Getting rid of un-needed GNOME files

[Gerald B. Cox]

I noticed this AM that each time I rebooted my system I would be
zombies from tracker.  I created a bug here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1432599

I really didn't have a clue as to what it was for anyway, and apparently it
is used
by GNOME and not needed/used if you are running KDE - so I deleted it.
If that was a wrong assumption on my part, please advise.

Which brings me to my question... does anyone have a list of stuff that is
unneeded by KDE but installed by default by Fedora Workstation?

It's not a matter of filespace (or even processing power I suppose in most
cases).  What I'm
concerned about is that if something has a bug and I start investigating
and spinning my wheels and find that I don't use or even need the package
in the first place - like tracker.

[Reindl Harald]

Am 15.03.2017 um 20:21 schrieb Gerald B. Cox:
>  I noticed this AM that each time I rebooted my system I would be
>  zombies from tracker.  I created a bug here:
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1432599
>
>  I really didn't have a clue as to what it was for anyway, and apparently
>  it is used
>  by GNOME and not needed/used if you are running KDE - so I deleted it.
>  If that was a wrong assumption on my part, please advise.
>
>  Which brings me to my question... does anyone have a list of stuff that is
>  unneeded by KDE but installed by default by Fedora Workstation? 
[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -qa | grep leave
python3-dnf-plugins-extras-leaves-0.0.12-3.fc24.noarch
python3-dnf-plugins-extras-show-leaves-0.0.12-3.fc24.noarch

dnf leaves

and with both installed after each removal you get a fresh list of now 
installed stuff without dependencies - combined with smart self built 
metapackages just defining requires of packages you have installed by 
intention you end in:

[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ dnf leaves
lounge-rhsoft-extras-24.0-1.fc24.20170218.rh.noarch
[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$

[Gerald B. Cox]

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net&gt;
wrote:

>  rpm -qa | grep leave
>  python3-dnf-plugins-extras-leaves-0.0.12-3.fc24.noarch
>  python3-dnf-plugins-extras-show-leaves-0.0.12-3.fc24.noarch
>
>  dnf leaves
>
>  and with both installed after each removal you get a fresh list of now
>  installed stuff without dependencies - combined with smart self built
>  metapackages just defining requires of packages you have installed by
>  intention you end in:
>
>  [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ dnf leaves
>  lounge-rhsoft-extras-24.0-1.fc24.20170218.rh.noarch
>  [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$
>  

Thanks much!

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2017-03-15 at 17:37 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>  On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Reindl Harald
> <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net&gt;
>  wrote:
>  
>  > rpm -qa | grep leave
>  > python3-dnf-plugins-extras-leaves-0.0.12-3.fc24.noarch
>  > python3-dnf-plugins-extras-show-leaves-0.0.12-3.fc24.noarch
>  > 
>  > dnf leaves
>  > 
>  > and with both installed after each removal you get a fresh list of now
>  > installed stuff without dependencies - combined with smart self built
>  > metapackages just defining requires of packages you have installed by
>  > intention you end in:
>  > 
>  > [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ dnf leaves
>  > lounge-rhsoft-extras-24.0-1.fc24.20170218.rh.noarch
>  > [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$
>  > 
>  
>  
>  Thanks much! 
You might also want to look at the clean_requirements_on_remove
configuration option in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf.

poc

[Gerald B. Cox]

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 4:55 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com&gt;
wrote:

>  You might also want to look at the clean_requirements_on_remove
>  configuration option in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf.
>  

Yup... thanks!

[P Breviglieri]

Adding on top of your concern...

I've been using Fedora as the distro of choice for my production machine since Fedora
21, ad KDE as my DE of choice. Whenever a new release is made available, I don't
upgrade - instead, I back up all my personal content and deploy it as a brand new, fresh
bare metal release. And in these occasions I make use of netinstall (don't download a
full ISO file). With netinstall I select KDE as my desktop of choice and focus on
KDE-related items only in the items selection window.

Does that prevent from installing other DE (e.g. Gnome) related stuff I'll never use?

Any comment would be welcome, thank you!

[Reindl Harald]

Am 17.03.2017 um 15:45 schrieb P Breviglieri:
>  Adding on top of your concern...
>
>  I've been using Fedora as the distro of choice for my production machine since Fedora
> 21, ad KDE as my DE of choice. Whenever a new release is made available, I don't
> upgrade - instead, I back up all my personal content and deploy it as a brand new, fresh
> bare metal release. And in these occasions I make use of netinstall (don't download a
> full ISO file). With netinstall I select KDE as my desktop of choice and focus on
> KDE-related items only in the items selection window.
>
>  Does that prevent from installing other DE (e.g. Gnome) related stuff I'll never
> use?
>
>  Any comment would be welcome, thank you! 
no it does not beause you need to cleanup your stuff every time

i upgraded yesterday the machine in front of me to F25 with DNF

[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ dnf leaves
lounge-rhsoft-extras-25.0-1.fc25.20170316.rh.noarch

and that stuff was removeable after - guess what amchine is cleaner, 
your fresh install or my well maintained with optimizings i would never 
do when i have to repeat them twice a year

the same for all our server installed with F9 and now on F24
Fedora is not Windows

Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: perl-Net-DNS-SEC-1.02-4.fc25.noarch
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: perl-Business-ISBN-3.003-1.fc25.noarch
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: f24-kde-theme-core-5.8.6-4.fc25.noarch
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: f24-kde-theme-24.5-1.fc25.noarch
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: f24-backgrounds-kde-24.1.2-1.fc25.noarch
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: perl-GD-Barcode-1.15-23.fc25.noarch
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: perl-Mojolicious-7.23-1.fc25.noarch
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: perl-JSON-PP-2.27400-4.fc25.noarch
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: perl-Math-BigInt-1.9997.27-2.fc25.noarch
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: f24-backgrounds-base-24.1.2-1.fc25.noarch
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: 
perl-Business-ISBN-Data-20140910.003-3.fc25.noarch
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: cracklib-dicts-2.9.6-4.fc25.x86_64
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-RSA-0.28-15.fc25.x86_64
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: perl-GD-2.56-9.fc25.x86_64
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: 
freerdp-libs-2:2.0.0-12.20160909git1855e36.fc25.x86_64
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: perl-Math-Complex-1.59-385.fc25.noarch
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: 
libwinpr-2:2.0.0-12.20160909git1855e36.fc25.x86_64
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-Bignum-0.06-5.fc25.x86_64
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-Random-0.11-3.fc25.x86_64
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Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-ECDSA-0.08-1.fc25.x86_64
Mar 16 17:08:17 INFO Erased: strigi-libs-0.7.8-12.fc24.x86_64
Mar 16 17:08:18 INFO Erased: linux-atm-libs-2.5.1-14.fc24.x86_64
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Mar 16 17:08:18 INFO Erased: json-c-0.12-7.fc24.x86_64
Mar 16 17:08:18 INFO Erased: firebird-libfbembed-2.5.7.27050.0-1.fc25.x86_64
Mar 16 17:08:18 INFO Erased: double-conversion-2.0.1-7.fc24.x86_64
Mar 16 17:08:18 INFO Erased: ImageMagick-6.9.3.0-6.fc25.x86_64

[P Breviglieri]

Thanks, good to know.