Re: KDE Live can be installed without creating a regular user - correct/wrong?

[Troy Dawson]

On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 7:12 AM Troy Dawson <tdawson(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 3:24 AM Kamil Paral <kparal(a)redhat.com&gt;
> wrote:
>
> > KDE Live can be installed without creating a regular user, only root. All
> > you need to do is to not create a regular user in anaconda (only root), and
> > then not create a regular user in the first boot utility (just click
> > Finish). In SSDM, it is then possible to log in using the root account (not
> > a good idea in general, to be sure).
> >
> > Is this intentional, or a bug? Should KDE require creating a regular
> > user, similarly to Workstation?
> >
>
>  I believe this is part of the fundamental difference between KDE and GNOME.
>  GNOME locks you into things and you have no control over alot of things.
>  KDE allows you much for flexibility and lets you create your machine your
>  way.
>
>  The Fedora Workstation Live CD install has modified the installer so you
>  have a very limited set of things you can do. (3 things)
>  The KDE Live CD allows you to configure your machine more how you want (6
>  things)/
>
>  I love the "all you need to do" in your wording.
>  In reality, you have to create a root user during install (which is not
>  default), and not create a user.  So you've made a choice there.
>  You then have to not create a user on startup, it is literally right
>  there.  It is easier to click the create user than the Finish button.
>  Again, another choice.
>  When you get to the SDDM login screen, root is not listed.  No user is
>  listed.  So you have to know to put in 'root' and the password.
>  At this point, you have shown that you know who root is, and have
>  deliberately setup your machine to run only as root.
>
>  So in reality the question you are asking is this.
>  "Is it ok for root to login and run graphically?"
>  I'm not saying this question is not important, it is important.
>  But, this is a very old question, and one that GNOME and KDE diverged on
>  years ago.
>  Currently, KDE allows you to login graphically as root.
>  That is intentional.
>
>  Troy
>  p.s. I'm not saying it won't change, that's what I said
> "currently"
>  
I'm sorry, I hadn't done enough testing before I wrote everything above.
GNOME (and gdm) does allow you to log in graphically as root.
Do a normal workstation install.
Set the root password.
Log-out or reboot.
Click "not-listed" - then login as root, and it comes up.
I do like that when you login to GNOME, a notification says that you are
running as a privileged user.
I didn't see that notification in KDE, or at least it wasn't as prominent
as GNOME's was.

Troy