Crashes
by Steve Grubb
Hello,
I was curious about something. KDE has its own crash handling system.
How does this community track any metrics around code stability if
upstream gets reports? Kontact has segfaulted 20 times on me today.
Each time it says it cannot generate a bug report. Abrtd does not seem
to pick up anything. Shouldn't it? How does this community track
when a recent update suddenly starts making things crash? Kontact was
fine 3 weeks ago. I updated today (3 weeks of patches) and its crashing
all the time to the point its unusable. It won't generate a bug report,
abrtd seems not to notice either.
-Steve
2 years, 9 months
Enable earlyoom for KDE Spin
by Ben Cotton
Hi KDE team,
Workstation enabled earlyoom by default[1] in Fedora 32. A search of
Bugzilla suggests it has been a pretty well-behaved change. How do we
feel about submitting this as a self-contained change proposal for
Fedora 33 KDE?
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableEarlyoom
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Ben Cotton
He / Him / His
Senior Program Manager, Fedora & CentOS Stream
Red Hat
TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis
2 years, 11 months
Re: Btrfs for Fedora desktop variants
by Chris Murphy
They are using consumer drives.
In the last 12 months I've done 100+ pull the power plug tests while
compiling i.e. while writing. Every cold boot subsequent had no complaints,
normal in every way. No special commands or repairs.
Thing is? This isn't a scientific sample. It's not enough data to
understand what are pseudorandom hardware problems. Do you think these
tests prove I have good hardware? I don't. I know there are bugs in my SSD
firmware. I just haven't been hit by one at the same time as a power plug
pull.
Btrfs is tested way more than this though. Both synthetically using
xfstests, including dm-log-writes tests to demonstrate proper power fail
behavior by the filesystem. Facebook does these tests continuously. So do
many other companies. Things can still go wrong in ways no file system can
completely project you from.
But also other filesystems don't checksum my data. Why should I have
confidence in my data otherwise?
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Chris Murphy
2 years, 11 months
Btrfs for Fedora desktop variants
by Neal Gompa
Hey all,
Chris Murphy and I are working on a change to switch Fedora's desktop
variants to Btrfs[1]. The plan is for all Fedora desktop variants to
switch over, which means both release-blocking desktops
(Workstation/GNOME and KDE) will use Btrfs by default going forward. I
expect this to be a smooth change, as Btrfs has been a
release-blocking filesystem for many years now (at least since Fedora
20) and has had OpenQA tests to verify its functionality for nearly as
long as OpenQA has been in use in Fedora for testing. And I've
personally been using Btrfs on all my Fedora systems (~5 physical
machines and ~100 virtual machines) since 2015 with no issues.
My expectation is that there should be no work for the SIG to do
(beyond me doing the work, of course). For all the words that are in
the change proposal[1], the extent of the change is to flip the
settings in Anaconda to use Btrfs by default on new installations.
I'm interested in hearing about your feedback on the change proposal.
I am excited about this, personally, as I think there's some serious
opportunity to collaborate with KDE upstream and our friends at
openSUSE on taking advantage of Btrfs features to make a smoother
experience.
Thanks in advance and best regards,
Neal
[1]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BtrfsByDefault
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真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!
2 years, 11 months
kwin_x11 issue - 94 to 99 % process.
by Robin Laing
Hello
I am trying to find out why kwin_x11 is using one core on my machine at
and showing 94 to 99% in top. It isn't consistent as some times this
doesn't occur. This is on F30.
I set up another account on this machine for working at home and switch
between the users being logged in at the same time.
User A and B KDE sessions are running. New user C was created for work.
I login user C and switch back to B or A and then one core goes to 94
to 99% load on kwin_x11 for user C.
If I go to a VT terminal session , the kwin_x11 load disappears so it is
related to both kwin sessions.
If I use a tree listing, there is nothing listed under kwin-x11
strace on the process provides
ppoll([{fd=11, events=POLLIN}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN}, {fd=13,
events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=5, events=POLLIN}], 5,
{tv_sec=0, tv_nsec=0}, NULL, 8) = 0 (Timeout)
strace Summary of process calls.
% time seconds usecs/call calls errors syscall
------ ----------- ----------- --------- --------- ----------------
100.00 0.713184 6 110466 ppoll
------ ----------- ----------- --------- --------- ----------------
100.00 0.713184 6 110466 total
It does seem to be worse if I have any applications open such as Firefox
or LibreOffice.
Robin
2 years, 11 months
Help with an EPEL8 kde bug
by Troy Dawson
Hi All,
I've been working on a configuration / system settings bug [1] on the
rebuild of KDE on EPEL8.
I'm running out of ideas.
The problem:
When you open system settings and click on certain areas (Global
Theme, Plasma Style, and others) you get the following error
file:///usr/share/kpackage/kcms/kcm_lookandfeel/contents/ui/main.qml:87
Type NewStuff.Button unavailable
/usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/newstuff/qml/Button.qml:125: Type
NewStuff.Dialog unavailable
/usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/newstuff/qml/Dialog.qml:95: Type
NewStuff.DialogContent unavailable
/usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/newstuff/qml/DialogContent.qml:64: Type
NewStuff.Page unavailable
/usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/newstuff/qml/Page.qml:108: Type
NewStuff.QuestionAsker unavailable
/usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/newstuff/qml/QuestionAsker.qml:45:
"QtControls.Dialog.anchors" is not available due to component
versioning.
Versions of packages:
qt5 - 5.12.5 / 5.12.8
plasma - 5.18
kf5 - 5.68 / 19.12
apps - 5.18 / 19.12
Any thoughts, ideas, comments, are welcome.
Thanks
Troy Dawson
[1] - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1838801
2 years, 11 months
todo list
by Rex Dieter
FYI mostly (and in case anyone is interested in helping).
What I've been working on recently:
* kde apps 20.04.1 for rawhide: done
* kf5 5.70.x for f31: done(*)
Todos for the short-term future:
1 plasma-5.18.x for f31
2 Qt 5.14.x for f32
3 Qt 5.15 for rawhide
(*) done in that builds are done, bodhi is apparently having issue this
morning... initial attempts at submission failed. Will keep trying.
-- Rex
2 years, 11 months
cannot logout - sometimes.
by Robin Laing
Hello,
I have had this issue in F30 but just upgraded to F32 hoping it would be
fixed but now it is much worse.
I use multiple accounts to isolate personal stuff from work so I usually
have two or three different accounts open at any one time. Some
accounts I only open for a short period of time and then close them.
Lately I have been having more issues with logging out and the window
just gets to a point I cannot do anything in it. Mouse pointer moves
but no right or left click menus or anything else.
Tonight, it happened with only one account open and went to close that
as I was testing a weird issue with the mouse in that one account.
I have to go into a different account or terminal window and close all
the processes that are still running.
I have to kill this process before the session will finally close.
root 9191 0.0 0.0 171972 19764 ? SL Jun18 0:00
/usr/libexec/sddm-helper --socket
/tmp/sddm-auth21ca2b7f-c9cc-4127-afa5-b1d0bf27cbec --id 5 --start
/usr/bin/startplasma-x11 --user robin
It has happened with all the accounts I have on this machine. It can be
very frustrating.
I am suspecting it is related to something that is waiting but I don't
know what as I have just logged in for less than a minute and logged out
and it has occurred.
I have tried this but it doesn't fix the problem.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User#Kill_user_processes_on_...
This is a list of what is running according to top for the user after
trying to "Leave".
43039 xxxx 20 0 21596 11816 9584 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.39
systemd
43053 xxxx 20 0 179196 6524 4 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00
(sd-pam)
43121 xxxx 20 0 268728 4324 3908 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01
dbus-broker-lau
43122 xxxx 20 0 6240 3996 2708 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.17
dbus-broker
43216 xxxx 20 0 376096 41736 35524 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.26
kglobalaccel5
43221 xxxx 20 0 156240 5704 5128 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00
dconf-service
43262 xxxx 9 -11 344116 15844 12220 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.80
pulseaudio
43270 xxxx 20 0 384548 24352 19708 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.30
abrt-applet
43281 xxxx 20 0 340884 7016 6436 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00
agent
43304 xxxx 20 0 642980 34648 30336 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.13
kactivitymanage
43310 xxxx 20 0 305316 6956 6288 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01
at-spi-bus-laun
43322 xxxx 20 0 268468 3592 3300 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00
dbus-broker-lau
43327 xxxx 20 0 5148 2968 2708 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01
dbus-broker
43339 xxxx 20 0 343388 8076 7272 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00
gvfsd
43384 xxxx 20 0 322024 15428 13428 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04
mission-control
43465 xxxx 20 0 321776 20908 18260 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.10
kscreen_backend
43486 xxxx 20 0 17228 5568 4808 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00
gconf-helper
43487 xxxx 20 0 121492 7008 6252 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00
gconfd-2
43519 xxxx 20 0 160880 7844 7088 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.06
at-spi2-registr
45603 xxxx 20 0 453980 49044 41564 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.23
kdeconnectd
As I close processes, gconf-helper doesn't want to close and goes into a
zombie state.
43486 xxxx 20 0 0 0 0 Z 0.0 0.0 0:00.00
gconf-helper
As I am using a different approach this time by using "top" to show the
running processes, I noticed that pulse audio goes to 100% as I am
killing proccesses.
43262 xxxx 9 -11 344116 15848 12220 R 100.0 0.0 4:22.43
pulseaudio
Once I killed pulse audio, gconf-helper closed as well.
One thing I noticed on this last one that was strange, the plasma
session opened on the same terminal (TTY3) that I already had a terminal
session open in. I have never seen that before.
I hope someone can help me find this issue. I don't even know where to
start to file a bug report.
Robin
2 years, 11 months
clipboard on wayland
by Neal Becker
I'm trying plasma/wayland on F32. It seems clipboard doesn't work. In an
app, such as google chrome, selecting text the \C-c, nothing shows in the
clipboard. Also \C-v does not paste.
I'd include the list of wayland-related rpms, but I can't cut/paste them :)
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*Those who don't understand recursion are doomed to repeat it*
2 years, 11 months
