Fwd: Re: [Se] Using Satellite for Subscription Management
by Bryan Kearney
May be worth reaching out here to see if the new UIs will meet the
customers conerns.
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Subject: Re: [Se] Using Satellite for Subscription Management
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 08:58:58 +0200
From: Herve Lemaitre <hlemaitr(a)redhat.com>
Organization: Red Hat
To: Brian Likosar <liko(a)redhat.com>
CC: se-list <se(a)redhat.com>, sme-sysmgt <sme-sysmgt(a)redhat.com>
On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 15:39 -0500, Brian Likosar wrote:
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> I've had two customers this week ask me about leveraging Satellite for
> Subscription Management. How do you answer that concern? The big
> challenge is the fact that our virtualization pricing ends up providing
> them with seemingly more subscriptions than they actually have (a sub to
> an IFL of RHEL for System z, for example, gives them 1000 subs in the
> summary page).
>
> All thoughts/suggestions are appreciated.
hi Brian
I have 2 large customers doing that ... with pain for them and for
me :-)
1st of all , I made them aware that Satellite is a technical tool
mainly, so not designed for administrative management of subscription.
It gives a technical translation of what a subscription is.
I brief them to continue to use a mix of RHN information (now CSP) and
Satellite information to get a view on how subs are used.
in CSP they know what they bought and related timeframe.
in Satellite,
- 1st, I explained how translation between subs and sat entitlement is
or was done :
RHEL AP -> cluster entitlement
-> unlimited VM = 100 ent's / 1 + 100 ent's (phy/flex)
RHEL -> 4 entitlements / 1 + 4 entitlements (py/flex)
What is flex (if there)
RHEL for VMware -> 4 entitlements
RHEL AP for VMware -> 10 entitlements
....
I have an explanation how all this appears in Sat certificate. It is
relatively easy to indeed derive "Satellite Entitlements" from
"Purchased usbscription" ..... but the reverse calculation "satellite
entitlements" -> "purchased subscription" is probably impossible to
do ...
- use spacewalk-report inventory to get the list of machines with all
info
- use spacewalk-report entitlements to see consumed / free entitlments
Then it depends on the case and what the customer wants to have as
information.
In the old RHEL subscription model (rhel /rhel AP based), I wrote a
script to analyze the content of the CSV file generated by the inventory
report , and derive , based on geography information (present in the sat
orgs) , the number of AS/ES type of RHEL.
| FR_ | BE_ | DE_ | UK_ | CZ_ | NADC | ...
|AS ES |AS ES |AS ES |AS ES |AS ES |AS ES |
|16 384 |52 469 |138 405 |45 348 |0 11 |90 234 |
|6 15 |2 13 |0 5 |9 41 |0 0 |0 3 |rhel3
|0 1 |0 1 |0 0 |0 4 |0 0 |3 1 |prov module
|0 1 |0 0 |0 0 |0 4 |0 0 |0 1 |proxies
Total RHEL3 | 94
Total Prov modules | 11
| Total Proxies | 7
In the new business model, I am more at a loss - as I know we are not
able to easily differentiate 1-4-Unlimit Virtual guests easily from phy
instances (when on vmware) nor match the nber of physical sockets. So
very hard to match the purchased stuff vs the used/deployed stuff....
Fragmented information is all what Satellite can give (entitlement
consumption with report entitlements option.).
There are 2 BZs related to enhance our report capabilities with regards
to the new model .
and right also, one of the customer is pissed off by the lack of
administrative readable view for a non technical guy , in satellite
webui ...
hth
Herve'
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