On 1 November 2014 18:09, Christopher <ctubbsii-fedora(a)apache.org> wrote:
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurtako(a)redhat.com>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Christopher" <ctubbsii-fedora(a)apache.org>
> > To: "Sudhir Khanger" <ml(a)sudhirkhanger.com>
> > Cc: "Fedora Java Development List"
> > Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 6:43:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [fedora-java] Eclipse Luna on Fedora 21 and JDK 8
> > On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Sudhir Khanger < ml(a)sudhirkhanger.com
> > wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 5:06 AM, Christopher <
> > wrote:
> > > to warrant the pursuit of -target 1.7 in its build
> > Would it have caused technical problems to have included both 1.7 or
> > 1.8 as targets?
> > Either I'm not understanding you, or you're not understanding the
> > F21 could have built as -target 1.7 and run on the provided
> > also could have run under a user-specified Java 7 JVM
> > weren't any bootstrap classpath problems that would have prevented
> > build, which there are... but it may not matter for Eclipse
> > dependencies). I can't imagine there would be any reason to build
> > for both, unless Eclipse itself has some internal
> > it from building projects using Java 8, when itself was
> > The fact that there isn't a 1.7 JDK to build against
> > the bootstrap classpath problem, is not a technical problem,
> > policy that prevented OpenJDK7 from being packaged alongside
> > F21.
> Well, it's neither technical nor policy problem - it's resources
problem. There is no policy stating that there can be only OpenJDK8. As
soon as people join in with the ongoing maintenance of both upstream and
downstream OpenJDK 7 the problem would be solved.
The explanation I've seen multiple times now is that there was a decision
explicitly exclude OpenJDK7 from F21, because Oracle has Java 7
scheduled for EOL during the window of time where F21 is expected to be
supported. That sounds very much like policy.
That is sounds like policy is purely co-incidental. There really is no-one
stepping up to maintain it or backport security fixes after Java 7 is EOL.