Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated. The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't a clue what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any ideas?
Anne
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated. The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't a clue what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any ideas?
Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the grub entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must be damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same thing happens - it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely stuck.
Anne
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated. The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't a clue what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any ideas?
Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the grub entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must be damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same thing happens - it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely stuck.
Utterly absurd for me to suggest something to you - like telling my grand-daughter how to improve her Irish dancing - but if it were me I would run something like Knoppix, and see what was in /var/log/messages , etc.
Actually, the last time this happened to me my / partition was full.
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:17, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated. The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't a clue what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any ideas?
Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the grub entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must be damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same thing happens - it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely stuck.
Utterly absurd for me to suggest something to you - like telling my grand-daughter how to improve her Irish dancing - but if it were me I would run something like Knoppix, and see what was in /var/log/messages , etc.
Actually, the last time this happened to me my / partition was full.
Well, unless something like a core-dump has filled it, that shouldn't be the problem, but I'm beginning to think that I have to get my data off, so you are probably right about reaching for knoppix :-)
Anne
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 15:37 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:17, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated. The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't a clue what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any ideas?
Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the grub entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must be damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same thing happens - it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely stuck.
Utterly absurd for me to suggest something to you - like telling my grand-daughter how to improve her Irish dancing - but if it were me I would run something like Knoppix, and see what was in /var/log/messages , etc.
Actually, the last time this happened to me my / partition was full.
Well, unless something like a core-dump has filled it, that shouldn't be the problem, but I'm beginning to think that I have to get my data off, so you are probably right about reaching for knoppix :-)
Or just use Fedora in Rescue mode.
poc
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 17:34:45 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 15:37 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:17, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated. The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't a clue what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any ideas?
Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the grub entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must be damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same thing happens - it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely stuck.
Utterly absurd for me to suggest something to you - like telling my grand-daughter how to improve her Irish dancing - but if it were me I would run something like Knoppix, and see what was in /var/log/messages , etc.
Actually, the last time this happened to me my / partition was full.
Well, unless something like a core-dump has filled it, that shouldn't be the problem, but I'm beginning to think that I have to get my data off, so you are probably right about reaching for knoppix :-)
Or just use Fedora in Rescue mode.
Of course, although knoppix offers the comfort of a gui :-) However, I didn't need either, now that I've found and fixed the problem.
Anne
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated. The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't a clue what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any ideas?
Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the grub entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must be damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same thing happens
- it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely
stuck.
Hi, Was udev updated? Bruno Wolf III had some sort of the same issue in fc13 [1]. Reverting udev solved it.
Martin Kho
[1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-March/089455.html
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On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:18, Martin Kho wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated. The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't a clue what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any ideas?
Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the grub entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must be damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same thing happens - it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely stuck.
Even a level 1 reboots!
Hi, Was udev updated? Bruno Wolf III had some sort of the same issue in fc13 [1]. Reverting udev solved it.
Certainly I had run updates earlier today, but I don't know whether udev was among them. I see an F11 update listed, but not F12. I'm not even certain that I know how to downgrade udev, but I'll have a go.
Anne
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:18, Martin Kho wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated. The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't a clue what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any ideas?
Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the grub entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must be damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same thing happens - it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely stuck.
Hi, Was udev updated? Bruno Wolf III had some sort of the same issue in fc13 [1]. Reverting udev solved it.
Reading on through that thread, the symptoms are identical - and the error message about iTCO_wdt is also identical.
OK - in the rescue system, udev is downgraded - the process finished with 'unable to connect to dbus' - I don't know whether that's to be expected. Now to reboot.
Bingo! The latest udev in F12 is poisoned, too!
Anne
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:18, Martin Kho wrote:
Was udev updated? Bruno Wolf III had some sort of the same issue in fc13 [1]. Reverting udev solved it.
Reading on through that thread, the symptoms are identical - and the error message about iTCO_wdt is also identical.
OK - in the rescue system, udev is downgraded - the process finished with 'unable to connect to dbus' - I don't know whether that's to be expected. Now to reboot.
Bingo! The latest udev in F12 is poisoned, too!
Confirmed, that udev-145-16.fc12 in updates-testing is bad.
Bug tracking this, including a workaround, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=575417#c12
Looks like the queue'd/pending update should address this too, https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/udev-145-19.fc12
(and for f13, https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/udev-151-7.fc13 )
-- Rex
On 03/23/2010 11:46 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated. The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't a clue what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any ideas?
Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the grub entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must be damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same thing happens - it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely stuck.
Same thing with run level S (Single user mode)?
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On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:35:25 Patrick Boutilier wrote:
On 03/23/2010 11:46 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated. The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't a clue what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any ideas?
Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the grub entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must be damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same thing happens - it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely stuck.
Same thing with run level S (Single user mode)?
Yes. No different kernel nor different mode has any effect at all. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-March/089455.html refers to Fedora 13, but it was exactly the same, and like the reporter there, the message about iTCO_wdt was the only thing I could see that looked wrong. Reverting udev has cured it - I'm writing on it now :-)
The udev package -16 should be avoided. Apparently -19 is in the pipeline.
Anne
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