so… question.. can a system be subscribed to multiple katello servers? negative jomara: is that on the books somewhere? im not sure, the tool very visibly complains though the reason why i ask: it seems like katello would be an ideal system to push vendors that are concerned about subscriber management (like IBM, symantec, etc) to offer up their RPMs through a self-managed system theres only one spot for configuration, and if you try to re-register it will give you an error saying its already registesred :( xaeth: you can definitely setup multiple content sources in pulp through a single katello install well that doesn't really fit :( not that i'd be implementing it, i just wanted to be able to harass them to ;) ...other conversation... going back to my multi-master discussion…. does that seem unreasonable? I'm of the opinion its one of the best ways to push vendors into getting onboard with distributing good rpms what do you mean you say multi-master? for the content? ya so scenario: I'm a customer. My server stack runs the following software components: RHEL, IBM Informix database server, and Symantec Netbackup I already register my system to RH for RHEL updates * jrist listens (reads) intently but for the other two I'm stuck consuming the bits in whatever meh way they give me Informix is starting to come in an RPM, but you have to download the installer, run it, and then i have to grab the rpm from the tmp dir As a proprietary vendor, I don't like just making RPMs available xaeth: yeah, that was always the intent with Katello I think anyway ability to do multiple products and OSs but if I (software vendor) could stand up katello and allow customer to register to it _as well as_ Red Hat's then I ensure that only (reasonable expectation, better than you just downloading from my webui) registered systems are running it (i realize that yumdownloader would still work) ya… i assumed that was the point of katello, but i'm talking multiple primary katello systems run by different authorities I think someone is already using candlepin to distribute licenses can't recall the product/project though you can do it all within one katello, xaeth ideally, anyway s/can do it/should potentially be able to do it/ :) I visited theory today so still talking like I'm there jrist: if I am IBM or Netbackup why would i let Red Hat provide my bits outside of my control with their primary katello instance? who said redhat? you can set it up yourself katello is built to be standalone in your own DC xaeth: well, you could setup your own katello, and then consume the repositories published by other people bam what he said ha whether they published them via apache, pulp or katello yeah or others, as we move along your assuming that joe customer wants to have to run katello themselves cab files from that company in Redmond xaeth: that's not necessarily an assumption xaeth: but also just an OPTION a cloud provider say... Rackspace or something could set up a katello and do multi-org where one org is Joe Customer there are lots of possibilities right xaeth: so you are saying, you just have systems and you want to subscribe your systems to multiple other peoples Katello's to get various bits of content? ehelms: yes which i'd imagine is the case for lots of people (such as the X number that only use RHN not spacewalk) err RHNs what's to stop a company from standing up katello (say... IBM or Informix) themselves and setting up repos nothing but say System Engine completely deprecates RHN and I am registered to RHSE, and I want to register to IBM's informix repositories that require a candlepin manage subscription…. I can't attach to both thus requiring me to either a) not do what i want b) toggle between them c)run my own katello all of which == pita maybe i'm just on crack, but it seems like a valid usecase to me xaeth: tbh, I don't know that this a scenario we had previously considered thats funny.. cause it was the primary use case i pegged katello for from day one but then… i've spent the last few years yelling at my vendors to give me better consumable RPMs xaeth: and its not actually katello that prevents this, but more subscription manager i c that makes sense i don't think there's anything in katello that would prevent it hrmph… *copies discussion to clipboard to paste bomb #candlepin* j/k heh hehe yeah sounds like a RFE to me :)