I wanted to check if anyone else is seeing this: I'm running Fedora 11(-to-be) with (as far as I know) the default pulseaudio configuration. Sometimes when I log in -- I'd say over 50% of the time but I'm not sure -- everything basically freezes (mouse moves, menus work, but nothing starts) for over a minute. Then I get a dialogue box titled "Removed Sound Devices" that says:
KDE detected that one or more internal sound devices were removed.
*Do you want KDE to permanently forget about these devices?*
This is the list of devices KDE thinks can be removed: - Output: PulseAudio Sound Server
(Sometimes the device is "Capture: Default" instead.)
Is this just me? I've realised I've been ignoring it for a while because it only seems to happen on login so I forget about it after that, but it probably does deserve some investigation...
Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
I wanted to check if anyone else is seeing this: I'm running Fedora 11(-to-be) with (as far as I know) the default pulseaudio configuration. Sometimes when I log in -- I'd say over 50% of the time but I'm not sure -- everything basically freezes (mouse moves, menus work, but nothing starts) for over a minute. Then I get a dialogue box titled "Removed Sound Devices" that says:
KDE detected that one or more internal sound devices were removed.
*Do you want KDE to permanently forget about these devices?*
In general, the name(s) of devices sometimes change on kernel/driver updates, and in my experience, it's safe to say "yes" to that question, else, you'll continue to get it on each subsequent login.
-- Rex
Rex Dieter wrote:
Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
I wanted to check if anyone else is seeing this: I'm running Fedora 11(-to-be) with (as far as I know) the default pulseaudio configuration. Sometimes when I log in -- I'd say over 50% of the time but I'm not sure -- everything basically freezes (mouse moves, menus work, but nothing starts) for over a minute. Then I get a dialogue box titled "Removed Sound Devices" that says:
KDE detected that one or more internal sound devices were removed.
*Do you want KDE to permanently forget about these devices?*
In general, the name(s) of devices sometimes change on kernel/driver updates, and in my experience, it's safe to say "yes" to that question, else, you'll continue to get it on each subsequent login.
<aside>It's one of those times where kde may have err'd on the side of providing too much information, and asking a question where a vast majority of users won't be able to answer.</aside>
-- Rex
On Thursday 28 May 2009 15:03:57 Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
I wanted to check if anyone else is seeing this: I'm running Fedora 11(-to-be) with (as far as I know) the default pulseaudio configuration. Sometimes when I log in -- I'd say over 50% of the time but I'm not sure -- everything basically freezes (mouse moves, menus work, but nothing starts) for over a minute. Then I get a dialogue box titled "Removed Sound Devices" that says:
KDE detected that one or more internal sound devices were removed.
*Do you want KDE to permanently forget about these devices?*
This is the list of devices KDE thinks can be removed: - Output: PulseAudio Sound Server
(Sometimes the device is "Capture: Default" instead.)
Is this just me? I've realised I've been ignoring it for a while because it only seems to happen on login so I forget about it after that, but it probably does deserve some investigation...
I get this rarely when entering kde but the display is not frozen and if I ignore it it will continue with no problems.
FWIW I had this behaviour yesterday after upgrading to kde 4.3 beta 1. I have never understood the reason and since it is very difficult to reproduce and a minor annoyance I have ignored it. :-)
2009/5/28 José Matos jamatos@fc.up.pt:
I get this rarely when entering kde but the display is not frozen and if I ignore it it will continue with no problems.
What I mean by "freezes" -- if I try to start any applications from the menu or the panel, they don't come up until after the "Removed sound devices" window, and if I'm using wireless the KDE weather plasmoid doesn't show any content until the window comes up either. It's not frozen precisely, but it's not really possible to do anything useful until the sound-device window comes up.
I'll try "forget permanently" next time it happens and see if that makes it go away. I suppose this should go in bugzilla somewhere ...
MEF
2009/5/28 Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler@chello.at:
Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
This is the list of devices KDE thinks can be removed: - Output: PulseAudio Sound Server
Hmmm, that's the ALSA PulseAudio plugin, Phonon doesn't seem to understand that that's nor a hardware device.
At the moment, in my "Multimedia" KCM, I have the following entries for output: - PulseAudio - HDA Intel (STAC92xx Analog) - Default - HDA Intel, INTEL HDMI (HDMI Audio Output) - PulseAudio Sound Server (currently greyed out) - Jack Audio Connection Kit - Esound (ESD) If I check "Show advanced devices", a new item appears above "Default": - HDA Intel (INTEL HDMI)
For capture, the list is a bit shorter: - HDA Intel (STAC92xx Analog) - PulseAudio Sound Server - Default
How many of these are necessary or even make sense? It's very confusing (and the "Help" button is greyed out too, to make it even more fun).
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