From gayleard at alice.it Fri Jun 5 04:17:14 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8952889411476596385==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Timothy Murphy To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: KMail bloat Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 13:41:50 +0200 Message-ID: --===============8952889411476596385== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I recently noticed that email send through KMail seems somewhat bloated. Eg I have sent a 1-line message "Testing ..." (plus signature) through KMail and through mutt. The two emails have sizes KMail 3408 mutt 1836 The difference is due to the addition of the code below at the end of the KMmail message. Is this additional material a necessary consequence of using KMail? or is it due to some configuration choice that I have inadvertently made? Additional KMail code: ------------------- --nextPart1556732.TjKetOXzTr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii"

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School o= f = Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: KMail bloat Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 13:46:41 +0200 Message-ID: <53E36721.6010302@thelounge.net> In-Reply-To: lrvolu$nbl$1@ger.gmane.org --===============1888047762512537289== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just disable HTML mail i am a thunderbird user but there is pretty sure an option and in modern times any mailclient defaults to the HTML crap and needs to be fixed https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/05/msg00599.html https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?t=3D19881 Am 07.08.2014 um 13:41 schrieb Timothy Murphy: > I recently noticed that email send through KMail seems somewhat bloated. > Eg I have sent a 1-line message "Testing ..." (plus signature) > through KMail and through mutt. > The two emails have sizes > KMail 3408 > mutt 1836 > The difference is due to the addition of the code below > at the end of the KMmail message. > = > Is this additional material a necessary consequence of using KMail? > or is it due to some configuration choice that I have inadvertently made? > = > Additional KMail code: > ------------------- > --nextPart1556732.TjKetOXzTr > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" > = > > weight:400; font-style:normal;"> >

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> --nextPart1556732.TjKetOXzTr-- > ------------------- --===============1888047762512537289== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEKCmlFWUVBUkVD QUFZRkFsUGpaeUVBQ2drUWhtQmp6Mzk0QW5rOTlRQ2dpNy9ld2pzWGRPTmE4R0hieFlWWmUwR1kK Vkl3QW1nUGREcjl2RmFCS3FzK1BZNGl0ekEyQWdXb0oKPVdTN2QKLS0tLS1FTkQgUEdQIFNJR05B VFVSRS0tLS0tCg== --===============1888047762512537289==-- From sudhir at sudhirkhanger.com Fri Jun 5 04:17:14 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7612677624707622924==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Sudhir Khanger To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: KMail bloat Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 17:51:28 +0530 Message-ID: <4891103.J2GEMNMeKN@fedora> In-Reply-To: 53E36721.6010302@thelounge.net --===============7612677624707622924== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday, August 07, 2014 01:46:41 PM Reindl Harald wrote: > just disable HTML mail There are HTML settings in Settings>Configure Kmail>Security>Reading. I am = not = sure if that also affects composition/sending emails. I find it pretty hard to use an Email client which doesn't show HTML otherw= ise = most emails would turn out to be block of html code and pictures with block- icon. -- = Sudhir Khanger, http://sudhirkhanger.com http://github.com/donniezazen --===============7612677624707622924==-- From pocallaghan at gmail.com Fri Jun 5 04:17:14 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5469422355331370228==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick O'Callaghan To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: KMail bloat Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 13:35:21 +0100 Message-ID: <1407414921.2143.27.camel@Bree.home> In-Reply-To: 4891103.J2GEMNMeKN@fedora --===============5469422355331370228== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:51 +0530, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > On Thursday, August 07, 2014 01:46:41 PM Reindl Harald wrote: > > just disable HTML mail > = > There are HTML settings in Settings>Configure Kmail>Security>Reading. I a= m not = > sure if that also affects composition/sending emails. > = > I find it pretty hard to use an Email client which doesn't show HTML othe= rwise = > most emails would turn out to be block of html code and pictures with blo= ck- > icon. > = Showing !=3D sending. poc --===============5469422355331370228==-- From h.reindl at thelounge.net Fri Jun 5 04:17:14 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2391793339667531682==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Reindl Harald To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: KMail bloat Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 14:36:47 +0200 Message-ID: <53E372DF.6090301@thelounge.net> In-Reply-To: 4891103.J2GEMNMeKN@fedora --===============2391793339667531682== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 07.08.2014 um 14:21 schrieb Sudhir Khanger: > On Thursday, August 07, 2014 01:46:41 PM Reindl Harald wrote: >> just disable HTML mail > = > There are HTML settings in Settings>Configure Kmail>Security>Reading. I a= m not = > sure if that also affects composition/sending emails. > = > I find it pretty hard to use an Email client which doesn't show HTML othe= rwise = > most emails would turn out to be block of html code and pictures with blo= ck- > icon nobody talks about *show* HTML i talk about the preferred format for composite mail in thunderbird it's just "mail.html_compose false" and if you want to write a HTML message press SHIFT while click at the compose cion --===============2391793339667531682== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEKCmlFWUVBUkVD QUFZRkFsUGpjdDhBQ2drUWhtQmp6Mzk0QW5uRlhBQ2VQOVpaV0tpOThEN3A3elhUYS9Vdjh1OW0K a2RnQW5peXA3MUV4a1dlZmNVb29UZGtqQXlJdVNNT1gKPXJLbEUKLS0tLS1FTkQgUEdQIFNJR05B VFVSRS0tLS0tCg== --===============2391793339667531682==-- From gayleard at alice.it Fri Jun 5 04:17:14 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2635666146897850868==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Timothy Murphy To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: KMail bloat Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:50:15 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 4891103.J2GEMNMeKN@fedora --===============2635666146897850868== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sudhir Khanger wrote: > On Thursday, August 07, 2014 01:46:41 PM Reindl Harald wrote: >> just disable HTML mail > = > There are HTML settings in Settings>Configure Kmail>Security>Reading. I am > not sure if that also affects composition/sending emails. I tried turning this off, and it had no effect on outgoing KMail email - I would have found it totally illogical if it did have an effect, since it seems to be explicitly concerned with Reading email. > I find it pretty hard to use an Email client which doesn't show HTML > otherwise most emails would turn out to be block of html code and pictures > with block- icon. I agree. I would like an email client that can _show_ HTML, but does not using it in _sending_ email unless requested. I have been assuming that KMail is such a client, if properly configured. I have found no setting in KMail that prevents HTML in outgoing email. If anyone knows where, or how, this can be turned off (even if it turns off HTML when reading email) I should be very grateful. I'm wondering if it could conceivably have something to do with KWrite, which seems to be the default KMail editor? (I couldn't find the KMail Handbook, if it exists?) -- = Timothy Murphy = e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland --===============2635666146897850868==-- From sudhir at sudhirkhanger.com Fri Jun 5 04:17:14 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2150306910832784018==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Sudhir Khanger To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: KMail bloat Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 20:19:04 +0530 Message-ID: <87985093.M3KCt6KDuy@fedora> In-Reply-To: ls006o$ska$1@ger.gmane.org --===============2150306910832784018== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday, August 07, 2014 03:50:15 PM Timothy Murphy wrote: > I would like an email client that can _show_ HTML, > but does not using it in _sending_ email unless requested. I agree. I have the same settings in Gmail. It shows html messages and uses = plain text for sending. I am sure Dan will reply soon with an answer. -- = Sudhir Khanger, http://sudhirkhanger.com http://github.com/donniezazen --===============2150306910832784018==-- From pocallaghan at gmail.com Fri Jun 5 04:17:14 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7039983783876874917==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick O'Callaghan To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: KMail bloat Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 16:42:21 +0100 Message-ID: <1407426141.2143.33.camel@Bree.home> In-Reply-To: ls006o$ska$1@ger.gmane.org --===============7039983783876874917== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 15:50 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > I find it pretty hard to use an Email client which doesn't show HTML > > otherwise most emails would turn out to be block of html code and > pictures > > with block- icon. > = > I agree. > I would like an email client that can _show_ HTML, > but does not using it in _sending_ email unless requested. > I have been assuming that KMail is such a client, > if properly configured. > = > I have found no setting in KMail that prevents HTML in outgoing email. > If anyone knows where, or how, this can be turned off > (even if it turns off HTML when reading email) > I should be very grateful. Evolution does it, as I'm sure do most other MUAs. I'd be very surprised if Kmail didn't also allow it. That would be reason enough to dump Kmail for something else. > I'm wondering if it could conceivably have something to do with > KWrite, > which seems to be the default KMail editor? > (I couldn't find the KMail Handbook, if it exists?) A quick look indicates that you can use an internal composer rather than Kwrite (look under Settings). I've no idea if this gets you plain text. poc --===============7039983783876874917==-- From boutilpj at ednet.ns.ca Fri Jun 5 04:17:15 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3098884834670605352==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Boutilier To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: KMail bloat Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 12:59:04 -0300 Message-ID: <53E3A248.5030600@ednet.ns.ca> In-Reply-To: 1407426141.2143.33.camel@Bree.home --===============3098884834670605352== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/07/2014 12:42 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 15:50 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> I find it pretty hard to use an Email client which doesn't show HTML >>> otherwise most emails would turn out to be block of html code and >> pictures >>> with block- icon. >> >> I agree. >> I would like an email client that can _show_ HTML, >> but does not using it in _sending_ email unless requested. >> I have been assuming that KMail is such a client, >> if properly configured. >> >> I have found no setting in KMail that prevents HTML in outgoing email. >> If anyone knows where, or how, this can be turned off >> (even if it turns off HTML when reading email) >> I should be very grateful. > > Evolution does it, as I'm sure do most other MUAs. I'd be very surprised > if Kmail didn't also allow it. That would be reason enough to dump Kmail > for something else. > >> I'm wondering if it could conceivably have something to do with >> KWrite, >> which seems to be the default KMail editor? >> (I couldn't find the KMail Handbook, if it exists?) > > A quick look indicates that you can use an internal composer rather than > Kwrite (look under Settings). I've no idea if this gets you plain text. > > poc In the compose window make sure the rich text button is clicked off. = Although just testing sending with the button clicked on but without = underlining/bolding/italicizing anything still sends as plain text for me. > > _______________________________________________ > kde mailing list > kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde > New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org > --===============3098884834670605352== Content-Type: text/x-vcard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="boutilpj.vcf" YmVnaW46dmNhcmQNCmZuOlBhdHJpY2sgQm91dGlsaWVyDQpuOkJvdXRpbGllcjtQYXRyaWNrDQpv cmc6O05vdmEgU2NvdGlhIERlcGFydG1lbnQgb2YgRWR1Y2F0aW9uDQphZHI6OzsyMDIxIEJydW5z d2ljayBTdHJlZXQ7SGFsaWZheDtOUztCM0sgMlk1O0NhbmFkYQ0KZW1haWw7aW50ZXJuZXQ6Ym91 dGlscGpAZWRuZXQubnMuY2ENCnRpdGxlOldBTiBDb21tdW5pY2F0aW9ucyBTcGVjaWFsaXN0DQp0 ZWw7d29yazo5MDItNDI0LTY4MDANCnRlbDtmYXg6OTAyLTQyNC0wODc0DQp2ZXJzaW9uOjIuMQ0K ZW5kOnZjYXJkDQoNCg== --===============3098884834670605352==-- From gayleard at alice.it Fri Jun 5 04:17:15 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2438314297756479584==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Timothy Murphy To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: KMail bloat Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 19:50:23 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 53E3A248.5030600@ednet.ns.ca --===============2438314297756479584== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Patrick Boutilier wrote: >>> I would like an email client that can _show_ HTML, >>> but does not using it in _sending_ email unless requested. >>> I have been assuming that KMail is such a client, >>> if properly configured. > In the compose window make sure the rich text button is clicked off. > Although just testing sending with the button clicked on but without > underlining/bolding/italicizing anything still sends as plain text for me. Thanks for your response. However, in Configure KMail=3D>Compose I don't see a "rich text button", and "rich text" does not seem to be mentioned in the Help page (Composer Page). The only references to HTML in the Compose window are: Reply or forward using HTML if present (which is not ticked); and Improve plain text version of HTML message (which is ticked). I should say that I am running KMail: 4.13.3 under Fedora-20. -- = Timothy Murphy = e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland --===============2438314297756479584==-- From boutilpj at ednet.ns.ca Fri Jun 5 04:17:15 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2813183242646057459==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Boutilier To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: KMail bloat Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 14:53:22 -0300 Message-ID: <53E3BD12.2060309@ednet.ns.ca> In-Reply-To: ls0e90$sm2$1@ger.gmane.org --===============2813183242646057459== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/07/2014 02:50 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Patrick Boutilier wrote: > >>>> I would like an email client that can _show_ HTML, >>>> but does not using it in _sending_ email unless requested. >>>> I have been assuming that KMail is such a client, >>>> if properly configured. > >> In the compose window make sure the rich text button is clicked off. >> Although just testing sending with the button clicked on but without >> underlining/bolding/italicizing anything still sends as plain text for m= e. > > Thanks for your response. > > However, in Configure KMail=3D>Compose I don't see a "rich text button", > and "rich text" does not seem to be mentioned in the Help page > (Composer Page). > > The only references to HTML in the Compose window are: > Reply or forward using HTML if present (which is not ticked); and > Improve plain text version of HTML message (which is ticked). > > I should say that I am running KMail: 4.13.3 under Fedora-20. > > Not in Settings but in the actual compose window itself. --===============2813183242646057459== Content-Type: text/x-vcard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="boutilpj.vcf" YmVnaW46dmNhcmQNCmZuOlBhdHJpY2sgQm91dGlsaWVyDQpuOkJvdXRpbGllcjtQYXRyaWNrDQpv cmc6O05vdmEgU2NvdGlhIERlcGFydG1lbnQgb2YgRWR1Y2F0aW9uDQphZHI6OzsyMDIxIEJydW5z d2ljayBTdHJlZXQ7SGFsaWZheDtOUztCM0sgMlk1O0NhbmFkYQ0KZW1haWw7aW50ZXJuZXQ6Ym91 dGlscGpAZWRuZXQubnMuY2ENCnRpdGxlOldBTiBDb21tdW5pY2F0aW9ucyBTcGVjaWFsaXN0DQp0 ZWw7d29yazo5MDItNDI0LTY4MDANCnRlbDtmYXg6OTAyLTQyNC0wODc0DQp2ZXJzaW9uOjIuMQ0K ZW5kOnZjYXJkDQoNCg== --===============2813183242646057459==-- From gayleard at alice.it Fri Jun 5 04:17:15 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4102917484820780749==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Timothy Murphy To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: KMail bloat Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 20:33:57 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: ls006o$ska$1@ger.gmane.org --===============4102917484820780749== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Timothy Murphy wrote: > I would like an email client that can _show_ HTML, > but does not using it in _sending_ email unless requested. > I have been assuming that KMail is such a client, > if properly configured. I've found the solution to my problem at last. When I click on New in the KMail window, to send a new email, I see "Rich Text Editing" under Options. This was On, presumably by default, and turning it Off has the desired effect - my email is now even smaller than under mutt! Thanks to all who helped me on the way. > I'm wondering if it could conceivably have something to do with KWrite, > which seems to be the default KMail editor? Not really relevant now, but I found it impossible to use an External Editor in place of KWrite. If I choose /usr/bin/vim or /usr/bin/nano it says the editor is opened, but I am unable to enter any text in the email body. -- = Timothy Murphy = e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland --===============4102917484820780749==-- From pocallaghan at gmail.com Fri Jun 5 04:17:15 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2340471775463827634==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick O'Callaghan To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: KMail bloat Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 00:04:23 +0100 Message-ID: <1407452663.2143.36.camel@Bree.home> In-Reply-To: ls0gqm$uu1$1@ger.gmane.org --===============2340471775463827634== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 20:33 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Not really relevant now, but I found it impossible to use an External > Editor > in place of KWrite. > If I choose /usr/bin/vim or /usr/bin/nano it says the editor is > opened, > but I am unable to enter any text in the email body. It may expect the editor to be an X program, whereas vim and nano are both console-based. Just a guess as I gave up on Kmail years ago. poc --===============2340471775463827634==-- From sudhir at sudhirkhanger.com Fri Jun 5 04:17:15 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3829896861063535623==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Sudhir Khanger To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: KMail bloat Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 09:49:58 +0530 Message-ID: <127973122.vImfBViktx@fedora> In-Reply-To: 1407452663.2143.36.camel@Bree.home --===============3829896861063535623== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Friday, August 08, 2014 12:04:23 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > It may expect the editor to be an X program, whereas vim and nano are > both console-based. There is GVim. A quick search also shows one could use some wrapper script to load Vim in Konsole. I didn't know about this feature. Writing emails in plain text in Emacs is just awesome. I need to figure out how to launch a client of Emacs with necessary modes. -- = Sudhir Khanger, http://sudhirkhanger.com http://github.com/donniezazen --===============3829896861063535623==-- From pocallaghan at gmail.com Fri Jun 5 04:17:15 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4238943031491259835==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick O'Callaghan To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: KMail bloat Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 10:37:00 +0100 Message-ID: <1407490620.2160.1.camel@Bree.home> In-Reply-To: 127973122.vImfBViktx@fedora --===============4238943031491259835== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2014-08-08 at 09:49 +0530, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > On Friday, August 08, 2014 12:04:23 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > It may expect the editor to be an X program, whereas vim and nano are > > both console-based. > = > There is GVim. A quick search also shows one could use some wrapper > script to load Vim in Konsole. > = > I didn't know about this feature. Writing emails in plain text in > Emacs is just awesome. I need to figure out how to launch a client of > Emacs with necessary modes. > = It's a long time since I've done it but you can also use Emacs itself as a mail client, IIRC with MH-E or MULE modes (and possibly others). poc --===============4238943031491259835==-- From sudhir at sudhirkhanger.com Fri Jun 5 04:17:15 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6136355989569746342==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Sudhir Khanger To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: KMail bloat Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 15:49:24 +0530 Message-ID: <2028995.oo5gNcxoUc@fedora> In-Reply-To: 1407490620.2160.1.camel@Bree.home --===============6136355989569746342== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Friday, August 08, 2014 10:37:00 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > It's a long time since I've done it but you can also use Emacs itself as > a mail client, IIRC with MH-E or MULE modes (and possibly others). Yeah, there is Gnus for email. I have to give Gnus, IRC and RSS reader a try in Emacs. = -- = Sudhir Khanger, http://sudhirkhanger.com http://github.com/donniezazen --===============6136355989569746342==-- From rz at linux-m68k.org Fri Jun 5 04:17:15 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1931256311288115259==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Z To: kde at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: KMail bloat Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:57:47 +0200 Message-ID: <20140810105747.GC23357@rz.localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: 127973122.vImfBViktx@fedora --===============1931256311288115259== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 09:49:58AM +0530, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > On Friday, August 08, 2014 12:04:23 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > It may expect the editor to be an X program, whereas vim and nano are > > both console-based. > = > There is GVim. A quick search also shows one could use some wrapper > script to load Vim in Konsole. > = > I didn't know about this feature. Writing emails in plain text in > Emacs is just awesome. I need to figure out how to launch a client of > Emacs with necessary modes. for Xemacs I use gnuclient, the modes can be set by eg guessing based on temporary file name. I use mutt though. Richard --- Name and OpenPGP keys available from pgp key servers --===============1931256311288115259==--