i'm new to fedora, let alone fedora 11.
i've installed the full version of fedora 11 and by default got the gnome desktop.
i've done teh yum install system-switch-desktopmanager and switched to kde
i've gone to and downloaded the kde package
i've restarted and get the kde login but when i log into my user i get only screen with a terminal box in the bottom right corner.
i've logged into to su, and cd /etc/sysconfig and nano my desktop file and it has desktop=kde and displaymanager=kde.
how do i get the kde desktop?
when i log out and log in as root, it works fine. only as the user do i get the terminal box.
please help.
charles
2009/6/24 Charles J Smith III charles@wowservices.net:
i've done teh yum install system-switch-desktopmanager and switched to kde i've gone to and downloaded the kde package how do i get the kde desktop?
yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)"
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Thomas Janssenthomasj@fedoraproject.org wrote:
yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)"
Run that command in a terminal window and make sure to do so as root or it will complain.
-Adam
i've tried the command and here's the result. keep in mind that the kde desktop works if i login in as root, just not when i log in as user
[root@III III] yum groupinstall kde
loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
setting up group process
warning: group kde does not exist.
no packagess in any requested group available to install or update
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:55:01 -0500 Subject: Re: help From: maxamillion@gmail.com To: fedora-kde@lists.fedoraproject.org
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Thomas Janssenthomasj@fedoraproject.org wrote:
yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)"
Run that command in a terminal window and make sure to do so as root or it will complain.
-Adam
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On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 10:13 -0500, Charles J Smith III wrote:
i've tried the command and here's the result. keep in mind that the kde desktop works if i login in as root, just not when i log in as user
Read the previous answers again *carefully*. No-one told you to do "yum groupinstall kde".
And please 1) don't top-post on this list, and 2) don't post in HTML. See the Guidelines.
poc
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 17:13:37 Charles J Smith III wrote:
i've tried the command and here's the result. keep in mind that the kde desktop works if i login in as root, just not when i log in as user
[root@III III] yum groupinstall kde
It's not "kde" group but "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
Yes, I don't like it :D And KDE is going through some changes, as it's not a desktop now but KDE community with KDE workspace, applications, people...
Try to change session in GDM/KDM (the login screen). It's preferred way to change it for user.
Jaroslav
loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
setting up group process
warning: group kde does not exist.
no packagess in any requested group available to install or update
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:55:01 -0500 Subject: Re: help From: maxamillion@gmail.com To: fedora-kde@lists.fedoraproject.org
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Thomas
Janssenthomasj@fedoraproject.org wrote:
yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)"
Run that command in a terminal window and make sure to do so as root or it will complain.
-Adam
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here's a strange one...
while waiting for the reply, i logged in as root and created a new user to see if i could duplicate the same issue with just a terminal box in the bottom right corner. i restarted and that user worked perfectly, kde desktop came up smoothly. so i logged out and went back in as my original user and it worked perfectly as well. go figure. i know this isn't a fix but it appears to working fine.
thanks for all your help, its been greatly appreciated.
charles
From: jreznik@redhat.com To: fedora-kde@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: help Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:18:50 +0200
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 17:13:37 Charles J Smith III wrote:
i've tried the command and here's the result. keep in mind that the kde desktop works if i login in as root, just not when i log in as user
[root@III III] yum groupinstall kde
It's not "kde" group but "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
Yes, I don't like it :D And KDE is going through some changes, as it's not a desktop now but KDE community with KDE workspace, applications, people...
Try to change session in GDM/KDM (the login screen). It's preferred way to change it for user.
Jaroslav
loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
setting up group process
warning: group kde does not exist.
no packagess in any requested group available to install or update
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:55:01 -0500 Subject: Re: help From: maxamillion@gmail.com To: fedora-kde@lists.fedoraproject.org
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Thomas
Janssenthomasj@fedoraproject.org wrote:
yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)"
Run that command in a terminal window and make sure to do so as root or it will complain.
-Adam
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On 06/24/2009 10:29 AM, Charles J Smith III wrote:
here's a strange one... while waiting for the reply, i logged in as root and created a new user to see if i could duplicate the same issue with just a terminal box in the bottom right corner. i restarted and that user worked perfectly, kde desktop came up smoothly. so i logged out and went back in as my original user and it worked perfectly as well. go figure. i know this isn't a fix but it appears to working fine.
My guess is that you may have selected the "KDE (failsafe session)" the first time.
-- Rex
2009/6/24 Jaroslav Reznik jreznik@redhat.com
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 17:13:37 Charles J Smith III wrote:
i've tried the command and here's the result. keep in mind that the kde desktop works if i login in as root, just not when i log in as user
[root@III III] yum groupinstall kde
It's not "kde" group but "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
Actually instead of using that long name you could also use the comps group identifier which is kde-desktop. The following would work just as well.
yum groupinstall kde-desktop
Yes, I don't like it :D And KDE is going through some changes, as it's not a desktop now but KDE community with KDE workspace, applications, people...
Try to change session in GDM/KDM (the login screen). It's preferred way to change it for user.
Jaroslav
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 16:40 +0100, John5342 wrote:
It's not "kde" group but "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
Actually instead of using that long name you could also use the comps group identifier which is kde-desktop. The following would work just as well.
yum groupinstall kde-desktop
How would the average user be able to discover that, starting from the yum manpage?
poc
2009/6/24 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com:
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 16:40 +0100, John5342 wrote:
It's not "kde" group but "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
Actually instead of using that long name you could also use the comps group identifier which is kde-desktop. The following would work just as well.
yum groupinstall kde-desktop
How would the average user be able to discover that, starting from the yum manpage?
Well, the average user might not find that. You can do: python /usr/lib/python*/site-packages/yum/comps.py <(zcat /var/cache/yum/fedora/*comps*) | less
Suggestions for other ways welcome.
Thomas Janssen schrieb:
Well, the average user might not find that. You can do: python /usr/lib/python*/site-packages/yum/comps.py <(zcat /var/cache/yum/fedora/*comps*) | less
Suggestions for other ways welcome.
# yum grouplist
I'm on centos but this should work as well on F10/11.
Rainer
2009/6/25 Rainer Traut tr.ml@gmx.de:
Thomas Janssen schrieb:
Well, the average user might not find that. You can do: python /usr/lib/python*/site-packages/yum/comps.py <(zcat /var/cache/yum/fedora/*comps*) | less
Suggestions for other ways welcome.
# yum grouplist
Well, heh, run that command please. It will show you all the stuff possible including what you get if you install it, like: yum install @german-support Thats not what you get with yum grouplist. But it seems there is no list of all the @foo-stuff you can browse easily. Maybe i should make one.
I'm on centos but this should work as well on F10/11.
Sure it does.
2009/6/24 John5342 john5342@googlemail.com:
2009/6/24 Jaroslav Reznik jreznik@redhat.com
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 17:13:37 Charles J Smith III wrote:
i've tried the command and here's the result. keep in mind that the kde desktop works if i login in as root, just not when i log in as user
[root@III III] yum groupinstall kde
It's not "kde" group but "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
Actually instead of using that long name you could also use the comps group identifier which is kde-desktop. The following would work just as well.
yum groupinstall kde-desktop
Well, you can do as well: yum install @kde-desktop
I just gave him something he can find easily with yum grouplist.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Thomas Janssenthomasj@fedoraproject.org wrote:
2009/6/24 John5342 john5342@googlemail.com:
2009/6/24 Jaroslav Reznik jreznik@redhat.com
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 17:13:37 Charles J Smith III wrote:
i've tried the command and here's the result. keep in mind that the kde desktop works if i login in as root, just not when i log in as user
[root@III III] yum groupinstall kde
It's not "kde" group but "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
Actually instead of using that long name you could also use the comps group identifier which is kde-desktop. The following would work just as well.
yum groupinstall kde-desktop
Well, you can do as well: yum install @kde-desktop
I just gave him something he can find easily with yum grouplist.
He can't, which is why I asked the question. "yum grouplist" does not list kde-desktop as a group name.
poc
2009/6/24 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Thomas Janssenthomasj@fedoraproject.org wrote:
2009/6/24 John5342 john5342@googlemail.com:
2009/6/24 Jaroslav Reznik jreznik@redhat.com
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 17:13:37 Charles J Smith III wrote:
i've tried the command and here's the result. keep in mind that the kde desktop works if i login in as root, just not when i log in as user
[root@III III] yum groupinstall kde
It's not "kde" group but "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
Actually instead of using that long name you could also use the comps group identifier which is kde-desktop. The following would work just as well.
yum groupinstall kde-desktop
Well, you can do as well: yum install @kde-desktop
I just gave him something he can find easily with yum grouplist.
He can't, which is why I asked the question. "yum grouplist" does not list kde-desktop as a group name.
You might confuse something. I wasn't answering your question here. I was the one who answered the OP as first with the correct yum groupinstall instruction. Then we got two shorter sentences to do the same. None was wrong.
So my statement "I just gave him something he can find easily with yum grouplist." was correct. I did gave him that in my first post.
But you got two other answers to your question. One from Diego and i sent you one.
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 21:42 +0200, Thomas Janssen wrote:
2009/6/24 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Thomas Janssenthomasj@fedoraproject.org wrote:
2009/6/24 John5342 john5342@googlemail.com:
2009/6/24 Jaroslav Reznik jreznik@redhat.com
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 17:13:37 Charles J Smith III wrote:
i've tried the command and here's the result. keep in mind that the kde desktop works if i login in as root, just not when i log in as user
[root@III III] yum groupinstall kde
It's not "kde" group but "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
Actually instead of using that long name you could also use the comps group identifier which is kde-desktop. The following would work just as well.
yum groupinstall kde-desktop
Well, you can do as well: yum install @kde-desktop
I just gave him something he can find easily with yum grouplist.
He can't, which is why I asked the question. "yum grouplist" does not list kde-desktop as a group name.
You might confuse something. I wasn't answering your question here. I was the one who answered the OP as first with the correct yum groupinstall instruction. Then we got two shorter sentences to do the same. None was wrong.
So my statement "I just gave him something he can find easily with yum grouplist." was correct. I did gave him that in my first post.
But you got two other answers to your question. One from Diego and i sent you one.
The question was how to discover the alternate name starting from the yum manual page. The correct answer is that the -v option is documented in the man page (though the user would need some imagination to see that this is useful here, given that it describes the option in terms of groupids, which are not defined).
Of course the real question is "why is the KDE environment group not simply called KDE?", but that's a horse of a different colour.
poc
2009/6/24 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Thomas Janssenthomasj@fedoraproject.org wrote:
2009/6/24 John5342 john5342@googlemail.com:
2009/6/24 Jaroslav Reznik jreznik@redhat.com
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 17:13:37 Charles J Smith III wrote:
i've tried the command and here's the result. keep in mind that the
kde
desktop works if i login in as root, just not when i log in as user
[root@III III] yum groupinstall kde
It's not "kde" group but "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
Actually instead of using that long name you could also use the comps
group
identifier which is kde-desktop. The following would work just as well.
yum groupinstall kde-desktop
Well, you can do as well: yum install @kde-desktop
I just gave him something he can find easily with yum grouplist.
He can't, which is why I asked the question. "yum grouplist" does not list kde-desktop as a group name.
It isnt directly listed. It is just a shorter version that is less prone to mis-typing etc. No more right or wrong than anyone elses answer. However to answer your question the name can be seen using "yum grouplist -v".
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 21:06 +0100, John5342 wrote:
2009/6/24 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Thomas Janssenthomasj@fedoraproject.org wrote:
> 2009/6/24 John5342 <john5342@googlemail.com>: >> 2009/6/24 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik@redhat.com> >>> >>> On Wednesday 24 June 2009 17:13:37 Charles J Smith III wrote: >>> > i've tried the command and here's the result. keep in mind that the kde >>> > desktop works if i login in as root, just not when i log in as user >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > [root@III III] yum groupinstall kde >>> >>> It's not "kde" group but "KDE (K Desktop Environment)". >> >> Actually instead of using that long name you could also use the comps group >> identifier which is kde-desktop. The following would work just as well. >> >> yum groupinstall kde-desktop > > Well, you can do as well: yum install @kde-desktop > > I just gave him something he can find easily with yum grouplist. He can't, which is why I asked the question. "yum grouplist" does not list kde-desktop as a group name.It isnt directly listed. It is just a shorter version that is less prone to mis-typing etc. No more right or wrong than anyone elses answer. However to answer your question the name can be seen using "yum grouplist -v".
OK, that I believe.
poc
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