July 2014 - kde - Fedora mailing-lists

nntp (aka, usenet) client in kde?
by Gene Smith 07 Feb '20

07 Feb '20

I currently use t-bird with an nntp account pointing to gmane to read this list and sereral others. Does kde have an nntp client program of any sort? I don't see it as a possible new account type in kmail. Also, search with kpackagekit yields nothing with "usenet" or "nntp" that is kde specific. -gene

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baloo-kcmadv in f20/kde-unstable repo
by Rex Dieter 14 Jan '15

14 Jan '15

An alternative baloo-kcmadv with more features and closer to the nepomuk kcm is under development, and has been packaged in f20/kde-unstable repo. Features include: disable indexing button whitelist/blacklist mime/glob filtering Once installed, you'll see a new item "Desktop Search Advanced" in systemsettings. -- rex

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SDDM doesn't unlock gnome-keyring?
by Juan Orti Alcaine 11 Aug '14

11 Aug '14

I'm testing SDDM and I've seen gnome-keyring is not unlocked when starting a session. It works fine with KDM Is only me, or someone else has experienced this problem? I remember to have touch the pam configuration of kdm in the past, but sddm has its stock config. I have this in /etc/pam.d/sddm auth [success=done ignore=ignore default=bad] pam_selinux_permit.so auth substack password-auth -auth optional pam_gnome_keyring.so -auth optional pam_mate_keyring.so auth include postlogin account required pam_nologin.so account include password-auth password include password-auth session required pam_selinux.so close session required pam_loginuid.so session optional pam_console.so -session optional pam_ck_connector.so session required pam_selinux.so open session optional pam_keyinit.so force revoke session required pam_namespace.so session include password-auth -session optional pam_gnome_keyring.so auto_start -session optional pam_mate_keyring.so auto_start session include postlogin And this in /etc/pam.d/kdm #%PAM-1.0 auth [success=done ignore=ignore default=bad] pam_selinux_permit.so auth required pam_env.so auth substack system-auth -auth optional pam_gnome_keyring.so auth include postlogin account required pam_nologin.so account include system-auth password include system-auth session required pam_selinux.so close session required pam_loginuid.so session optional pam_console.so -session optional pam_ck_connector.so session required pam_selinux.so open session optional pam_keyinit.so force revoke session required pam_namespace.so -session optional pam_gnome_keyring.so auto_start session include system-auth session include postlogin -- Juan Orti GPG Key: DEEBD08B - http://jorti.fedorapeople.org/pubkey.asc Blog: https://apuntesderoot.wordpress.com/

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Re: Nepomuk once again
by Rex Dieter 30 Jul '14

30 Jul '14

On 06/22/2014 07:20 PM, Markus Slopianka wrote: > Hi. > Not sure why it seems to happen with every update but once again > kde-workspace 4.11.10 tries to install Nepomuk. ;-) > > Is there anything we can do to help fix this? it's just that the nepomuk-free kde-workspace build from kde-unstable got superceded by a recent update: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7457/kde-workspace-4.11… We have concrete plans to start work on brining kde-4.13.x to f20 officially, but I guess we haven't decided on how best to deal with the nepomuk transition yet (ie, whether remove nepomuk-related deps from core kde packages or not). -- Rex

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Re: Nepomuk once again
by Rex Dieter 30 Jul '14

30 Jul '14

On 07/25/2014 11:02 AM, Markus Slopianka wrote: > Again... Hrm, seems the BuildConflicts: nepomuk-core-devel that I inserted into kde-workspace.spec after last time, didn't help catch this. :( Fixed kde-workspace-4.11.11-2.1 build on the way... -- rex > On Monday 23 June 2014 02:20:22 Markus Slopianka wrote: >> Not sure why it seems to happen with every update but once again >> kde-workspace 4.11.10 tries to install Nepomuk. ;-) >> >> Is there anything we can do to help fix this?

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Nepomuk once again
by Markus Slopianka 25 Jul '14

25 Jul '14

Hi. Not sure why it seems to happen with every update but once again kde-workspace 4.11.10 tries to install Nepomuk. ;-) Is there anything we can do to help fix this? Markus

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Advice needed on dealing with kicad, kipi-plugins and kdepim
by Richard Hughes 23 Jul '14

23 Jul '14

Hi all, A few weeks ago we produced this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FBmdtwDH6WHaLBfy6yqYqjEd3IA5GBEDyh-… which is a list of all the desktop applications and addons that share package names in Fedora. The core problem is that users click "Remove" on "Akonadi Console" in either Apper or GNOME Software and then find that an application that they wanted to keep "KOrganizer" has gone too! So they re-install "KOrganizer" and the "Akonadi Console" item appears magically. The confused user then files a bug :) Splitting things up into subpackages containing the correct binary and the .desktop file, depending on a -common package would fix things, and is what most of the software in that shared document has already done. The alternative is to add NoDisplay=true to the desktop file for something like Akonadi Console that might want to be hidden in the menus, or blacklist akonadiconsole.desktop from the metadata parser completely. The other fix we can do is to "merge" the child applications into a parent application, e.g. we merged git-dag into git-cola so only the latter is shown in the software center. This isn't ideal as then you hide the very thing the user might be looking for (although, we do inherit the merged applications keywords and mimetypes for searching). In an ideal world we should split up the kicad, kipi-plugins and kdepim packages into 4+ subpackages each, but I wanted to know what you all thought of the proposal before I filed a bug or worked on a patch. Ideas welcome, thanks. Richard.

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Make a KDM greeter screenshot
by Felix Miata 19 Jul '14

19 Jul '14

The instructions at http://linuxtidbits.wordpress.com/2009/12/07/taking-a-kdm-screenshot/ don't work for my KDE4/KDM4 installation. The few others Google has found me also fail, including searching focused on kde.org. Anyone know where to find instructions that work? TIA -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Meeting attendance statistics, Proposal: replace siddharts with danofsatx as voting WG member
by Kevin Kofler 17 Jul '14

17 Jul '14

Hi, I made a table of the meeting attendance since the inception of the new Plasma WG. The HTML table is attached. Of note: * On 2014-04-22, there was no meeting at all. On 2014-06-10, less than half of the voting members were attending. For several of the other days, I had to drum together people to get them to show up, several showed up late (lateness is not considered in the table, late people are listed as present), and the main reason there was no meeting on April 22 is that I wasn't there to drum people up. * Attendance ranges from 100% (me, though to be fair, I wouldn't have been present on April 22 if there had been a meeting on that day) to 0% (Siddharth Sharma). * 2 voting members have attendance scores less than 50%: jreznik (46%) and obviously siddharths (0%). * On the other hand, danofsatx has been attending at least 62% of the meetings. (Those are only the ones he reported present at, meetbot doesn't log people who are present without writing anything, thus the "at least".) I propose that, effective immediately, Siddhart Sharma gets dropped from the list of voting WG members, and nominate danofsatx as the replacement. WG members, please vote! My vote for my own proposal is obviously a +1. Kevin Kofler

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Re: KDE Connect firewall rules
by Rex Dieter 17 Jul '14

17 Jul '14

On 07/13/2014 06:26 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/14/14 07:14, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Dan Mossor wrote: >>> Wait - you're saying that it's against Fedora Policies to ship firewall >>> rules for applications that need network access? Somebody needs to let >>> the Server Working Group know about that - they are working on the >>> packaging of firewall rules for every role they're creating. >> At least in the days before "Fedora Next", the rule has always been that all >> ports must be firewalled by default except where FESCo decided that they >> should be open by default (which they did for sshd and mDNS), and that >> packages must not override those defaults. > > But, isn't there a difference between "ports open by default" and "supplying rules that *can* be enabled when needed"? Isn't that what is done for services such as "smtp"? > > By default, port 25 is filtered. But, in firewalld there is a check box to open/enable "smtp" services. Isn't that the goal for KDE Connect? There may have been some confusion over that in particular, but to be clear... *my* intent was indeed to simply ship a firewall rule and document it, but not enable it by default. -- Rex

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My "akonadi_nepomuktag_resource" is offline since KDE-4.13
by Laurent Rineau 17 Jul '14

17 Jul '14

Hi, My system if Fedora 20, with the kde, kde-testing, and kde-unstable repositories enabled. In Kmail, I have virtual mail directories, under "Tags". Since the update to KDE-4.13 (with Baloo), that "Tags" directory is marked as "Offline", and I do not have any way of toggle it online. In the Akonadi Console, that set of virtual directories is governed by a resource named "akonadi_nepomuktag_resource", but I do not see which Akonadi agent is responsible for it. Probably it is gone since the upgrade. How can I handle that issue? That is probably a bug in the migration agent. -- Laurent Rineau http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LaurentRineau

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Re: Advice needed on dealing with kicad, kipi-plugins and kdepim
by Rex Dieter 16 Jul '14

16 Jul '14

On 07/15/2014 11:17 AM, Syam Krishnan wrote: > On 07/15/2014 05:39 PM, Daniel Vrátil wrote: >> speaking with my KDE PIM developer hat on, I think it makes a lot of >> sense to >> actually split the package per-app, so we would have >> >> kdepim-akonadiconsole (I'd actually prefer if this was not installed by >> default, so that people would not be tempted to play with it :P) >> kdepim-akregator >> kdepim-blogilo >> kdepim-kaddressbook >> kdepim-kjots >> kdepim-kleopatra >> kdepim-kmail >> kdepim-knode >> kdepim-knotes >> kdepim-kontact >> kdepim-korganizer >> kdepim-libs (libs shared by multiple PIM apps) >> kdepim-common (?) (shared executables, like incidenceeditor-ng, Akonadi >> agents, etc) > > One suggestion (apologies in advance if I've not understood it > correctly). Why "kdepim-*" naming for applications? It's a convention to highlight the originating module where the subpkg comes from. We *usually* follow this in split kde packaging, kde-baseapps being a recent exception. I think I'd prefer to follow that here too, but I won't insist on it. > I think we had something like this for kate, okteta etc. which was > sometimes irritating since one had to yum search for "*kate*" to figure > out the package name for installation. Anyway, nowadays, its just kate > and okteta, and I'm liking it. Indeed, we had kdesdk- prefix for these once, but that was prior to upstream doing split tarballs for us. -- Rex

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Panel freezing
by Timothy Murphy 16 Jul '14

16 Jul '14

I'm running Fedora-20 with KDE 4.12 (not quite sure how one defines the KDE version now?) Every hour or so the panel does not take any input, eg I cannot change virtual desktop by clicking on them, although I can change them by eg Ctrl-F3 or Ctrl-F5. I haven't found any way to cure this except to log out and login again. Has anyone else experienced this? There are various other misfeatures allied to this, I think, eg slabs of text get highlighted in a curious way. But the panel freezing is the most obvious symptom. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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KDE Connect firewall rules
by Richard Z 13 Jul '14

13 Jul '14

Hi, perhaps these firewall rules are useful to someone, works for me when "192.168.2.0/8" is the local network where the Android device connects. # firewall-cmd --permanent --add-rich-rule 'rule family="ipv4" source address="192.168.2.0/8" port port="1714-1764" protocol="udp" accept' # firewall-cmd --permanent --add-rich-rule 'rule family="ipv4" source address="192.168.2.0/8" port port="1714-1764" protocol="udp" accept' Richard --- Name and OpenPGP keys available from pgp key servers

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Re: PyQt5 missing from KF5 packaging?
by Rex Dieter 12 Jul '14

12 Jul '14

On 07/12/2014 10:42 AM, Markus Slopianka wrote: > Hi. > Is PyQt5 missing from F21's KF5 packaging or does PyQt5 just have a different > name and I'm too stupid to find it? ;-) PyQt5 is not part of KF5, it's in the main repo(s), as python-qt5 (but 'yum install PyQt5' will get it too). -- Rex

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PyQt5 missing from KF5 packaging?
by Markus Slopianka 12 Jul '14

12 Jul '14

Hi. Is PyQt5 missing from F21's KF5 packaging or does PyQt5 just have a different name and I'm too stupid to find it? ;-) Markus

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SSH Key Management on KDE
by Sudhir Khanger 10 Jul '14

10 Jul '14

Hello, I am wondering how you guys manage multiple ssh keys on your system. This is how I got to manage multiple keys on my system. Generate keys ssh-keygen -t rsa -f ~/.ssh/test_ssh_key_1 -C "yours(a)yours.com" ssh-keygen -t rsa -f ~/.ssh/test_ssh_key_2 -C "yours(a)yours.com" ssh-keygen -t rsa -f ~/.ssh/test_ssh_key_3 -C "yours(a)yours.com" ksshaskpass came already installed and SSH_ASKPASS set to /usr/bin/ksshaskpass. Moving on these keys can be added to ssh-agent using following command. ssh-add ~/.ssh/test_ssh_key_1 I ran these commands through KRunner so it triggers ksshaskpass and not password prompt on the terminal. This way Kwallet will save the password and I will not be asked to enter passphrase every time I am accessing anything over ssh. In order to automatically load these keys at system start I created following script. ~/.kde/Autostart/ksshaskpass #!/bin/sh export SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/ksshaskpass ssh-add ~/.ssh/test_ssh_key_1 < /dev/null ssh-add ~/.ssh/test_ssh_key_2 < /dev/null ssh-add ~/.ssh/test_ssh_key_3 < /dev/null chmod 755 ~/.kde/Autostart/ksshaskpass The problem is if KWallet is not opened as soon as system is started KDE will start the script triggering ksshaskpass to ask to enter password for the first ssh key. This is a working setup but not perfect. I was wondering if there is a way to ssh-add the key to ssh-agent on-demand or maybe trigger to open KWallet instead of ksshaskpass. What is wrong with my setup? How do you manage your ssh keys? -- Regards, Sudhir Khanger. sudhirkhanger.com https://github.com/donniezazen

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KDE cpu usage pop-up?
by Gene Smith 10 Jul '14

10 Jul '14

Since installing f20 I now see a pop-up that appears when, it seems, cpu usage has dropped below a certain point, typically when not typing or moving the mouse after maybe a minute. The same pop-up appears immediately when cpu usage increases, like after moving the mouse or resuming typing. The pop-up appears for only a about a second and is a small bar-graph with cpu usage in percent and a square "monitor" icon on the left. I have looked at KDE setting and see nothing that relates to this. Also, have searched online and found nothing about it. I have not installed plasma widgets that might cause this, AFAIK. I don't see it when running Gnome (which I rarely do) so I assume it is coming from KDE, but not sure. Can someone tell me what this is? -gene

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Re: 2014-07-09 @ **17:00 UTC** - F21 Blocker Review #1
by Dan Mossor 09 Jul '14

09 Jul '14

On 07/09/2014 02:07 PM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > Hi, > On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 4:20 AM, Mike Ruckman <roshi(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> # F21 Blocker Review meeting #1 >> # Date: 2014-07-09 >> # Time: 17:00 UTC (13:00 EST, 10:00 PST) >> # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.neteria >> ... >> == >> // Mike >> Fedora QA >> irc: roshi | twitter: roshi_fedora >> blog: roshi.fedorapeople.org > Why this msg not going to the test-announce@? :P > It did go to test-announce - well, to test@, anyhow. But because this is a blocker review meeting discussing bugs that will block the release of fedora.next, roshi was inviting the interested WGs and SIGs since they have skin in the game. -- Dan Mossor, RHCSA Systems Engineer at Large Fedora QA Team | Fedora KDE SIG | Fedora Server SIG Fedora Infrastructure Apprentice FAS: dmossor IRC: danofsatx San Antonio, Texas, USA

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Re: 2014-07-09 @ **17:00 UTC** - F21 Blocker Review #1
by Bruno Wolff III 09 Jul '14

09 Jul '14

On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 23:07:12 +0400, Igor Gnatenko <ignatenkobrain(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: >Hi, >On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 4:20 AM, Mike Ruckman <roshi(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> # F21 Blocker Review meeting #1 >> # Date: 2014-07-09 >> # Time: 17:00 UTC (13:00 EST, 10:00 PST) >> # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.neteria >> ... >> == >> // Mike >> Fedora QA >> irc: roshi | twitter: roshi_fedora >> blog: roshi.fedorapeople.org >Why this msg not going to the test-announce@? :P I don't think the meeting log needs to go to test-announce. If the complaint is really about the meeting notice, then that is arguably a reasonable suggestion.

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Re: oxygen disappeared
by Rex Dieter 09 Jul '14

09 Jul '14

On 07/08/2014 12:08 PM, Colin J Thomson wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon 7 July 2014 11:41:42 Eli Wapniarski wrote: > >> kde-style-oxygen-4.11.10-7.fc20.x86_64 is installed on my system. >> >> However, it seems to have disappeared from my choices in: >> >> System Settings -> Application Appearance -> Style -> Widget Style > > Not much help but it shows up on this F20 box running 4.13.2 Try removing the [Qt%20Plugin%20Cache%204.8.false] [Qt%20Factory%20Cache%204.8] sections from ~/.config/Trolltech.conf or remove that file altogether. The Cache entries seem to get corrupted from time to time. -- Rex

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oxygen disappeared
by Eli Wapniarski 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

Hi.. kde-style-oxygen-4.11.10-7.fc20.x86_64 is installed on my system. However, it seems to have disappeared from my choices in: System Settings -> Application Appearance -> Style -> Widget Style Eli

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mask udisks2.service and upower.service
by Reindl Harald 02 Jul '14

02 Jul '14

for rsyslog it is possible to supress such messages: :msg, contains, "udisks2.service" ~ :msg, contains, "upower.service" ~ but using kate on machines which are a buildserver where it is fine to work with kate on SPEC files over SSH especially on virtual machines it spits permanently in the terminal is it not possible to explain the software "yes i have masked that because it is not neededso don't tell me that again and again" ______________________________________________________ [root@testserver:~]$ kate Object::connect: No such signal QDBusAbstractInterface::DeviceAdded(QString) Object::connect: No such signal QDBusAbstractInterface::DeviceRemoved(QString) Object::connect: No such signal QDBusAbstractInterface::DeviceAdded(QDBusObjectPath) Object::connect: No such signal QDBusAbstractInterface::DeviceRemoved(QDBusObjectPath) Failed enumerating UDisks2 objects: "org.freedesktop.systemd1.Masked" "Unit udisks2.service is masked." Failed enumerating UDisks2 objects: "org.freedesktop.systemd1.Masked" "Unit udisks2.service is masked." Failed enumerating UDisks2 objects: "org.freedesktop.systemd1.Masked" "Unit udisks2.service is masked." Failed enumerating UDisks2 objects: "org.freedesktop.systemd1.Masked" "Unit udisks2.service is masked." Failed enumerating UDisks2 objects: "org.freedesktop.systemd1.Masked" "Unit udisks2.service is masked." Failed enumerating UDisks2 objects: "org.freedesktop.systemd1.Masked" "Unit udisks2.service is masked." Failed enumerating UDisks2 objects: "org.freedesktop.systemd1.Masked" "Unit udisks2.service is masked." Failed enumerating UDisks2 objects: "org.freedesktop.systemd1.Masked" "Unit udisks2.service is masked."

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Re: KDE Connect firewall rules
by Rex Dieter 02 Jul '14

02 Jul '14

On 07/02/2014 10:47 AM, Markus Slopianka wrote: > openSUSE ships firewall rules with their KDE Connect package > <https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/KDE:Extra/kdeconnect-kde/kdeco…> > > Is something like that possibe under Fedora as well? Probably, contributions welcome, feature request is being tracked here, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1115547 -- Rex

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Re: Is it now "safe" to use the kde-redhat unstable repo?
by Rex Dieter 02 Jul '14

02 Jul '14

On 07/02/2014 07:14 AM, Markus Slopianka wrote: > Yes, kde-workspace 4.11.10 from unstable installs Nepomuk. Fixing that now... kde-workspace-4.11.10-6 build on the way. -- Rex

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Is it now "safe" to use the kde-redhat unstable repo?
by Valerio Mariani 02 Jul '14

02 Jul '14

Dear All, I am Valerio, a recent Fedora convert. Until now I only used Gnome 3 with Fedora, but I would like now to change to KDE, an old love of mine. I understand that currently the kde-redhat unstable repo provides packages for kde 4.13.1, as opposed to the 4.12.x packages in the official repos. I was concerned, after reading the last emails on this list, about conflicts for the workspace packages. I understand that in both repositories the plasma workspace is pinned (as upstream) at version 4.11... However, the packages in kde-redhat are compiled against baloo (used in 4.13), while the ones in the official repos are compiled against nepomunk (used in 4.12). I read, however, that the packages in the official repo have sometimes higher version number and get installed in place of the the ones in kde-redhat. My question is: is it safe at this point to use the kde-redhat unstable repositories on top of the official ones, or will I end up with a Frankenstein, half nepomunk, half baloo system? Thank you for your help! Valerio

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Re: Is it now "safe" to use the kde-redhat unstable repo?
by Rex Dieter 01 Jul '14

01 Jul '14

On 07/01/2014 10:57 AM, Valerio Mariani wrote: > Dear All, > > I am Valerio, a recent Fedora convert. Until now I only used Gnome 3 > with Fedora, but I would like now to change to KDE, an old love of mine. > > I understand that currently the kde-redhat unstable repo provides > packages for kde 4.13.1, as opposed to the 4.12.x packages in the > official repos. ... > My question is: is it safe at this point to use the kde-redhat unstable > repositories on top of the official ones, or will I end up with a > Frankenstein, half nepomunk, half baloo system? They are safe'ish. kde-unstable will soon hold what we plan on soon moving to kde-testing and official updates-testing repositories. See also: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-July/200690.html -- Rex

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Kaushik Guha invited you to check out Dropbox
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30 Jun '14

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