kde buggy, trying out cinnamon

[Neal Becker]

I'm finding kde has become too buggy.  Frustrations are:
1. windows don't respect panel, fullscreen windows will go under the panel.
2. power management has become very flaky.  When on battery, configuration 
is to dim, and after some time suspend.  screen does dim (totally!), but 
does not respond when keys/mouse touched.  Instead, only Fn+f6 will turn on 
the screen. Suspend seems to have broken.
3. screenlock is configured to activate after 10 minutes.  It has stopped 
working (never activates).

So I decided to try cinnamon.  It seems much less buggy.  Almost perfect in 
most respects, although I don't like that I can't see all the apps on all 
the workspaces in the taskbar, as in kde.  Makes switching a lot less 
pleasant. Power management seems to work fine.

But cinnamon seems to have a deal-breaking issue for me.  The fonts on KDE 
look much better.  I can't understand why.

I do have this .fonts.conf:

<?xml version='1.0'?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM 'fonts.dtd'>
<fontconfig>
 <match target="pattern">
  <edit name="dpi" mode="assign">96</edit>
 </match>
 <match target="font">
  <edit mode="assign" name="antialias">
   <bool>true</bool>
  </edit>
 </match>
 <match target="font">
  <edit mode="assign" name="hinting">
   <bool>true</bool>
  </edit>
 </match>
 <match target="font">
  <edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle">
   <const>hintslight</const>
  </edit>
 </match>
 <match target="font">
  <edit mode="assign" name="rgba">
   <const>rgb</const>
  </edit>
 </match>
 <match target="font">
  <edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter">
   <const>lcddefault</const>
  </edit>
 </match>
 <dir>~/.fonts</dir>
</fontconfig>

[Gerald B. Cox]

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:
> So I decided to try cinnamon.  It seems much less buggy.  Almost perfect in
> most respects, although I don't like that I can't see all the apps on all
> the workspaces in the taskbar, as in kde.  Makes switching a lot less
> pleasant. Power management seems to work fine.

You may want to give LXQt a try... it is qt based, can use kwin.  I've been
flipping back and forth between LXQt and Plasma when I encounter issues
with Plasma.  Regarding Plasma... current release for me has been great so
far... the annoying hang issue seems to have been resolved (knock on wood)
and the upcoming 5.6 from what I have read so far is extremely nice.

[Sudhir Khanger]

---- On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 19:06:00 +0530 Neal Becker <[e-mail]>wrote ----

I'm finding kde has become too buggy. Frustrations are:

1. windows don't respect panel, fullscreen windows will go under the panel.

I am yet to see this fixed for Kontact. I have not seen any activity in the bug report. Best thing would be is to file bug reports as you encounter such problem.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353805

2. power management has become very flaky. When on battery, configuration

is to dim, and after some time suspend. screen does dim (totally!), but

does not respond when keys/mouse touched. Instead, only Fn+f6 will turn on

the screen. Suspend seems to have broken.

I have also noticed system encountering sudden shutdown instead of suspend or hibernation as directed in the power management. This could also be a kernel problem. Screen brightness problems are often a kernel problem. One thing I am sure is that Chrome now has ability to inhibit power management which I think misbehaves from time to time.

3. screenlock is configured to activate after 10 minutes. It has stopped

working (never activates).

Not even with Ctrl+Alt+L?

So I decided to try cinnamon. It seems much less buggy. Almost perfect in

most respects, although I don't like that I can't see all the apps on all

the workspaces in the taskbar, as in kde. Makes switching a lot less

pleasant. Power management seems to work fine.

But cinnamon seems to have a deal-breaking issue for me. The fonts on KDE

look much better. I can't understand why.

I do have this .fonts.conf:

<?xml version='1.0'?>

<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM 'fonts.dtd'>

<fontconfig>

<match target="pattern">

<edit name="dpi" mode="assign">96</edit>

</match>

<match target="font">

<edit mode="assign" name="antialias">

<bool>true</bool>

</edit>

</match>

<match target="font">

<edit mode="assign" name="hinting">

<bool>true</bool>

</edit>

</match>

<match target="font">

<edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle">

<const>hintslight</const>

</edit>

</match>

<match target="font">

<edit mode="assign" name="rgba">

<const>rgb</const>

</edit>

</match>

<match target="font">

<edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter">

<const>lcddefault</const>

</edit>

</match>

<dir>~/.fonts</dir>

</fontconfig>

The config looks about right to me. Nothing out of ordinary. Maybe try setting up ~/.Xresources.

Regards,
Sudhir Khanger,
sudhirkhanger.com.

[Sérgio Basto]

Hi,
You may try out the old kde4 on Fedora 22 and 23 
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/peem/kde4-fedora/builds/

I use my own repo : https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/sergiomb/vb
oxfor23/builds/ , it very similar of peem repo but is not updated and  
need --exclude=oxygen-icon-theme)

In F24 you may try hawaii-desktop 
dnf install @hawaii-desktop 
references: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Hawaii_Desktop#User_Experience

On Seg, 2016-03-28 at 09:36 -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
> I'm finding kde has become too buggy.  Frustrations are:
> windows don't respect panel, fullscreen windows will go under the
>
> panel.
> 2. power management has become very flaky.  When on battery,
> configuration 
> is to dim, and after some time suspend.  screen does dim (totally!),
> but 
> does not respond when keys/mouse touched.  Instead, only Fn+f6 will
> turn on 
> the screen. Suspend seems to have broken.
> 3. screenlock is configured to activate after 10 minutes.  It has
> stopped 
> working (never activates).
>
> So I decided to try cinnamon.  It seems much less buggy.  Almost
> perfect in 
> most respects, although I don't like that I can't see all the apps on
> all 
> the workspaces in the taskbar, as in kde.  Makes switching a lot
> less 
> pleasant. Power management seems to work fine.
>
> But cinnamon seems to have a deal-breaking issue for me.  The fonts
> on KDE 
> look much better.  I can't understand why.
>
> I do have this .fonts.conf:
>
> <?xml version='1.0'?>
>
> <!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM 'fonts.dtd'>
>
> <fontconfig>
>  <match target="pattern">
>   <edit name="dpi" mode="assign">96</edit>
>  </match>
>  <match target="font">
>   <edit mode="assign" name="antialias">
>    <bool>true</bool>
>   </edit>
>  </match>
>  <match target="font">
>   <edit mode="assign" name="hinting">
>    <bool>true</bool>
>   </edit>
>  </match>
>  <match target="font">
>   <edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle">
>    <const>hintslight</const>
>   </edit>
>  </match>
>  <match target="font">
>   <edit mode="assign" name="rgba">
>    <const>rgb</const>
>   </edit>
>  </match>
>  <match target="font">
>   <edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter">
>    <const>lcddefault</const>
>   </edit>
>  </match>
>  <dir>~/.fonts</dir>
> </fontconfig>
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