kde March 2010

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Translations
by Tomas Straupis 04 Mar '10

04 Mar '10

Hello What is the procedure with translations of applications and documentation? If translations have been submitted to svn they should appear in next KDE release or are there some additional obstacles? I was doing some documentation translations in Lithuanian language but all docs (handbooks) are still in English... Translations have been submitted to trunk before branching KDE4.4. $ env | grep LANG LANG=lt_LT.UTF-8 # rpm -qa | grep Lithuanian kde-l10n-Lithuanian-4.4.0-1.fc12.noarch Thank you -- Tomas Straupis

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Re: Harmless KDE feature upgrades - yeah right
by Jaroslav Reznik 04 Mar '10

04 Mar '10

On Thursday 04 March 2010 13:13:18 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 03/04/2010 05:13 PM, Juha Tuomala wrote: > > This is exactly kind off stuff I don't have time now to solve, > > since I need to work. If such upgrade would have been put to > > next coming release, I could have upgraded when I have time, > > some weekend - it would not interrupted my working and ruin my > > day. > > Yes and it does happen now and then that updates like these cause end > users some pain and while some users love to tinker and play with new > features others see it as a hindrance even if it is purely enhancement > with no regressions because even UI changes cause disruption in workflow > setting aside all the possibility of regressions and I dont believe that > Fedora has the right balance between innovation and stability (not > merely robustness but any change for that matter) at the moment (CentOS > is far removed and rawhide is far too bleeding edge) > > Whether it would be a separate backports repo or merely some more > conservativeness in our update stream needs to be discussed and the > current discussion has brought up very polarised opinions and at this > point it would be useful to discuss detailed proposals than continuously > repeating the same points in a circle > > For your specific case please file bug reports We (some KDE SIG people) are currently working on so called stability proposal [1]. That means one bigger update per release as KDE schedules are not in sync with Fedora releases. So this means - Fn release of Fedora is getting updates and users will get fresh software (rawhide is not an option), Fn-1 is considered as stable, without any "mayor" updates but it's still quite fresh so users don't have (are not forced) to switch to brand new release, probably breaking more than just update. One of reasons we can be now much more conservative is that KDE is now in very good shape and few releases ago we couldn't let users with for example 4.0, 4.1 releases. Now it's not so important to do big steps as changes are not so visible FKDESCo is going to vote probably on next meeting, Tuesday 09 14:00 UTC. So please, Fedora KDE users - comment these changes! We're working for you! CC'ing kde(a)lists.fpo. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Stability_Proposal Jaroslav > Rahul -- Jaroslav Řezník <jreznik(a)redhat.com> Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/

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Kget humour?
by Petrus de Calguarium 03 Mar '10

03 Mar '10

I was just downloading a large file with kget. I was cooking supper and 15-20 minutes later, when I got back to the computer, there was a kget message on the screen, roughly as follows: "You have a download in progress. Delete it and download again?" And below were buttons, 'yes', 'no' and 'cancel'. I pressed 'no' and my download is safe. Is that supposed to be funny or would it really have deleted a 1GB download for no reason whatsoever and downloaded it all over again?

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Too much debugging information in KDE
by Jeremy Sanders 03 Mar '10

03 Mar '10

Hi - With the new update to KDE, the applications appear to print much more debugging information to the console, most of which is useless to the user. This is a problem when trying to run applications from the command line (e.g. okular when using LaTeX) as simple operations on the KDE application spawn reams of debugging on the user's console. Is there some way of switching it off? I notice most of this goes to .xsession-errors anyway, so it doesn't seem worthwhile duplicating it all. Thanks Jeremy

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KFileDialog replacing QFileDialog
by Jeremy Sanders 03 Mar '10

03 Mar '10

I've filed a bug here listing problems when some part of the KDE/Qt system appears to be replacing QFileDialog (the Qt file dialog) with KFileDialog (the KDE file dialog) in my Qt/PyQt application: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570090 I've filed this under Qt, but maybe someone knows whether it is KDE doing this, and whether it is possible to turn off this (currently) buggy behaviour, at least for my application. Thanks Jeremy

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Active windows
by Jeremy Sanders 03 Mar '10

03 Mar '10

The active window "glow" is blue for the default Oxygen KDE style. This is the same colour as the default Fedora background. This is almost the only way you can see the active window, besides the title going slightly grey. The recent KDE 4.4 updates have made it very hard to see the active window. I've switched on "Draw separator between title bar and active window contents". This helps, but the effect is subtle. Outlining the active window title also helps, but is pretty ugly. I think the defaults should be changed if Fedora ships a blue background. Jeremy

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KDE 4.4, anyone got CPU scaling support?
by Chris Smart 03 Mar '10

03 Mar '10

Hi all, I've noticed that with a fresh Fedora install of KDE 4.4, PowerDevil is saying that my system does not support CPU scaling. However, I do have acpi_cpufreq, cpufreq_ondemand, etc loaded, and the cpufreq command works from the terminal (as root). So, before I log a bug, does anyone have a KDE 4.4 install where PowerDevil *does* report support for CPU scaling? System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Power Management -> Capabilities (check "scaling capability"). Thanks, Chris

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Konqueror and Gmail
by Anoop 03 Mar '10

03 Mar '10

Hi List, Can someone tell me how to make Konqueror work with Gmail? Thanks, Anoop

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KDE-SIG meeting report (09/2010)
by Jaroslav Reznik 02 Mar '10

02 Mar '10

This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Weekly KDE Summary = Week: 09/2010 Time: 2010-03-02 14:00 UTC Meeting page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2010-03-02 Meeting minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-03-02/kde- sig.2010-03-02-14.02.html Meeting log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-03-02/kde- sig.2010-03-02-14.02.log.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Participants = * JaroslavReznik * KevinKofler * LukasTinkl * RexDieter * StevenParrish * ThanNgo * ThomasJanssen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Agenda = * topics to discuss: o Talking Points o kde-4.4.1 status * kdeedu-math-cantor-R subpkg ? o Board SWG questions for Spins Owners o FUDCon_Toronto_KDE_F13_TODOs o Stability Proposal * recent bugs: o Bug 569132: Wacom tablet does not work in Qt = Summary = kde-4.4.1 status * ltinkl is updating CVS for F11/12/13 o builds can be started once kde tag is ready * kdeedu-math-cantor-R subpkg o R-core is big dependency (cca 64 MB), split is needed o kkofler will split it to kdeedu-math-cantor-R subpackage KDE Release marketing materials for Fedora 13 * superhero rrix has come up with [1] * shouldn't we focus more on Fedora KDE features? o kkofler opposes with Ubuntu example ;-) Board SWG questions for Spins Owners * we should reply o discuss it on kde@fpo ml * svahl is official maintainer of our spin but busy with new job FUDCon_Toronto_KDE_F13_TODOs [2] * do we want minimal requirements for applications we ship? * what in case of KDE default application not meeting them? * offenders - kpk, knm, kbt... * response needed, left for reconsideration next week Stability Proposal [3] * kkofler wants to wait for overall Fedora policy * what are the metrics for stable? deal-breakers bugs? * rdieter to start discussion on kde@fpo ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Next Meeting = http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2010-03-09 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Links = [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE/F13_Talking_Points [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rdieter/FUDCon_Toronto_KDE_F13_TODOs [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Stability_Proposal = Buglist = https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569132 -- Jaroslav Řezník <jreznik(a)redhat.com> Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/

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Re: KAddressbook, Nepomuk, etc
by Marko Vojinovic 02 Mar '10

02 Mar '10

On Tuesday 02 March 2010 02:53:14 pm Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'd really like to have a "database" for storing > information about contacts (as in an address book). > My base is Fedora/KDE. Yes, I would love such a thing too. Do you have one? :-) Seriously speaking, it could be used not only for contacts, but in general. > My requirements are: > > 1. The application should be web-based, > like CUPS, BackupPC, etc. This is crucial. If I could access the database over a web interface, that would be quite sufficient. Actually, what you want is basically a good and functional web-oriented GUI frontend for, say, mysql backend... > 2. There should be a simple interface with mobile phones. What do you mean by this? When you are accessing the database remotely (via the web interface), how do you plan to connect to a mobile phone? > 3. There should be a simple interface with KMail/KAddressBook. This should be something like "import contacts from the web" kind of option in KAddressBook. It's probably doable. Or, there could be an "export into kaddressbook-type file" button in the web interface, which is probably even easier to implement. Or a comma-separated-values file, which virtually any addressbook app can import. > 4. The program should be sufficiently flexible > to allow new fields (eg images) to be added. This is also crucial. I could really make use of a database with dynamic field configurations in tables. Or a sufficiently powerful web-interface which would instruct mysql backend to do all the hard work. > 5. The program should allow general information > eg about films or books to be stored. Even better, I would wish to be able to store an arbitrary file into a database field. Or have the field contain a symlink to the file. So I don't want to have _information_ about films and books in the database, but rather the actual films and books themselves. > 6. I'd like the program to interface with Windows Outlook > and similar Windows programs. Well, I don't need this one. And web-like access to data is platform- independent, so at least that part could work everywhere. > Currently OpenLDAP is the nearest I can get to this, > but I find it very cumbersome, > and there seems no simple GUI interface. Well, as I said above, the *only* thing that is actually needed is a powerful web GUI, for *any* database backend. Mysql, postgresql, openldap, a plain text file, whatever does the work. > As far as I can see, Nepomuk aims vaguely > at something like this, > but it seems too far from practical use to be of much value. > > I'm wondering if anyone has found a solution to this, > or indeed whether anyone shares my desire? Oh, if you ever find such a thing, do send me an e-mail with a link! It would make my life sooo much easier... :-) BTW, I would add the following requirements: 7. It should be able to handle multiple databases. I might have one for contacts, one for books, one for music, one for... , all in the same GUI. Or to be able to connect the GUI to this or that one dynamically. 8. It should be GPL, of course, and included in Fedora! :-) Best, :-) Marko

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scanstyle does nothing webkit/firefox
by Neal Becker 02 Mar '10

02 Mar '10

Lately, every time I start knode, I get a message box saying scanstyle does nothing webkit/firefox No idea what that's about.

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File a bug: what component?
by Martin Kho 02 Mar '10

02 Mar '10

Hi, When trying to configure yawp - kde-plasma-yawp-0.3.2-2.fc12.x86_64 - Plasma- Desktop crashed. To what component do I have to file a bug? kde-plasma-yawp or kdebase-workspace-4.4.0-7.fc12.x86_64? Thanks, Martin Kho

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Have I missed fix for 4.4 login problem?
by Dwight Paige 01 Mar '10

01 Mar '10

For me since upgrade to 4.4 [similar in openSuSE and Mandriva] when logging in I either have to hit enter really quick or login screen freezes. Autologin simply doesn't work. Oddly after login screen freezes I can select Shutdown then Cancel and it will login to the preselected user account. /etc.../kdmrc has been edited to autologin one specific user and same user with no pw [this being a one person box]. Should mention there are 3 user accounts in each distro. Autologin and login in general worked normally until upgrading to KDE 4.4 [same in SuSE and Mandriva]. I've been watching this list and don't recall seeing anything about this. Or did I miss it? Admittedly I don't work in front of a computer all day [printing pressman] and sometimes get busy and miss things... Though I have searched Fedora, Mandriva, and KDE forums and KDE bugzilla some what. -- Thanks, Dwight Paige If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.

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Turn Off Edge of Window Max-sizing?
by Richard Heck 01 Mar '10

01 Mar '10

Is there any way to turn off the "feature" where, when you move a window to the edge of the screen, it maximizes? rh

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kmail notifications empty
by Dj YB 01 Mar '10

01 Mar '10

hello, fc11, kde 4.4 after updating the notification look much better but they are empty... no text at all. any suggestions are welcome. thanks, YB.

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ktts broken?
by Michael Gapczynski 01 Mar '10

01 Mar '10

I think the issue that you're having with KTTS is due to the fact that you don't have a speaker for festival installed. This would result in no talkers listed like you described. I just reinstalled KTTS on KDE 4.4 and can confirm that it does work, but it didn't work until I installed a speaker for festival. I installed festival-rablpc16k for my speaker, there are a few others in Arch's extra repositories. My suggestion is to do a search for festival in fedora repos and install one of the speakers. I mentioned in the userbase page that you need to have a voice installed to use festival, but didn't provide enough details on this subject. I'll revise this to prevent other users from having difficulties in using KTTS. I'll see if I can get in contact with a developer to make a speaker for festival also a dependency for installing KTTS. I hope this resovles your issue. Michael

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fc11 layout indicator disapeared after update
by Dj YB 01 Mar '10

01 Mar '10

hello, I hope someone seen this before yesterday I updated about 200 packages and after reboot I noticed several things the keyboard layout indicator is not present even that the settings in "regional & language"=>"Keyboard layout" are enable and show both. another problem I suspect connected is when screensaver is running and I want to unlock the little window where I usually put my password in is simply gray square. hope that was somewhat describing my problem. if someone can guide me to a way to investigate and restore the keyboard layout appearing again I would be very happy. Thanks, YB.

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Re: Konqueror and Java
by Mark Bidewell 28 Feb '10

28 Feb '10

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Mark Bidewell <mbidewel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler(a)chello.at> wrote: >> Mark Bidewell wrote: >>> Is there any trick to using java with konqueror? It seems that it >>> doesn't load when I try to load test applets. >> >> You need to enable Java in the preferences, Konqueror doesn't use the >> Mozilla plugin for Java. I don't know whether pointing it to just "java" or >> "/usr/bin/java" will work (though I guess it will), >> "/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/java" (or lib64) definitely will. >> >> Kevin Kofler >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kde mailing list >> kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde >> New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org >> > > I ran some tests on: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml > -Sun Java does not load > -OpenJDK hangs on loading the applet. > > Thanks. > > -- > Mark Bidewell > http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell > I ran some tests on: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml -Sun Java does not load -OpenJDK hangs on loading the applet. Thanks. -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell

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