FeatureEclipse33 Status

[Andrew Overholt]

Hi,

Here's the status of the Fedora 8 feature of updating the Eclipse stack
to the 3.3 (Europa) base [1].  I've CC'd all of the maintainers.  Please
reply with answers where you can.

SDK (Ben Konrath)
- largely done
- working through a build-id issue
- needs jetty5 review and inclusion (bug #202334)
- need to investigate tweaking memory limits in eclipse.ini if IcedTea
gets into F8

Mylyn (Andrew Overholt)
- awaiting CVS rename
- otherwise good to go

EMF (Andrew Overholt)
- would require a *tonne* of changes:  probably multiple new SRPMs, lots
of Provides and Obsoletes
- since nothing depends upon it, I propose we drop it from Fedora 8
- anyone object?  care to take it over?

GEF (Andrew Overholt)
- since nothing depends upon it, I propose we drop it from Fedora 8
- see last comment under EMF :)

ChangeLog (Jeff Johnston)
- mostly complete (I think)
- Jeff?

CDT & autotools (Jeff Johnston)
- ready AFAIK
- Jeff?

Subclipse (Robert Marcano)
- ready, right, Robert?

PyDev (Igor Foox)
- Igor:  can you update to latest version that works with 3.3?  If not,
can you orphan it?  Ben says he can take it over if you don't have time.
- would be nice to get Mylyn integration in when we update

sdl-nls, nlspackager (Andrew Overholt)
- I'm going to remove these since there are no translations for 3.3
upstream

checkstyle (Rob Myers)
- things are good to go, right, Rob?

quickrex (Alphonse Van Assche)
- things work with 3.3, right, Alphonse?

phpeclipse (Brandon Holbrook)
- do things work with 3.3, Brandon?

specfile editor (Alphonse Van Assche ... yes, I'm perhaps jumping the
gun a bit here ;)
- are we good to get this in by test2, Alphonse?

Thanks,

Andrew

[1]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FeatureEclipse33

[alcapcom]

Andrew Overholt a écrit :
>  quickrex (Alphonse Van Assche)
>  - things work with 3.3, right, Alphonse? 
Yes, I have tested it with the eclipse
version in rawhide and it work 
like expect.

>  specfile editor (Alphonse Van Assche ... yes, I'm perhaps jumping
> the
>  gun a bit here ;)
>  - are we good to get this in by test2, Alphonse? 
:) I think, I'm waiting the
update of the changelog plugin (2.4.1 or so) 
because of namespaces incompatibility between the current version 
(2.3.4) and the specfile editor.

Btw, I have just finished packaging Remote System Explorer (RSE) 
plugins, I think that there isn't many work to do on it to be able to 
get it right for test2.

Cheers,
Alphonse

[Andrew Overholt]

On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 21:27 +0200, Alphonse Van Assche wrote:
>  Andrew Overholt a écrit :
>  > quickrex (Alphonse Van Assche)
>  > - things work with 3.3, right, Alphonse?
>  Yes, I have tested it with the eclipse version in rawhide and it work 
>  like expect. 
Great, thanks.

>  > specfile editor (Alphonse Van Assche ... yes, I'm perhaps
> jumping the
>  > gun a bit here ;)
>  > - are we good to get this in by test2, Alphonse?
>  :) I think, I'm waiting the update of the changelog plugin (2.4.1 or so) 
>  because of namespaces incompatibility between the current version 
>  (2.3.4) and the specfile editor. 
Yeah, I'm trying to get that sorted out.  You should see it hit rawhide
in the next day or so.

>  Btw, I have just finished packaging Remote System Explorer (RSE) 
>  plugins, I think that there isn't many work to do on it to be able to 
>  get it right for test2. 
Sweet.

Andrew

[Andrew Overholt]

On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 21:27 +0200, Alphonse Van Assche wrote:
>  :) I think, I'm waiting the update of the changelog plugin (2.4.1
> or
>  so) because of namespaces incompatibility between the current version 
>  (2.3.4) and the specfile editor.  
2.5.1 should hit rawhide tomorrow.

Andrew

[alcapcom]

Andrew Overholt a écrit :
>  On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 21:27 +0200, Alphonse Van Assche wrote:
> > :) I think, I'm waiting the update of the changelog plugin (2.4.1 or
> > so) because of namespaces incompatibility between the current version 
> > (2.3.4) and the specfile editor. 
>  
>  2.5.1 should hit rawhide tomorrow. 
Nice, I have just put the specfile editor package for review[1], it only 
need some code of rpmlint 0.81, I will send a mail to Ville to ask him 
if he will include this part of code in the rpmlint rawhide package.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=253434

Cheers,
Alphonse

[Andrew Overholt]

* Alphonse Van Assche <alcapcom(a)gmail.com&gt; [2007-08-19 09:44]:
>  Andrew Overholt a écrit :
>  >On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 21:27 +0200, Alphonse Van Assche wrote:
>  >>:) I think, I'm waiting the update of the changelog plugin (2.4.1 or
>  >>so) because of namespaces incompatibility between the current version 
>  >>(2.3.4) and the specfile editor. 
>  >
>  >2.5.1 should hit rawhide tomorrow.
>  
>  Nice, I have just put the specfile editor package for review[1], it only 
>  need some code of rpmlint 0.81, I will send a mail to Ville to ask him 
>  if he will include this part of code in the rpmlint rawhide package.
>  
>  [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=253434 
I'll try to get to this ASAP.

Andrew

[David Walluck]

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Andrew Overholt wrote:
>  ChangeLog (Jeff Johnston)
>  - mostly complete (I think)
>  - Jeff? 
I couldn't build changelog. I get the following:

BUILD FAILED
/usr/share/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.pde.build/scripts/build.xml:22:
The following error occurred while executing this line:
/usr/share/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.pde.build/scripts/build.xml:37:
The following error occurred while executing this line:
/usr/share/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.pde.build_3.3.0.v20070612/templates/headless-build/customTargets.xml:8:
Cannot find
/home/david/rpm/SPECS/eclipse-changelog/BUILD/eclipse-changelog-2.3.4/allElements.xml
imported from
/usr/share/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.pde.build_3.3.0.v20070612/templates/headless-build/customTargets.xml

I did not have time to investigate further.

I can't build pydev either, but these seem to be some more serious
issues with the code itself, particularly
org/python/pydev/core/structure/FastStack.java.

>  checkstyle (Rob Myers)
>  - things are good to go, right, Rob? 
This isn't very recent. I did an updated spec for Mandriva. It is
version 4.3.2 instead of 4.0.1. You can find it here:
http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/eclipse-checks...

It appears to work well. The only this is as far as the build, it
doesn't use `buildscripts/copy-platform', but the original Fedora spec
has this same problem. In general, that script is not consistently used
across all plugin packages in Fedora.

I have also packaged findbugs 1.2.1.20070531 if anyone at Fedora is
interested.

Good luck with FC8!

- --
Sincerely,

David Walluck
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[Andrew Overholt]

On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 16:32 -0400, David Walluck wrote:
>  I couldn't build changelog. I get the following:
>  
>  BUILD FAILED
>  /usr/share/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.pde.build/scripts/build.xml:22:
>  The following error occurred while executing this line:
>  /usr/share/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.pde.build/scripts/build.xml:37:
>  The following error occurred while executing this line:
>
> /usr/share/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.pde.build_3.3.0.v20070612/templates/headless-build/customTargets.xml:8:
>  Cannot find
>  /home/david/rpm/SPECS/eclipse-changelog/BUILD/eclipse-changelog-2.3.4/allElements.xml
>  imported from
>
> /usr/share/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.pde.build_3.3.0.v20070612/templates/headless-build/customTargets.xml
Hmm.  I'm trying to update to 2.5.0 and I'm running into other problems.
I'll hopefully not hit this particular issue but thanks for keeping me
up to date anyway.

>  I can't build pydev either, but these seem to be some more
> serious
>  issues with the code itself, particularly
>  org/python/pydev/core/structure/FastStack.java. 
Ugh.  I think Ben said he'd take a look at this when he gets back to
work on Monday.  Thanks.

>  > checkstyle (Rob Myers)
>  > - things are good to go, right, Rob?
>  
>  This isn't very recent. I did an updated spec for Mandriva. It is
>  version 4.3.2 instead of 4.0.1. You can find it here:
>  http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/eclipse-checks...
>  
>  It appears to work well. The only this is as far as the build, it
>  doesn't use `buildscripts/copy-platform', but the original Fedora spec
>  has this same problem. In general, that script is not consistently used
>  across all plugin packages in Fedora. 
Can you point to any specific examples?  That script is a stupid hack
anyway, but unless we get some time to fix things upstream, it's not
going to go away :(  See:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EclipseHelpWanted

>  I have also packaged findbugs 1.2.1.20070531 if anyone at Fedora is
>  interested. 
Cool.  Anyone?

>  Good luck with FC8! 
Thanks, David :)

Andrew

[alcapcom]

Andrew Overholt a écrit :
>  On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 16:32 -0400, David Walluck wrote:
> > I have also packaged findbugs 1.2.1.20070531 if anyone at Fedora is
> > interested.
>  
>  Cool.  Anyone?
>   
I can take it.

David can you say me where can I find these specfiles?

[Frode Petersen]

Andrew Overholt wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  Here's the status of the Fedora 8 feature of updating the Eclipse stack
>  to the 3.3 (Europa) base [1].  I've CC'd all of the maintainers.  Please
>  reply with answers where you can. 
snip...
>  EMF (Andrew Overholt)
>  - would require a *tonne* of changes:  probably multiple new SRPMs, lots
>  of Provides and Obsoletes
>  - since nothing depends upon it, I propose we drop it from Fedora 8
>  - anyone object?  care to take it over?
>  
>  GEF (Andrew Overholt)
>  - since nothing depends upon it, I propose we drop it from Fedora 8
>  - see last comment under EMF :) 
Hi. I just want to notify you about one program that uses these: Omondo 
EclipseUML ( http://www.omondo.com ). There is a free 'community' 
release as well as a commercial one.

You might want to look into if and how the changes will affect users of 
3rd party software.

I don't know whether these changes would create any problems at all, I 
just want to make sure that this is considered.


Regards
Frode Petersen

[Andrew Overholt]

On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 22:01 +0200, Frode Petersen wrote:
>  Hi. I just want to notify you about one program that uses these:
>  Omondo EclipseUML ( http://www.omondo.com ). There is a free
>  'community' release as well as a commercial one.
>  
>  You might want to look into if and how the changes will affect users
>  of 3rd party software. 
They won't AFAIK as people can still always use the update site for
whatever to install into their home directory.

>  I don't know whether these changes would create any problems at
> all, I
>  just want to make sure that this is considered.  
Thanks for keeping us aware :)

Andrew

[Nicolas Mailhot]

Le Mer 15 août 2007 22:01, Frode Petersen a écrit :
>  Andrew Overholt wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Here's the status of the Fedora 8 feature of updating the Eclipse
> > stack
> > to the 3.3 (Europa) base [1].  I've CC'd all of the maintainers.
> > Please
> > reply with answers where you can.
>
>  snip...
> > EMF (Andrew Overholt)
> > - would require a *tonne* of changes:  probably multiple new SRPMs,
> > lots
> > of Provides and Obsoletes
> > - since nothing depends upon it, I propose we drop it from Fedora 8
> > - anyone object?  care to take it over?
> >
> > GEF (Andrew Overholt)
> > - since nothing depends upon it, I propose we drop it from Fedora 8
> > - see last comment under EMF :)
>
>  Hi. I just want to notify you about one program that uses these:
>  Omondo
>  EclipseUML ( http://www.omondo.com ). There is a free 'community'
>  release as well as a commercial one. 
A lot of people are likely to use eclipse for XML/WSDL editing, and
IIRC the WTP requires GEF & EMF

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot

[Andrew Overholt]

On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 15:06 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>  A lot of people are likely to use eclipse for XML/WSDL editing, and
>  IIRC the WTP requires GEF & EMF 
Yep, and they can just install them from the update site if we don't
have packages of them.

Andrew

[Jeff Johnston]

Andrew Overholt wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  Here's the status of the Fedora 8 feature of updating the Eclipse stack
>  to the 3.3 (Europa) base [1].  I've CC'd all of the maintainers.  Please
>  reply with answers where you can.
>  
>  
>  ChangeLog (Jeff Johnston)
>  - mostly complete (I think)
>  - Jeff? 
Missing removed files support (major usability issue).  The entry seems 
to stop when there are strange files (e.g. gifs or binary files it knows 
nothing about) (major bug). New files should just put: New file comment 
beside them (minor nit).  If all of these are fixed, then I would say it 
is complete.

>  
>  CDT & autotools (Jeff Johnston)
>  - ready AFAIK
>  - Jeff? 
Ready enough.  Would like to add template support for the autoconf 
editor.  Would like to add sample wizards for new autotools executable 
project, new autotools library project, possibly a few more...