nntp (aka, usenet) client in kde?
by Gene Smith
I currently use t-bird with an nntp account pointing to gmane to read
this list and sereral others. Does kde have an nntp client program of
any sort? I don't see it as a possible new account type in kmail. Also,
search with kpackagekit yields nothing with "usenet" or "nntp" that is
kde specific.
-gene
3 years, 3 months
Modular KDE?
by Chris Smart
Hi all,
Apologies if this has already been discussed on the list (I did search
2010 archives), I'm curious about people's thoughts on a modular
version KDE for Fedora?
That is, where one can install a basic KDE and then only the
components they want - packages are broken up into individual
programs, like "kontact" rather "kdepim". Of course, this doesn't stop
us from still using groups/meta-packages to install everything, or a
collection of programs (like @kde-pim perhaps?).
The benefit is the ability to have a more custom, smaller, faster,
snappier desktop. It also makes KDE applications more attractive for
non-KDE desktop users (they don't need to install a dozen programs to
get the one they need).
If you've never used a modular KDE system before, I highly recommend
you give it a shot!
Thoughts?
-c
12 years, 8 months
KDE 4.5 libraries problem with Skype
by Manuel Escudero
I have installed Fedora 13 Goddard x86_64 in my machine and I've updated to
KDE 4.5, in order to run Skype I installed some 32 bit Qt libraries and
when I installed the new KDE desktop I had to remove them because KDE 4.4
uses the "1:4.6" version of these libraries and KDE 4.5 the "1:4.7"...
Now I have KDE 4.5 and everything is fine but I can't run lastest Skype
because it needs the "1:4.6" Qt libraries, it doesn't work with the new
ones, but if I remove the new ones and I replace them with
the older ones, many apps seem to be "downgraded" or they just don't work
anymore...
Does this mean we're not having Skype in Fedora 14 KDE Spin as it's going to
be based on KDE 4.5?
Many users need skype (in my case I'm running it in a Windows 7 VM) But
without it we can't offer reliable "Videocalls" as they're not implemented
in IM Clients Linux have.
And please do not start with fanaticism about opensource, as I said in
ambassadors mailing list:
Quoted Mail:
Well, I know about the free alternatives, what I'm discussing here is that
many users USE SKYPE. We have free software but we can't tell those users
who use skype: CANCEL YOUR SKYPE ACCOUNT BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE FREE. We, as
ambassadors, are supposed to help the user and this is an issue that is
going to affect many skype users in fedora 14 KDE unless someone finds a
solution.
Yes, we have free software, but tell me: Any of our free software supports
skype's protocol? The answer is NO. and by "demonizing" skype's use you're
commiting fanaticism... If GNU/LINUX and OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE is what
matters to you, change to UTUTO or GNEWSENSE as Fedora isn't considered
COMPLETELY OPEN SOURCE by the Gnu Foundation.
I'm not gonna continue arguing... I'm open to solutions, not "empty
opinions"
And for me, it's sad that some ambassadors are not thinking in the future of
the user... This is not the way to win "ground" in technologies battle...
End of Quoted mail...
P.S. Sorry for the words in capital letters.
P.S.2: For me, the final user is as important as OpenSource and Fedora :)
--
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12 years, 8 months
kde-4.5.0 (f13 only for now) coming to kde-testing later today
by Rex Dieter
Just a heads-up, warning, notice, fyi, blah blah.
We've got an initial batch of kde-4.5.0 f13 builds ready for broader
testing, and will be landing in our kde-testing repos shortly. These
will supercede the kde-4.5.0 currently in f13/kde-unstable repo.
To be clear, these are not built against, need, or use qt-4.7.0, which
will remain in kde-unstable.
And, hopefully by the end of the week, we'll have kde-4.5.1 available too.
-- Rex
12 years, 9 months
Re: [Ambassadors] Urgent Matter
by Ryan Rix
On Mon 30 August 2010 13:22:51 Manuel Escudero wrote:
> I have installed Fedora 13 Goddard x86_64 in my machine and I've updated to
> KDE 4.5, in order to run Skype I installed some 32 bit Qt libraries and
> when I installed the new KDE desktop I had to remove them because KDE 4.4
> uses the "1:4.6" version of these libraries and KDE 4.5 the "1:4.7"...
> Now I have KDE 4.5 and everything is fine but I can't run lastest Skype
> because it needs the "1:4.6" Qt libraries, it doesn't work with the new
> ones, but if I remove the new ones and I replace them with
> the older ones, many apps seem to be "downgraded" or they just don't work
> anymore...
> Does this mean we're not having Skype in Fedora 14 KDE Spin as it's going
> to be based on KDE 4.5?
>
> Many users need skype (in my case I'm running it in a Windows 7 VM) But
> without it we can't offer reliable "Videocalls" as they're not implemented
> in IM Clients Linux have.
So, a few things here...
This isn't Ambassadors material, please keep it either on the users@ list or
(probably better) the kde@ list, where most KDE and Qt issues are handled.
This is most definitely not the place for it, "urgent" or not.
Skype is indeed NOT going to be on the Fedora 14 KDE Spin as it is non-Free
software. From my PoV, it's harmful for Ambassadors to promote the use of this
software as it encourages lock in to proprietary applications and (probably
worse) proprietary protocols. Also, as you can see by your mail, using
proprietary applications can be more than a "philosophical" issue, given the
breakage you caused yourself by installing it. Imagine telling a new user how
to do this, and realizing they have just broken or messed up their
installation. Does it really put our distribution in a positive light? You
should be encouraging users to embrace Free solutions such as Ekiga softphone,
Pidgin and other SIP-based solutions which can be properly packaged for our
distribution.
Lastly, Qt is supposed to be backwards compatible, meaning that applications
compiled in Qt 4.6 are supposed to work in Qt 4.7, etc... If you have
encountered a regression, file a bug at Nokia's Qt bug tracker[1], and let the
KDE Fedora list know of the issue. This is not the place to discuss such
issues.
[1]: http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/
--
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== http://rix.si/page/contact/ if you need a word ==
12 years, 9 months
klipper popup menu
by Colin J Thomson
Hi,
Is anyone here seeing this:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=240053
It seems an old bug but has manifested itself here since the last beta and
also in kde-4.5/Fedora 13
I'll search some more bugs.kde but am keen to know if anyone else is seeing
this.
Colin
--
Fedora release 13 (Goddard)
Registered Linux user number #342953
12 years, 9 months
testing kdepim 4.5?
by moabi2000
Hi,
I'd like to test kdepim 4.5 (4.4.92) on my F13 system, so was trying
to build kdepim using kdesrc-build. Just building kdepim and
kdepimlibs doesn't work, so tried running default kdesrc-build to
build everything. It fails at the configuring qt stage.I've tried to
install the buildrequires, but get dependency problems:
yum-builddep --enablerepo=kde* qt qt-x11
<-snip->
Error: Package: 1:dbus-devel-1.2.24-1.fc13.x86_64 (fedora)
Requires: dbus = 1:1.2.24-1.fc13
Installed: 1:dbus-1.2.24-1.fc13.1.x86_64 (@kde-unstable)
dbus = 1:1.2.24-1.fc13.1
Available: 1:dbus-1.2.24-1.fc13.x86_64 (fedora)
dbus = 1:1.2.24-1.fc13
You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
Any suggestions? I'm presuming dbus is critical so building qt without
is pointless? Does anyone happen to have a config file for
kdesrc-build that I can use just to build kdepim? Or is there an
easier way?
Thanks for the help
M.
12 years, 9 months
Command-line desktop specification
by Timothy Murphy
Is there a command-line way of asking for
an application, eg ssh, to open in a specified desktop?
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
12 years, 9 months
How to add password to wallet?
by Timothy Murphy
What is the mechanism, if any, for adding a password
to KWallet?
I read the short KWallet Manager help/handbook ,
but this did not help me.
I have 3 folders in knode.
Whenever I check for posts in one of them
KWallet asks me to enter my wallet password.
When I go in KWallet Manager to knode->Passwords
I see that the other two knode folders are listed,
but not this one.
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
12 years, 9 months
WebKit(s) SIG
by Jaroslav Reznik
Hi all (and if not all, feel free to add them to CC).
I'd like to establish
WebKit SIG (or some sort of group of people interested in WebKit in Fedora -
no need for any official one) as it's quite an overhead to maintain such a big
beast here. We have QtWebKit, WebKitGtk, Chromium, KHTML... All very similar
but based on different toolkit, concept etc. and it's mess currently (with
responsibilities etc).
What's the reason?
- all WebKit-like implementations
are very similar with only a little differences (toolkit...)
- there are quite
a lot of CVEs - it's time consuming to go over all CVEs (thanks for great job
goes to Vincent Danen and other brave men from security response team) and
most of patches could be shared
- a lot of bugs affects all implementations -
again patches sharing
- sometimes the primary maintainer of one of WebKits is
out of time - that means other team member could help
- and probably many
other reason like we are on the same WebKit ship (and if it's going to
sink...)
What can I bring to the team?
I'm a current primary QtWebKit
maintainer (with help of rest KDE SIG people), upstream's WebKit security team
member. I don't care about used toolkit - I offer help with Gtk and other ones
too - what I care is user experience.
If you're interested in - please reply,
I'd like to start Wiki page and we can talked about more details
etc.
Thanks
Jaroslav
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Software
Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno
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Mobile: +420
602 797 774
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12 years, 9 months
