March 2010 - kde - Fedora mailing-lists

libgcal, akonadi-googledata?
by Neal Becker 20 Mar '10

20 Mar '10

Is there hope to sync with google? I saw this article: http://www.my-guides.net/en/content/view/178/26/ But it looks like fedora12 doesn't have libgcal or akonadi-googledata

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fedora-kde target audience, draft rfc
by Rex Dieter 20 Mar '10

20 Mar '10

We've got a draft of what we're considering as the target audience for what the fedora kde-sig produces. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/KDE_Target_Audience Comments? -- Rex

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kde bug reporting assistant broken?
by Neal Becker 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

OK, second time I tried to report a bug. It's not me. After putting a sentence explaining what I was doing before the crash, I get a dialog asking if I can tell some more. I choose no. Then my only choice is quit of save the information - not send it in. And, if I pick save, and then I see it means save to a file, and I cancel, the whole thing just quits. This is exactly what happened the last time. Really frustrating that I spent all the effort to download debuginfo, check dups, and it was a complete waste of time.

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Some changes with 4.4.0
by Orion Poplawski 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

This is a bit of a followup to discussion on fedora-devel. Here are some changes with 4.4.0 for one of my users that happened today: - Background went completely white - previously was the blue/grey background. This is just one of those annoying things that seem to happen fairly frequently with KDE updates. Doesn't take a whole lot of time to fix, but is still annoying. - Panel is partially black with very hard to read transparent icons on it. See http://www.cora.nwra.com/~orion/fedora/panel.png. Several users have gotten this. I seem to remember a bug on this, but can't find it now. Intel video (82G33/G31). This is pretty tough to live with. -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA/CoRA Division FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane orion(a)cora.nwra.com Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com

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klipper slow to respond
by Anne Wilson 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Since the advent of 4.4 klipper has been unresponsive for some 10-15 seconds when I create a new link, during which time I can't paste links. Am I right in thinking this is nepomuk related? For that matter, I find that these days I have to open klipper and select the newly created link before I can paste it. Am I stuck with this one, or is there some configuration setting that would go back to defaulting to the newest item? Anne -- KDE Community Working Group New to KDE Software? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org

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Konqueror bookmarks page opens on wrong display.
by linux guy 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

I updated to KDE4.4.1 this morning and rebooted. $ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Wed Mar 3 04:57:21 UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux $ rpm -q kdelibs kdelibs-4.4.1-1.fc12.i686 I am running a desktop spanning 2 displays. The first time I open my bookmarks via the menu item it opens on top of the Konqueror application in my main display, as it should. The next time(s) i open my bookmarks via the menu item it opens in the second display, which is not where Konqueror is running. Anyone else have this issue ? Thanks LG

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F-13 login panel on left
by Orion Poplawski 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Anyone know why the F-13 login panel on the left side of the screen? It seems very disorienting to me. -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA/CoRA Division FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane orion(a)cora.nwra.com Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com

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Status of KDE 4.4.1 ?
by linux guy 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Where is KDE 4.4.1 at ? Thanks LG

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Chromium browser unstable since last update
by Anne Wilson 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

I think someone else mentioned this, though I can't find it. Chromium browser had been very stable for me, but since I updated on Saturday it has become unstable, crashing without any obvious reason. I lost hours of work yesterday. Are any updates in the pipeline? Anne -- KDE Community Working Group New to KDE Software? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org

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KDE-SIG meeting report (11/2010)
by Jaroslav Reznik 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Weekly KDE Summary = Week: 11/2010 Time: 2010-03-16 14:00 UTC Meeting page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2010-03-16 Meeting minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-03-16/kde- sig.2010-03-16-13.58.html Meeting log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-03-16/kde- sig.2010-03-16-13.58.log.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Participants = * JaroslavReznik * KevinKofler * LukasTinkl * RexDieter * StevenParrish * ThanNgo * Ryan Rix * Eike Hein * ThomasJanssen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Agenda = * topics to discuss: o rrix blah'ing about dvd/liveimage kde-integration o qt-4.7.0-tp ready for devel/ import o kde-4.4.1 status o Triaging trips/tricks for commonly reported abrt bugs? o Target audience = Summary = rrix blah'ing about dvd/liveimage kde-integration * Fedora isn't seen as KDE distro, we need to improve it * Colin Walters is improving DVD experience o KDE comps o Some package splits o Firstboot dragging too much of Gnome * Ryan Rix to check current status, meaning of this effort qt-4.7.0-tp ready for devel/ import * qt-assistant-adp compat package imported * Issues o PyQt4/PyKDE4 broken * Rex Dieter to commit/build qt-4.7.0-tp1 in devel/ kde-4.4.1 status * Agreed: kde-4.4.1 is ready for stable updates Triaging trips/tricks for commonly reported abrt bugs? * Kevin Kofler is closing duplicates o Mostly KPixmapCache issue * We need better duplicates checks - Karel Klic is working on it Target audience [1] * KDE SIG meeting proposal to be discussed on mailing list ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Next Meeting = http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2010-03-23 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Links = [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/KDE_Target_Audience -- Jaroslav Řezník <jreznik(a)redhat.com> Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/

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howto restart kde bug reporting
by Neal Becker 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

I was just about to file a crash report. Installed missing debuginfos. Somehow, I closed the dialog without sending the report. How can I restart it?

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On bugzillas
by Timothy Murphy 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

Am I alone in finding the reporting of bugzillas bizarre? I've been following the progress of recent KMail problems, all of which have been declared duplicates of the year-old <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186502>. I submitted one of these "duplicate" bugzillas, which evidently put me on the CC list for any further duplicates. But all I receive when one of these duplicates appears - there seem to be several each day - is a message that the bugzilla has been declared a duplicate. I have to go to some trouble to find what the bugzilla actually says. Surely it would be more rational to send me the brief form of the bugzilla report, followed by the information that it has been declared a duplicate? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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Maximum number of clients reached
by Neal Becker 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

I keep getting X errors: Maximum number of clients reached I've never seen these before, but recently it's happening all the time. How can I debug this?

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Amarok seems to have lost its internet sources
by Anne Wilson 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

I could be a week since I last used the facility, but having got my new newsletter from Magnatune I wanted to try out the latest albums. To my surprise Amarok is now only offering me local albums, and I can't find any way of getting the Internet sources back. Although Magnatune is the only one I actually use, all the sources are ticked in the configuration page. Has anyone any idea? Anne -- KDE Community Working Group New to KDE Software? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org

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No login window at boot
by Orion Poplawski 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

Is anyone else seeing an issue where on boot the login window is not displayed - just the background image? If I restart kdm it appears. Appeared recently, I'm thinking X driver change. -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA/CoRA Division FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane orion(a)cora.nwra.com Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com

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What Happened to KMLDonkey
by Eli Wapniarski 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

Hi All It seems that kmldonkey is missing? Any ideas as to why? Eli -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Kauth problem
by Christian Jann 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

Hello, Could somebody get svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdeexamples/authorization to work with F12 or F13, I can't F12 KDE 4.4.1 (kde-unsable repo) svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdeexamples/authorization cd authorization/ sed -i '1i\cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 2.6.2 FATAL_ERROR)' CMakeLists.txt mkdir build cd build cmake .. make sudo make install ./kauth_example now when I try to save /testfile I get an SELinux alert: SELinux is preventing /lib/dbus-1/dbus-daemon-launch-helper "execute_no_trans" access on /usr/local/lib/kde4/libexec/kauth_example_helper. su - audit2allow -m local -l -i /var/log/audit/audit.log > local.te vim local.te ################ module local 1.0; require { type lib_t; type system_dbusd_t; class file execute_no_trans; } #============= system_dbusd_t ============== allow system_dbusd_t lib_t:file execute_no_trans; ################# checkmodule -M -m -o local.mod local.te semodule -i local.pp exit ./kauth_example now no SELINUX alert anymore but I get only: "Launch helper exited with unknown return code 255" when I try to save /testfile but I should get some authorization window like here: pkexec touch /testfile changing date and time in systemsettings works also I hope somebody can help me to get some more debug output or knows what the problem is I hope this behavior is only F12 special, maybe somebody with F13 can try this

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Re: kde Digest, Vol 16, Issue 36
by long2015 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

2010/3/14 <kde-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > Send kde mailing list submissions to > kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kde-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kde-owner(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kde digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Maximum number of clients reached (Anne Wilson) > 2. Re: Maximum number of clients reached (Patrick O'Callaghan) > 3. Re: KMail again (Eli Wapniarski) > 4. Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF? (Kevin Kofler) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:26:16 +0000 > From: Anne Wilson <cannewilson(a)googlemail.com> > Subject: Re: Maximum number of clients reached > To: KDE on Fedora discussion <kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > Message-ID: <201003131526.22680.cannewilson(a)googlemail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Saturday 13 March 2010 14:26:17 Patrick Boutilier wrote: > > On 03/13/2010 10:11 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Friday 12 March 2010 16:43:54 Neal Becker wrote: > > >> I keep getting X errors: > > >> Maximum number of clients reached > > >> > > >> I've never seen these before, but recently it's happening all the > time. > > >> How can I debug this? > > > > > > I doubt if you can. This generally occurs when the site you are > > > addressing is using a database and there are literally too many queries > > > happening at the same moment. Sometimes it's a denial-of-service > attack > > > on the server. Sometimes it's just coincidence, and a few moments later > > > you can connect. I have seen it regardless of web browser being used - > > > not surprising, really. > > > > Isn't Neal taking about X errors, not website errors? > > I am sorry, I do not know how to use it, how to replay? Apologies - I should read more carefully. Googling for the error message > gives guidance. > > Anne > -- > KDE Community Working Group > New to KDE Software? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 198 bytes > Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. > Url : > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kde/attachments/20100313/4f712245/… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:01:42 -0430 > From: Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Maximum number of clients reached > To: kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Message-ID: <1268501502.21405.8.camel(a)bree.homelinux.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 15:25 +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > I use Chrome as my day-to-day browser and mostly it works well, but if > > > for any reason it crashes, or you shut down or log out without quitting > > > it, it tends to leave several processes lying around, as has already > > > been said. AFAIK these processes will stay there forever unless you > > > explicitly kill them (pgrep -fl chrome; pkill -9 chrome). > > > > > > Then you often have to clean up the mess by removing stuff from > > > ~/.cache/google-chrome/Cache and possibly ~/.config/google-chrome. I > > > haven't completely figured it out yet, but if you don't do this then a > > > new session of Chrome is likely to hang on some of your tabs. The exact > > > conditions aren't clear to me. > > > > As a matter of interest, why do you use it > > as your "day-to-day browser" if it what seems like > > fairly serious deficiencies? > > The deficiencies are outweighed by the advantages, or to put it another > way, by the deficiencies of other browsers. I don't want to get into a > browser war here, but I though I've used FF for many years and still > keep it up to date, I find Chrome extremely fast (both to start up and > in page rendering) and on the whole more reliable than FF, in large part > because of the process-per-tab model, which I believe FF will adopt in a > future version. It's also less of a cpu hog. > > The problems I mentioned above are annoying, but I know about them and > they only affect me at well-defined moments. > > Also, none of the above precludes me from going back to FF if/when it > catches up with Chrome in these areas. Competition is good :-) > > poc > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:33:22 +0200 > From: Eli Wapniarski <eli(a)orbsky.homelinux.org> > Subject: Re: KMail again > To: kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Message-ID: <201003131933.22511.eli(a)orbsky.homelinux.org> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > It's been a long time since I've used dovecote. Currently using cyrus-imap > and > I have not seen that kind of error. Right now, I'm seriously thinking about > zarafa. > > Be that as I may. If I remember correctly. You will have to go to your mail > cache which should be somewhere in /var/mail (could be wrong about the > exact > location) and go through a process of elimination. > > 1) shut down your MTA (etc, sendmail, postfix, etc.). > 2) Shutdown your imap server. > 3) Make a backup copy of your mail cache > 4) Delete the email that is causing you the grief (be mindful of the first > message that says don't delete me. And be mindful of the seperator > between > emails. > 5) a) Restart your imap server and mta > b) If that didn't fix the server go through steps 1 -5a again only > delete > a different email or section of emails. > c) If you've only deleted 1 email then thats that. If you've deleted > a section of emails, you will need to restore the backup, and go > through steps 1- 5a making the section you delete smaller and smaller > until you eliminate the email causing you the trouble. > > > I wish there was an easier way to do that, but I couldn't find any > > > Eli > > > On Saturday 13 March 2010 16:08:57 Timothy Murphy wrote: > > I am running KMail on my laptop > > to access a dovecot/IMAP server on my desktop. > > > > KMail works fine most of the time, > > except that there are a couple of "sick" messages > > which I can't get rid of. > > As soon as I click on them KMail crashes. > > > > I've been waiting for this KMail bug to be solved, > > but that doesn't seem to be coming very soon > > (I've submitted a bugzilla, as have many others). > > > > I'm wondering now if there is a simple way > > of dealing with the symptom, > > by getting rid of these bad messages. > > > > I've seen a suggestion that the problem is due to > > some corruption of a dovecot/KMail cache, > > but I'm not sure what that refers to. > > > > If any KMail/kdepim expert has a solution > > I should be very grateful. > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:36:27 +0100 > From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler(a)chello.at> > Subject: Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF? > To: kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Message-ID: <hnhb2b$aho$1(a)dough.gmane.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > Patrick Boutilier wrote: > > Open with Okular then save the embedded file. Then open the embedded > > file with Okular. > > But unfortunately, there may be more embedded files hidden behind some > weird > magic which Okular does not understand. :-( (In the case of the form in the > linked thread, that was the case.) > > Kevin Kofler > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > kde mailing list > kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde > > End of kde Digest, Vol 16, Issue 36 > *********************************** > -- “可与言而不与之言，失人；不可与言而与之言，失言。” ——《论语·卫灵公》

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KMail again
by Timothy Murphy 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

I am running KMail on my laptop to access a dovecot/IMAP server on my desktop. KMail works fine most of the time, except that there are a couple of "sick" messages which I can't get rid of. As soon as I click on them KMail crashes. I've been waiting for this KMail bug to be solved, but that doesn't seem to be coming very soon (I've submitted a bugzilla, as have many others). I'm wondering now if there is a simple way of dealing with the symptom, by getting rid of these bad messages. I've seen a suggestion that the problem is due to some corruption of a dovecot/KMail cache, but I'm not sure what that refers to. If any KMail/kdepim expert has a solution I should be very grateful. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?
by Arthur Pemberton 13 Mar '10

13 Mar '10

Re: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-January/365506.html Any idea what is up with this? I need to open a PDF with this problem. Arthur Pemberton -- Fedora 11 (www.pembo13.com)

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k3b-1.70 x86_64
by John Armitage 12 Mar '10

12 Mar '10

How come the latest k3b has gone from the x86_64 repo?

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KMail problem
by Timothy Murphy 12 Mar '10

12 Mar '10

I'm surprised the recent KMail problem has not been solved. The symptoms in my case, in brief, are 1. I am using KMail on my laptop with dovecot/IMAP to read mail collected on my desktop; 2. KMail crashes when reading, or even accessing, certain messages. These are nearly all, if not all, mailing list digests. I guess the property they have in common might be that they have a large number of references to other messages or URLs. I submitted a bugzilla, which bizarrely to me was declared a duplicate of a bugzilla over a year old <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186502> and which appeared to deal with another symptom, KMail crashing when it starts. There are a large number of duplicates listed, nearly all very recent. It seems to me fairly obvious that the problem has arisen recently, and is due to a recent change in KMail (or possibly dovecot). -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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unlock screen dialog box empty
by Dj YB 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

hello, after the update to 4.4 the unlock screen dialog box is empty, does anyone else have this problem? if you need more info please tell me what and I'll post it here. thanks, YB.

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Re: Can someone package simon?
by Kyle 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

Ryan, The non-free software is HTK correct? There no replacement FOSS for it? Kyle

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RFC: kde stability proposal (redux)
by Rex Dieter 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

One more call for discussion around another proposal that came out of FUDCon Toronto. Short version of this is that we'd consider slowing down updates a step, esp for the second half of a fedora release's lifetime, and to limit kde 4.x-type upgrades to at most 1 per release. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Stability_Proposal Whatever we decide, increasing our transparency by documenting our update practices will hopefully help shape everyone''s plans and expectations. As it is, seems these vary wildly. -- Rex

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