> [e-mail] > wrote:
>
> I'll be happy to stay co-maintainer in case I find the time to do
> what/if needed to make usable for subclipse again.
>
> I'll accept to maintain it if you co-maintain, at least as a backup,
> both svnkit and sequence-library, deal? :-)
>
> Sincerelly I'll don't expect almost not other activity on
> sequence-library other than fixing some bug related with svnkit.
> \

Fine by me, I even requested commit on sequence-library. Have you submitted svnkit for review? I think we have to go through the procedure again.

Alexander Kurtakov
Red Hat Eclipse team
> --
>
> Ismael Olea
>
> http://olea.org/diario/

[Ismael Olea]

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov
wrote:
> Fine by me,

great!
> I even requested commit on sequence-library.

I think I've granted you all rights
> Have you submitted svnkit for review? I think we have to go through the
> procedure again.

Now it is: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=877403

I've been waiting until sequence-library and the sqljet patch got accepted