Is there a working Bluetooth setup under KDE-4.5?
I've downloaded all the relevant packages, as far as I can see, but none of them seem to provide a file /etc/hcid.conf , which according to the (rather old) documentation I have seen is a vital component of Linux Bluetooth.
There doesn't seem to be any documentation at all for kbluetooth, and it is not clear to me (no bluetooth expert) how it is meant to work, or what service it provides.
Any elucidation (or pointer to documentation) gratefully received.
On Wednesday, January 19, 2011 01:40:50 pm Timothy Murphy wrote:
Is there a working Bluetooth setup under KDE-4.5?
I've downloaded all the relevant packages, as far as I can see, but none of them seem to provide a file /etc/hcid.conf , which according to the (rather old) documentation I have seen is a vital component of Linux Bluetooth.
There doesn't seem to be any documentation at all for kbluetooth, and it is not clear to me (no bluetooth expert) how it is meant to work, or what service it provides.
Any elucidation (or pointer to documentation) gratefully received.
Hi, Rawhide/Fedora 15 contains new BlueDevil stack. It's actually much more better than kbluetooth - but some people reports kbluetooth works better for them.
We are preparing BlueDevil for kde-rh unofficial repositories as we do not want to break Fedora 14 setups. It's still under development (but already released as stable one).
Another possibility is to try BlueMan - Gnome based utility. It works quite well - to find and setup all devices but I cane see one crash per hour :)
Jaroslav
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
Rawhide/Fedora 15 contains new BlueDevil stack. It's actually much more better than kbluetooth - but some people reports kbluetooth works better for them.
Thanks for the info. I've never heard of BlueDevil, but will give it a try. I take it that it is an alternative to bluez?
What I find puzzling about bluez is that while I see from http://www.bluez.org/ that there are ongoing developments (5 or 6 updates in December 2010 and January 2011) there does not seem to be any documentation explaining what changes have been made, which appear to include removal of hcid.conf .
Two IRC channels are mentioned, #bluez and #bluez-users , but both seem to be deserted.
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net wrote:
Thanks for the info. I've never heard of BlueDevil, but will give it a try. I take it that it is an alternative to bluez?
AFAIK, BlueZ is now dead. BlueDevil will be taking over the KDE stack.
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On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 22:00, Chris Smart mail@christophersmart.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net wrote:
Thanks for the info. I've never heard of BlueDevil, but will give it a try. I take it that it is an alternative to bluez?
AFAIK, BlueZ is now dead. BlueDevil will be taking over the KDE stack.
AFAIK BlueZ is not dead. BlueZ is the Linux bluetooth stack that other programs use to access bluetooth devices. For a long time that program has been kbluetooth. Kbluetooth has never worked very well since a BlueZ stack update a while back (a couple of releases i believe) and apparently it's so full of hacks that nobody could be bothered to rewrite it so it's just been bodged to work (that's what i heard anyway). In the meantime BlueDevil has come along which aside from being better written also sports much better integration with the KDE environment. BlueDevil is still young and i have had a few problems with it so far but is certainly looking promising.
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:11 AM, John5342 john5342@gmail.com wrote:
AFAIK BlueZ is not dead. BlueZ is the Linux bluetooth stack that other
Sorry, that's what I meant, kdebluetooth is dead.. bluedevil is taking over.
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On Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:34:33 am Chris Smart wrote:
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:11 AM, John5342 john5342@gmail.com wrote:
AFAIK BlueZ is not dead. BlueZ is the Linux bluetooth stack that other
Sorry, that's what I meant, kdebluetooth is dead.. bluedevil is taking over.
Exactly!
Jaroslav.
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On Wednesday, January 19, 2011 07:40:50 am Timothy Murphy wrote:
Is there a working Bluetooth setup under KDE-4.5?
Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but I was able to transfer files back and forth from my laptop to my rather old Nokia phone with kbluetooth (it discovered and paired the device). And that fulfills my needs at this point, so I'm rather happy with it :)
AC
Armelius Cameron wrote:
Is there a working Bluetooth setup under KDE-4.5?
Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but I was able to transfer files back and forth from my laptop to my rather old Nokia phone with kbluetooth (it discovered and paired the device). And that fulfills my needs at this point, so I'm rather happy with it :)
That is exactly what I want to do. How exactly did you do it? (Assume you are talking to an idiot!)
I could run kbluetooth, and paired my laptop and phone (Nokia 6303c), but I didn't know what to do beyond that point. When I ran gnokii a couple of years ago I had to start by modifying /etc/hcid.conf , but this no longer seems to exist.
Incidentally, I tried BlueDevil from http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=207061, but this would not allow me to pair by putting in my 10-digit passkey as it would only allow 7 or 8 digits to be inserted.
On Friday, January 21, 2011 03:47:16 am Timothy Murphy wrote:
Armelius Cameron wrote:
Is there a working Bluetooth setup under KDE-4.5?
Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but I was able to transfer files back and forth from my laptop to my rather old Nokia phone with kbluetooth (it discovered and paired the device). And that fulfills my needs at this point, so I'm rather happy with it :)
That is exactly what I want to do. How exactly did you do it? (Assume you are talking to an idiot!)
I could run kbluetooth, and paired my laptop and phone (Nokia 6303c), but I didn't know what to do beyond that point. When I ran gnokii a couple of years ago I had to start by modifying /etc/hcid.conf , but this no longer seems to exist.
You really don't need to edit anything when using kbluetooth. If so, it's bug. It should work out of box (should with kbluetooth).
Incidentally, I tried BlueDevil from http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=207061, but this would not allow me to pair by putting in my 10-digit passkey as it would only allow 7 or 8 digits to be inserted.
Ops, would be great to report it to BlueDevil developers to let then know. I can take a look too.
Jaroslav
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 09:47:16 pm Timothy Murphy wrote:
Armelius Cameron wrote:
Is there a working Bluetooth setup under KDE-4.5?
Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but I was able to transfer files back and forth from my laptop to my rather old Nokia phone with kbluetooth (it discovered and paired the device). And that fulfills my needs at this point, so I'm rather happy with it :)
That is exactly what I want to do. How exactly did you do it? (Assume you are talking to an idiot!)
I could run kbluetooth, and paired my laptop and phone (Nokia 6303c), but I didn't know what to do beyond that point.
Hi Tim,
I am talking from memory here (laptop is at home ATM, I can check again tonight)
Somewhere in Device Management (right click on kbluetooth), you should see your phone's Mac address. I think I needed to hit "Trusted" or something like that to make it work. You can also Name the device.
If you right click on the kbluetooth icon, and then Send File, and browse & pick the file, after that it should start searching for device. I think your phone would show up, and then just pick that as the device to send to. Does that not work for you ?
AC
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