From the usb-notifier widget, I'm offered options, one of which is to open in dolphin. Suddenly I'm finding that it doesn't do that - it opens in konqueror. After my holiday there has been a very large update, so I've no clue what might have caused this change.
Ideas?
Anne
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:04 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
From the usb-notifier widget, I'm offered options, one of which is to open in dolphin. Suddenly I'm finding that it doesn't do that - it opens in konqueror. After my holiday there has been a very large update, so I've no clue what might have caused this change.
I'm fully up to date with F11 and it does mount pendrives etc. with Dolphin. Perhaps you could try from a clean user account and see what happens.
poc
On Wednesday 13 May 2009 20:09:47 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:04 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
From the usb-notifier widget, I'm offered options, one of which is to open in dolphin. Suddenly I'm finding that it doesn't do that - it opens in konqueror. After my holiday there has been a very large update, so I've no clue what might have caused this change.
I'm fully up to date with F11 and it does mount pendrives etc. with Dolphin. Perhaps you could try from a clean user account and see what happens.
It works as expected in another user account, so it has to be something specific to mine, but I haven't a clue what it can be.
Anne
I'd somehow lost Dolphin from the Default Applications list.
Anne
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 22:01 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
I'd somehow lost Dolphin from the Default Applications list.
That would do it :-)
OT: I find it frustrating that KDE always asks me what to do when I plug in my pendrive. There doesn't seem to be an option to set a default action. It takes two mouse clicks to open Dolphin, not counting the initial one to get to the dialogue (Dolphin isn't even the preselected option despite being touted as the all-purpose file handling app).
And in the same vein, I'd also like to be able to simply mount the drive without opening any app. That doesn't appear to be possible either.
I'll report these to BZ if necessary but I just wanted to check that I'm not missing something obvious.
poc
On Thursday 14 May 2009 00:00:09 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 22:01 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
I'd somehow lost Dolphin from the Default Applications list.
That would do it :-)
OT: I find it frustrating that KDE always asks me what to do when I plug in my pendrive. There doesn't seem to be an option to set a default action. It takes two mouse clicks to open Dolphin, not counting the initial one to get to the dialogue (Dolphin isn't even the preselected option despite being touted as the all-purpose file handling app).
I think the action options were well-liked in the past, so probably are here to stay. OTOH, I agree that it would be very useful to be able to set a default action, so that Enter or clicking OK would be enough. Otherwise, setting dolphin to the top of the list would be an improvement. That's my opinion, anyway :-)
And in the same vein, I'd also like to be able to simply mount the drive without opening any app. That doesn't appear to be possible either.
Hmm - that needs some thinking about. When would you want to do that? To save a file to it, perhaps?
I opened a .jpg in gwenview, inserted a pen-drive without mounting it, then, in gwenview clicked File > Save As. I could see the pendrive in Places, so I double-clicked it and it mounted. The save completed. Does that help?
What else did you have in mind?
I'll report these to BZ if necessary but I just wanted to check that I'm not missing something obvious.
File an RFE for action options and post the number here. If we can't solve the other problem we'll file one for that as well.
Anne
Anne Wilson venit, vidit, dixit 14.05.2009 11:55:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 00:00:09 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 22:01 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
I'd somehow lost Dolphin from the Default Applications list.
That would do it :-)
OT: I find it frustrating that KDE always asks me what to do when I plug in my pendrive. There doesn't seem to be an option to set a default action. It takes two mouse clicks to open Dolphin, not counting the initial one to get to the dialogue (Dolphin isn't even the preselected option despite being touted as the all-purpose file handling app).
I think the action options were well-liked in the past, so probably are here to stay. OTOH, I agree that it would be very useful to be able to set a default action, so that Enter or clicking OK would be enough. Otherwise, setting dolphin to the top of the list would be an improvement. That's my opinion, anyway :-)
And in the same vein, I'd also like to be able to simply mount the drive without opening any app. That doesn't appear to be possible either.
Hmm - that needs some thinking about. When would you want to do that? To save a file to it, perhaps?
I opened a .jpg in gwenview, inserted a pen-drive without mounting it, then, in gwenview clicked File > Save As. I could see the pendrive in Places, so I double-clicked it and it mounted. The save completed. Does that help?
What else did you have in mind?
Well, some of us still use the command-line... but would like KDE to do the mount, either automatically, or by using the mount helper. But it doesn't even have an entry for "mount", does it?
Also, I don't seem to be able to specify mount options. If the volume is in fstab then the mount helper refuses to mount them/open them in Dolphin, no matter whether the mount points exists or not. The defaults have changed recently (F10 updates), so that's a bit of a nuisance.
Michael
I'll report these to BZ if necessary but I just wanted to check that I'm not missing something obvious.
File an RFE for action options and post the number here. If we can't solve the other problem we'll file one for that as well.
Anne
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On Thursday 14 May 2009 14:30:31 Michael J Gruber wrote:
Well, some of us still use the command-line...
Oops - sorry - didn't think of it in that context.
but would like KDE to do the mount, either automatically, or by using the mount helper. But it doesn't even have an entry for "mount", does it?
Sort of like kwikdisk used to?
Also, I don't seem to be able to specify mount options. If the volume is in fstab then the mount helper refuses to mount them/open them in Dolphin, no matter whether the mount points exists or not. The defaults have changed recently (F10 updates), so that's a bit of a nuisance.
I don't understand what you are saying here. You have an entry in fstab for a pendrive? The device notifier recognises the device but won't mount it?
My F10 is on a netbook, and I don't have any such entry in my fstab. Give me the fullest details you can and I'll try to recreate the problem. I need to fully understand it before I can ask the right questions to get an answer for you.
Anne
Anne Wilson venit, vidit, dixit 14.05.2009 16:22:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 14:30:31 Michael J Gruber wrote:
Well, some of us still use the command-line...
Oops - sorry - didn't think of it in that context.
but would like KDE to do the mount, either automatically, or by using the mount helper. But it doesn't even have an entry for "mount", does it?
Sort of like kwikdisk used to?
Also, I don't seem to be able to specify mount options. If the volume is in fstab then the mount helper refuses to mount them/open them in Dolphin, no matter whether the mount points exists or not. The defaults have changed recently (F10 updates), so that's a bit of a nuisance.
I don't understand what you are saying here. You have an entry in fstab for a pendrive? The device notifier recognises the device but won't mount it?
My F10 is on a netbook, and I don't have any such entry in my fstab. Give me the fullest details you can and I'll try to recreate the problem. I need to fully understand it before I can ask the right questions to get an answer for you.
This is on a fully updated F10. A few weeks ago, the underlying system for usb automounts changed (from or to hal or whatever). As a consequence, the defaults mount options for vfat changed from "shortname=lower" to something else (upper or mixed), which has the effect that, e.g., file names of images on memory cards appear in upper case now. This is bad when you rsync increasingly filling cards over to your disk, of course. The new system does not have any means to provide default options. So, according to advice from another list, I put
LABEL=EOS_DIGITAL /media/EOS_DIGITAL auto noauto,rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,owner,utf8,shortname=lower 0 0
in fstab which is the line which the usb-mounter adds, but with changed shortname. I tried with and without existing mount-point, and see the same effect:
The device notifier lists that volume. Opening it with dolphin (through the notifier) makes dolphin open a path underneath my $HOME, but no mount is happening.
I can mount from the command line (if the mount-point exists), so the line above is OK.
Michael
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 10:55 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 14 May 2009 00:00:09 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 22:01 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
I'd somehow lost Dolphin from the Default Applications list.
That would do it :-)
OT: I find it frustrating that KDE always asks me what to do when I plug in my pendrive. There doesn't seem to be an option to set a default action. It takes two mouse clicks to open Dolphin, not counting the initial one to get to the dialogue (Dolphin isn't even the preselected option despite being touted as the all-purpose file handling app).
I think the action options were well-liked in the past, so probably are here to stay. OTOH, I agree that it would be very useful to be able to set a default action, so that Enter or clicking OK would be enough. Otherwise, setting dolphin to the top of the list would be an improvement. That's my opinion, anyway :-)
Agreed.
And in the same vein, I'd also like to be able to simply mount the drive without opening any app. That doesn't appear to be possible either.
Hmm - that needs some thinking about. When would you want to do that? To save a file to it, perhaps?
Indeed.
I opened a .jpg in gwenview, inserted a pen-drive without mounting it, then, in gwenview clicked File > Save As. I could see the pendrive in Places, so I double-clicked it and it mounted. The save completed. Does that help?
In some cases, yes.
What else did you have in mind?
As Brian Kernighan once said, the problem with What-You-See-Is-What-You-Get is that it turns out to be What-You-See-Is-ALL-You-Get. The classic case is "copy all files with 'foo' in their names". Most GUIs can't handle that, but this is the kind of thing the Shell is good at. OTOH mounting the pendrive in a known place is trivial for the GUI to handle and is easier than typing in the Shell, but currently it forces me to open a Dolphin session that I'm not going to use. It would be useful to be able to tell KDE to remember this pendrive and just mount it on insertion with no mousing around.
I'll report these to BZ if necessary but I just wanted to check that I'm not missing something obvious.
File an RFE for action options and post the number here. If we can't solve the other problem we'll file one for that as well.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192671
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