May 2009 - kde - Fedora mailing-lists

Panel widgets "stop"
by Emmett Culley 21 May '09

21 May '09

After that last three or four updates to KDE on Fedora 10, including the very latest, the Application Launcher would suddenly stop working. That is, it would no longer pop up when I clicked on the panel icon. At first it seemed to be a random thing and I could always get it to work by deleting it from the panel and re-adding the widget. Then I noticed that this would happen to other panel widgets, including the calendar pop up and the Device launcher. Today I saw the pattern. If I click on the any of the panel widgets that pop up when clicked, then click on a different desktop in the pager, the pop up disappears never to show up again until deleted from the panel and re-added. Anybody else seeing this? Emmett

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Menu misunderstanding
by Arthur Pemberton 21 May '09

21 May '09

What is the expected difference between applications in the 'Administration' section and those in the 'System' section? -- Fedora 10 (www.pembo13.com)

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arrrgh
by Charles Zeitler 20 May '09

20 May '09

On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:27 AM, charles zeitler <cfzeitler(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:38 AM, charles zeitler <cfzeitler(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:56 AM, charles zeitler <cfzeitler(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> i have : >>> >>> problems with loose cabling... >> >>> >>> charles zeitler >> >> > > > > -- > > Do What Thou Wilt > Shall Be > The Whole of > The Law > > -Aleister Crowley > > > > > > > -- Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole of The Law -Aleister Crowley

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Auto-hide panel sticking open
by Patrick O'Callaghan 20 May '09

20 May '09

To maximize screen real-estate I like to use the auto-hide option for the KDE Panel, but lately when I click on the Info icon in the Panel (e.g. to show progress in copying a large file), the Panel sticks in the visible state until I close the progress indicator. IIRC it didn't used to do this, i.e. the progress bar widget just floated independantly of the Panel itself. Is this a design change or a bug? Or am I just imagining that it used to be different? This is fully updated F11pre, kdebase-workspace-libs-4.2.3-4.fc11.x86_64 poc

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SQLite dependency for Qt 4.5
by Sonic 20 May '09

20 May '09

Hi I was trying to build the Qt 4.5 RPM from Koji on RHEL 5.3, and half way through, the compilation failed. From the error messages, I guessed it had something to do with SQLite. I then built (again from Koji) SQLite 3.6.12 and updated the RHEL machine. Now Qt compilation worked fine. When I installed Qt (& the devel package) on another machine, Qt Assistant failed to start. Updating SQLite on that machine fixed that too. So I guess we need a sufficiently new version of SQLite as a dependency (& BuildRequires) for Qt 4.5. regards, Syam

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Are debuginfo rpms available ?
by Christophe Delaere 20 May '09

20 May '09

Hi, I recently reported (to kde) a crash when using fish within kmail to save attachments. Unfortunately, the stack trace is not that useful. In such a case, some kdelibs-debuginfo would be useful. Would it be possible to provide such builds? Maybe it's already there and I missed it? I am using kde-testing on fedora10. My bug report is there: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192594 Thanks, Christophe.

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Annoying new behavior (sleep)
by Neal Becker 20 May '09

20 May '09

I have set to sleep when lid closed. This used to work. Since recent updates (kdebase-4.2.3-1.fc10.x86_64), when the screen is locked, shuting the lid does nothing. I need to unlock the screen first, then it works.

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KDE-SIG weekly report (21/2009)
by Jaroslav Reznik 20 May '09

20 May '09

This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Weekly KDE Summary = Week: 21/2009 Time: 2009-05-19 16:00 UTC Meeting page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-05-19 Meeting log: http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/df/KDE-SIG-2009-05-19.txt ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Participants = - JaroslavReznik - KevinKofler - LukasTinkl - RexDieter - StevenParrish - ThanNgo - BalajiGurudass ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Agenda = * kde-4.2.3 update status, ready for stable? * kde-4.2.85 (4.3beta1) status * Qt 4.5.1 status/blockers * PolicyKit 1 (as it hits rawhide soon) = Summary = o kde-4.2.85 (4.3beta1) status * than is going to remove conditionals Fedora<10 as we won't ship 4.3 for F-9 (eol soon) * kdebinding ** if 4.2.85 doesn't build, 4.2.86 will be build instead ** other packages will stay 4.2.85 (we'd need to relax the BRs) * we're not planning to build snapshots regurally * ltinkl is working on kde-l10n (rdieter is discriminated) o kde-4.2.3 update status, ready for stable * Fedora 11 ** 4.2.3 as 0-day update to avoid possible problems as it's not well tested * Fedora 9 & 10 ** queued for stable o Qt 4.5.1 status/blockers [1] * qt 4.5.1 stays in updates-testing for one(two) more week(s) * rssnow is hacked but still not ok, new amarok-2.1ish builds coming soon, ksysguard thing is cosmetic and mostly harmless * we have to watch qt git repo commits o PolicyKit 1 (as it hits rawhide soon) * PolicyKit 1 will be soon in Fedora * ltinkl & jreznik are going to cooperate PolicyKit 1 efforts * PolicyKit 1 should be blocked until proper support in KDE * old PolicyKit stays in Fedora for some time but it's not supported anymore ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Next Meeting = http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-05-26 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Links = [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497658

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KDE 4.2.3 queued for stable
by Kevin Kofler 19 May '09

19 May '09

Hi, FYI, KDE 4.2.3 is now queued for the stable updates for F9, F10 and F11 (both the core 4.2.3 packages and the extragear ones). You can queue the kde-plasma-stasks and kde-plasma-yawp builds for stable now. Expect 4.2.3 to hit the stable updates in the next updates push. (Qt 4.5.1 still has issues we're looking into, so it will stay in testing for some more time, but that one didn't get or need a buildroot override, so that's not a problem for dependent packages.) Kevin Kofler

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Kirta and filters
by Arthur Pemberton 19 May '09

19 May '09

When one installs Krita via one of Fedora's package management tools, how are they to know that they need koffice-filters to make any real use of Krita? -- Fedora 10 (www.pembo13.com)

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amarok-2.1 post-beta2 in kde-redhat/testing
by Rex Dieter 19 May '09

19 May '09

Since amarok-2.0.x has issues with qt-4.5.1, and 2.1 final will be landing soon, I got amarok upstream blessing for us to pursue and test some amarok-2.1 builds for updates(testing) purposes. So, these will be landing in kde-redhat/testing asap, and in fedora updates-testing over the next week or so. caveat: F-10 builds are currently lacking libgpod support, I've been in contact with libgpod maintainer, and the required libgpod-0.7.0 will be coming soon to F-10. This is a blocker for amarok-2.1 to land in F-10 stable updates. -- Rex

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kdebase-workspace-4.2.3-3, works for me
by Rex Dieter 18 May '09

18 May '09

I can confirm that the latest change to kdebase-workspace, * Thu May 14 2009 Kevin Kofler ... - 4.2.3-3 - check for network availability through Solid/NM in the weather dataengine works as advertised. Thanks Kevin. -- Rex

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Strange usb-mount behaviour
by Anne Wilson 18 May '09

18 May '09

From the usb-notifier widget, I'm offered options, one of which is to open in dolphin. Suddenly I'm finding that it doesn't do that - it opens in konqueror. After my holiday there has been a very large update, so I've no clue what might have caused this change. Ideas? Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase

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kde-4.3, PolicyKit-kde packaging
by Rex Dieter 17 May '09

17 May '09

Looks like PolicyKit-kde bits are in kdebase-workspace now. Any thoughts or opinions on whether to roll this into kdebase-workspace proper (with Obsoletes/Provides), or to continue to make it as a separate (sub)package? I did the former as a first try in kdebase-workspace-4.2.85-1 packaging. -- Rex

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processes running in wrong directory...
by Charles Zeitler 17 May '09

17 May '09

i have : fedora ..c.. klauncher fedora ..c.. kded4 fedora ..c.. gam_server fedora ..c.. knotify4 fedora ..c.. nepomukserver fedora ..c.. plasma fedora ..c.. kio_file fedora ..c.. kaccess fedora ..c.. krunner fedora ..c.. nm-applet fedora ..c.. imsettings-appl fedora ..c.. kerneloops-appl fedora ..c.. python fedora ..c.. klipper fedora ..c.. knetworkmanager running in : /dev/mapper/vg_gamma-lv_docs ( ~/Documents ) could this explain lockups in the taskbar/ missing taskbar ( intermittent ) ? could this be responsible for filesystem errors in /dev/mapper/vg_gamma-lv_docs ? and could kernel disabling of irq 18 be related ? ( RAID bus controller, Multimedia audio controller ) any elucidations and/or advice to correct this much appreciated. charles zeitler Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole of The Law -Aleister Crowley

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Reply won't quote
by Anne Wilson 15 May '09

15 May '09

A strange problem has started, in that I don't get a quote when I reply. The reply to all/reply to list template says %REM="Default reply all template%- On %ODATEEN %OTIMELONGEN %OFROMNAME wrote: %QUOTE %CURSOR What else could have gone wrong with this? Anne

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review help, kdelibs-experimental
by Rex Dieter 15 May '09

15 May '09

Fedora contributors, anyone willing to help out with a simple pkg review? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500902 It's really a single library, reviewing should be trivial. Thanks! -- Rex

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Dolphin "cd"s in konsole history are annoying. Split consoles for split views ?
by linux guy 14 May '09

14 May '09

I love the way that Dolphin can now be set up so that it has a console at the bottom that follows the directories as you browse. I often browse somewhere and then do command line commands and then do something with a GUI and then... back and forth. Its an excellent way to work. Whoever thought of tying Dophin and a console together deserves a medal. However, I find one part of it to be annoying... whenever you change a directory in Dolphin, it records a cd command in the console history. I really like how the console tracks the directory changes that occur in Dolphin. It saves me a lot of time, not having to issue cds in the console to keep it in the directory that I am looking at in Dolphin. However, it might be me, but I don't want to see the Dolphin cds in the console history. The only commands that I want to see in the console history are the ones that I enter myself manually. If I want to note what directory I am working in in the console history, I'll issue a pwd command. I think it would be really nice if there was a turn off the logging of Dolphin cds in the console history. Is there a way to do this ? Another issue is how there is only one console tied to the Dolphin app and yet Dolphin can have a split screen with 2 different directory views. Unfortunately, every time you jump between views another cd gets issued in the console. It would be nice if a split view Dolphin session had 2 consoles. It would be really nice if those sessions shared the same history so that if you typed a command in one, you could just put the cursor in the other console, go into the history and repeat the same command in the other console. I love open source and Fedora and KDE. Thanks for listening.

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Amarok update path on kde-redhat
by Mary Ellen Foster 13 May '09

13 May '09

I'm running Fedora 11 (preview/rawhide/whatever) on x86_64, with all kde-redhat repositories enabled -- including the i386 ones because of multilib issues. I've done all of the other (non-amarok) updates today, and amarok is still being annoying ... Right now, I get the following if I attempt to "yum update" (edited to show the relevant bits): ================================================================================ Package Arch Version Repository Size ================================================================================ Installing: amarok-utils i586 2.0.96-1.fc11 kde-i386-unstable 148 k replacing amarok-utilities.x86_64 2.0.90-2.fc11 Installing for dependencies: [ ... ] amarok-utilities i586 2.0.90-2.fc11 kde-i386-unstable 142 k [ ... ] If I disable the i386 repositories, I don't see any proposed updates, even after a "yum clean all". Is this a mirror issue? A multilib issue? What's the deal with amarok-util[itie]s? Thanks for any help, MEF -- Mary Ellen Foster -- http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ ICCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.

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KDE 4.2.3 update queued for testing
by Kevin Kofler 13 May '09

13 May '09

Hi, FYI, KDE 4.2.3 is now queued for updates-testing for F9, F10 and F11. You can track the update's status at: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kdelibs Kevin Kofler

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KDE-SIG weekly report (20/2009)
by Sebastian Vahl 13 May '09

13 May '09

This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Weekly KDE Summary = Week: 20/2009 Time: 2009-05-12 16:00 UTC Meeting page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-05-12 Meeting log: http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/df/KDE-SIG-2009-05-12.txt ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Participants = - JaroslavReznik - KevinKofler - LukasTinkl - RexDieter - SebastianVahl - StevenParrish ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Agenda = * Delta RPMS * F11 news: leonidas-kde-theme updates * KDE 4.2.3 update status * Qt 4.5.1 update status * KDE 4.2.85 status (F12 Rawhide) = Summary = o Delta RPMs: * kpackagekit in its current version supports delta-rpms provided by yum- presto. * So the usual huge KDE updates would benefit from the smaller delta-rpms if enabled by default. * The current release decision for Fedora 11 is to not install yum-presto by default. * We'll stick with this decision: It's too late in the release cycle to push it on the KDE live images. o leonidas-kde-theme update: * The final version of leonidas-kde-theme was built and tagged today. [1] * It matches the current leonidas-backgrounds (updated yesterday), adds two subpackages and re-enables labels. * The update should be tested by all available people. o KDE 4.2.3 update status: * KDE 4.2.3 is already available in updates-testing for F-9, F-10 and F-11. [2,3,4] * Extragear packages for KDE 4.2.3 were built and will be submitted for updates-testing soon. * An update for the weather dataengine in kdebase-workspace will be backported from KDE 4.3 if testing goes fine. o Qt 4.5.1 update status: * Tracker bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=Qt451 * Qt 4.5.1 is now in updates-testing for F-11 and F-10, F-9 will be added with the next push. [6,7,8] * Two regressions in Qt 4.5.0 are fixed by this update (texmaker, jabbim), but three new regressions appeared (rssnow plasmoid, ksysguard, Amarok 2.0). * The status of regressions vs. fixes will be evaluated in a week. * Two patches are worth considering a backport: - A possible fix for the rendering issues [9] - A fix for a leak of file descriptors in QTemporaryFile: [10] o Open discussion: * strigi-0.6.4-4.fc10 [11] will be pushed to stable although it was reported to not fix #496620 [12] completely: smb:/// apparently still crashes, but at least the crash when checking the properties of / was fixed. * Importing KDE 4.2.85 in F12 was started. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Next Meeting = http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-05-19 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Links = [1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=101866 [2] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2009-4763 [3] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-4786 [4] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-4808 [5] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=Qt451 [6] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-4813 [7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-4844 [8] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/qt-4.5.1-10.fc9 [9] http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/commit/2e3a5ea4434d19fbdb90996e71961f0791ea64… [10] http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/commit/42e2070925d012845db9cf85e597a17851a0dc… [11] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-3816 [12] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496620

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Why I'm using unstable repos
by Andrew Mason 12 May '09

12 May '09

Hi guys, I saw a post asking for people to let you know why we were using the unstable repos. I'm not sure why others are using it but for me it was because there were some features or problems which I found the current distributions KDE packages which I was hoping ( or were ) fixed in the newer packages. Initially it was because the plasma-networkmanager app , kopete and quassel were available. I don't have alot of ram in some of my machines so I didn't really want to run KDE 3 apps in kde4 as they can't take advantage of the libraries that are already loaded. I also saw it as a way to test kdevelop4.

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KAddressbook v.4.1 (KDE 4.2.2) in F-10
by Martin Kho 12 May '09

12 May '09

Hi, In KAddressbook I've some contacts that have more than one e-mail address. When I try to select one of these, I get a pop up box asking me to choose an e-mail address. After clicking the Ok-button the same pop up box reappears. Does anyone else have seen this? Can I disable this question somewhere? If I select more than one contact, all those messages are getting annoying. Thanks, Martin Kho

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Two kcrashes in 5 mins
by Arthur Pemberton 10 May '09

10 May '09

Got two Kcrashes today just starting up KDE for the day. I'm sending here in case someone else can make use of them. I can't reproduce the crashes myself however. -- Fedora 10 (www.pembo13.com)

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Is KDE 4.2.3 ready for updates-testing?
by Kevin Kofler 09 May '09

09 May '09

Hi, can we queue 4.2.3 for testing now? Or should we wait for the extragear stuff? (Can we get that completed?) Anything else missing? Kevin Kofler

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