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blog post on Plasma 5 quality
by Glenn Holmer 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

What do you think? http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2015/10/some-thoughts-on-the-quality-… -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."

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Fedora 23 Final RC6 call for testing
by Adam Williamson 28 Oct '15

28 Oct '15

Hi folks! We have what should hopefully be the final RC for Fedora 23 available for testing now. It would be really great if folks could help us run as many of the validation tests as possible ahead of the Go/No- Go meeting tomorrow. Here are the result pages: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_23_Final_RC6_Installation https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_23_Final_RC6_Base https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_23_Final_RC6_Desktop https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_23_Final_RC6_Server https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_23_Final_RC6_Cloud we need to run all the tests marked as Alpha, Beta and Final, ideally for all the 'environments' (columns). Image download links are at the top of the page, and you can file results by editing the pages manually or using the 'relval' tool - you need to get that from a side repo, see https://www.happyassassin.net/wikitcms/ for info on installing it, then just run 'relval report-results'. If you find something that looks like a release blocker bug, please submit a bug report, file a 'fail' result referencing the bug report, and mark the bug as blocking 'FinalBlocker' (or use https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/propose_bug ) to propose it as a blocker. Thanks a lot folks! If you have any questions, please ask in #fedora-qa on Freenode. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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Suggestion: Replace Apper with Muon Discover in favorites menu
by Mustafa Muhammad 27 Oct '15

27 Oct '15

Hi, I installed the latest F23 RC and found Apper in the favorites menu, it is pretty much unusable for application discovery with the hawkey backend, I suggest putting Muon Discover in the favorites menu and removing Apper (from the favorites). This should be much better for new users and testers/reviewers. Mustafa

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long delays on kde startup (intermittent)
by Neal Becker 27 Oct '15

27 Oct '15

Recently (last month?) I'm seeing intermittently, long delays on kde startup. The startup draws a horizontal bar, and it hangs maybe 75% of the way for a Long time (30 sec)? This is on a very fast machine that usually starts kde in a few seconds. Any hints at troubleshooting?

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KDE (taskbar) panel and multiple monitors and latest kernels, oh my
by Mark Haney 26 Oct '15

26 Oct '15

I have a multi-layered problem here that's bugged the snot out of me for weeks. I've finally given up finding an answer myself and turn to the list for help. Here's my issue(s). I'm running F22 on a Lenovo ThinkPad T440S laptop. I have 2 monitors attached to the laptop, one using the mini-DP port (27") the other the external VGA port (21"). As I have meetings all over the office, I frequently unplug the display cables for meetings, then return to my desk and reconnect, and this is when things go pear shaped. When I connect the monitors back the taskbar switches to the 27" monitor. I don't want it there, but couldn't find a way to move it, other than to remove the panel and add it back to the laptop display. Is there another way of doing that? I've tried everything I can think of and nothing works. Second, for some reason, the newer kernels (4.1.10 and 4.2.3, I'm on 4.1.8 now), upon booting into them blanks my laptop screen leaving me with two displays. WTH is that happening and how do I stop it? And third, when I removed the original taskbar panel to move it to the laptop display, I lost the Fedora 'Start button' logo and have only the KDE logo. Yes, it's minor, but it irritates me, so is there any way to fix that? I'm not a Fedora or KDE n00b, but this is driving me nuts. Any ideas? -- Mark Haney ::: Senior Systems Engineer *VIF* International Education P.O. Box 3566 ::: Chapel Hill, N.C. 27515 ::: USA 919-265-5006 office Global learning for all. www.vifprogram.com <http://www.vifprogram.com/?utm_source=signature&utm_medium=email&utm_campai…> Find VIF on Facebook <http://facebook.com/VIFInternationalEducation> | Twitter <http://twitter.com/vifprogram> | LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/company/vif-international-education> Recognized as a ‘Best for the World’ <http://bestfortheworld.bcorporation.net/> B Corp!

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Re: blog post on Plasma 5 quality
by Rex Dieter 24 Oct '15

24 Oct '15

Multiple screens is (still) a bit of an unsolved problem in Qt, not related to driver. -- Rex ________________________________________ From: kde-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <kde-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> on behalf of Neal Becker <ndbecker2(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 6:23 AM To: kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: blog post on Plasma 5 quality I'm using intel graphics ATM, maybe that's why I see lots of problems with switching between multiple screens _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org

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Dolphin drag-and-drop
by Patrick O'Callaghan 24 Oct '15

24 Oct '15

I have several Dolphin windows, some with split panes, taking up a lot of screen space. Each pane contains multiple nested folders and it's not possible to have the entire set in view at once, either because they're scrolled out of sight or because one window is overlapping another. If I want to drag and drop a file from one pane to a specific position in another (such as to a closed folder in the target pane), they have to both be visible before I start. IOW after grabbing the file with the left button (and keeping the button depressed) the target pane will not pop to the top of the window stack so I can point at the destination folder, and if the folder happens to be visible it won't open so I can walk down the tree. This is less functional than other systems (Windows, MacOS and no doubt other Linux file browsers). Is there a way to configure Dolphin to get the desired behaviour? I know I can use right-click copy and paste but that's not what I'm asking. poc

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Dolphin slow start time and kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml
by Oleg Markin 22 Oct '15

22 Oct '15

Il 05/07/2015 22:02, Germano Massullo ha scritto: >* Today on #fedora-kde, user rom1dep complained about Dolphin (KDE 4) *>* taking ~5 seconds to start. He said that removing *>* .kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml *>* .kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml.bak *>* solved the problem. Those files contained thousands of lines about old *>* (and no longer used) removable devices. *>* Since I am running Plasma 5 and I was experiencing slow Dolphin start *>* times too, I tried to check how many code lines had my /bookmarks.xml. *>* I saw that it contained 7161 lines, for 228 KiB of disk space. I tried *>* to remove those files, then logged out&in from Plasma, and then I saw *>* that Dolphin required much less time to start. Removing those files did *>* not affect the resources/bookmarks that everyday I use in Dolphin. *>>* Do you confirm that removing those files reduces Dolphin start time? *>* Why do they contain all that stuff about unused removable devices? I *>* could see lines of XML code about Fedora 16 *>Did anybody experienced that? I have been experiencing the above freezing of Dolphin at Fedora 21 since this summer. It takes up to a minute to remove a file/directory. Gwenview demonstrates the same behavior -- takes a while to become active when stared.. Removal of the bookmarks.xml helps indeed, but this file, together with bookmarks.xml.bak, appears again when woken up from the sleep mode and has the same size as before deletion, so I wonder where does it get information and how to remove this information permanently?

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Re: The State of KDE: Pretty but unstable
by Gilboa Davara 22 Oct '15

22 Oct '15

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Glenn Holmer <shadowm(a)lyonlabs.org> wrote: > On 10/21/2015 04:41 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: >> I thought this article was particularly good > >> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-state-of-kde/ > > Are you kidding? > > "an underlying sensation that something was a breath away from crashing" > > "that 'shaky' feeling" > > "I feel as if something just might crash on me" > > "gives you an unsteady feeling like you might not be able to return to > the desktop" > > "lack of stability (even if only a perceived stability)" > > I've been bitterly disappointed with the current version of KDE, but > that guy's a clown. I fully agree. This article is far from being informative. Beyond that, we (my company) recently upgraded ~20 laptops and workstations to F22 (w/ KDE 5.4) up from F21 (w/ KDE 4.x) and I must admit that amount of noise was relatively low. We do see some issues with plasmashell slowly leaking memory and several key features are missing *, but all in all, Plasma 2 is *far* *far* *far* better than the initial experience we had when we switched from Fedora 8 to Fedora 9 (KDE 4.0). - Gilboa * E.g. Windows merge/tabbing and widgets/background per v.desktop no longer supported.

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The State of KDE: Pretty but unstable
by Gerald B. Cox 22 Oct '15

22 Oct '15

I thought this article was particularly good...I also really like the look of the new KDE... unfortunately as many people have recently pointed out... there are quite a few issues. http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-state-of-kde/

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