6:57 a.m.
I've installed the Beta 3 version of F22 KDE Live in a VirtualBox VM.
This was a clean install, i.e. get a fresh VM, boot the Live CD image,
then install to disk by clicking on the button. My host machine is F21
has plenty of horsepower and an NVidia graphics card under the
proprietary driver. I also installed the VBox Guest Additions and ran
"dnf update" in the guest.
After logging in, the resulting Plasma DE is unusable. Panel menus pop
up but windows don't appear on the desktop; in fact nothing appears
there except the root background.
Other Fedora installations (F21 Workstation) work correctly in the same
setup.
Since this is KDE specific I thought I'd ask here before taking it to
the Test list.
poc
7:08 a.m.
On 04/21/15 19:57, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I've installed the Beta 3 version of F22 KDE Live in a VirtualBox
VM.
This was a clean install, i.e. get a fresh VM, boot the Live CD image,
then install to disk by clicking on the button. My host machine is F21
has plenty of horsepower and an NVidia graphics card under the
proprietary driver. I also installed the VBox Guest Additions and ran
"dnf update" in the guest.
A bit confused on the series of events...
1. Booted Live media.
2. Installed to disk using default file system layout(?)
3. Booted the installed system
4. Ran "dnf update"
5. Installed the additional packages needed to compile the VBox Guest Additions.
6. Rebooted
And then.....the unusable DE as noted below?
After logging in, the resulting Plasma DE is unusable. Panel menus
pop
up but windows don't appear on the desktop; in fact nothing appears
there except the root background.
Other Fedora installations (F21 Workstation) work correctly in the same
setup.
So far, I've only done a "netinstall" of KDE B3. And, there is also the
choice of running the non-debug kernel. I run that since it is faster.
Ed
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7:22 a.m.
On 21 April 2015 at 12:57, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I've installed the Beta 3 version of F22 KDE Live in a VirtualBox
VM.
This was a clean install, i.e. get a fresh VM, boot the Live CD image,
then install to disk by clicking on the button. My host machine is F21
has plenty of horsepower and an NVidia graphics card under the
proprietary driver. I also installed the VBox Guest Additions and ran
"dnf update" in the guest.
After logging in, the resulting Plasma DE is unusable. Panel menus pop
up but windows don't appear on the desktop; in fact nothing appears
there except the root background.
Other Fedora installations (F21 Workstation) work correctly in the same
setup.
Since this is KDE specific I thought I'd ask here before taking it to
the Test list.
The last F22 KDE test I did in VM (KVM) was probably Alpha RC3
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_jam/Test_Results:Fedora_22 (Jam
is based on the KDE spin and uses Plasma). At which time it worked
okay. Either an issue with your VM or a new bug. I could try this
evening with KVM. Do you have virtualisation extensions turned on in
hardware? That bit me after a recent motherboard change.
Further to Ed Greshko's question, was it okay on login after
installing and only failed after reboot following update?
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imalone
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7:38 a.m.
On Tue, 2015-04-21 at 20:08 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/21/15 19:57, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I've installed the Beta 3 version of F22 KDE Live in a VirtualBox VM.
> This was a clean install, i.e. get a fresh VM, boot the Live CD image,
> then install to disk by clicking on the button. My host machine is F21
> has plenty of horsepower and an NVidia graphics card under the
> proprietary driver. I also installed the VBox Guest Additions and ran
> "dnf update" in the guest.
A bit confused on the series of events...
1. Booted Live media.
2. Installed to disk using default file system layout(?)
3. Booted the installed system
3a. Ran dnf install kernel-devel kernel-headers gcc
3b. Ran the VBox Guest Additions script (which requires kernel headers
and gcc).
3c. Rebooted and noted the problems already mentioned.
4. Ran "dnf update"
...
6. Rebooted
6a Problems still present.
What I can't remember at the moment is whether I had to run stage 3a
from single-user mode due to a non-functioning desktop. I did have to so
this at stage 4.
And then.....the unusable DE as noted below?
> After logging in, the resulting Plasma DE is unusable. Panel menus pop
> up but windows don't appear on the desktop; in fact nothing appears
> there except the root background.
>
> Other Fedora installations (F21 Workstation) work correctly in the same
> setup.
>
So far, I've only done a "netinstall" of KDE B3. And, there is also the
choice of running the non-debug kernel. I run that since it is faster.
I might try that. My only purpose in all this is to try and pin down the
problem with Plasma not preserving window layout and settings across
sessions, which I've mentioned in another thread. That problem doesn't
go away when I just try a different user, so my idea was to install
Plasma from scratch rather than as an update to KDE 4.
poc
7:40 a.m.
On Tue, 2015-04-21 at 13:22 +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
On 21 April 2015 at 12:57, Patrick O'Callaghan
<pocallaghan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I've installed the Beta 3 version of F22 KDE Live in a VirtualBox VM.
> This was a clean install, i.e. get a fresh VM, boot the Live CD image,
> then install to disk by clicking on the button. My host machine is F21
> has plenty of horsepower and an NVidia graphics card under the
> proprietary driver. I also installed the VBox Guest Additions and ran
> "dnf update" in the guest.
>
> After logging in, the resulting Plasma DE is unusable. Panel menus pop
> up but windows don't appear on the desktop; in fact nothing appears
> there except the root background.
>
> Other Fedora installations (F21 Workstation) work correctly in the same
> setup.
>
> Since this is KDE specific I thought I'd ask here before taking it to
> the Test list.
>
The last F22 KDE test I did in VM (KVM) was probably Alpha RC3
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_jam/Test_Results:Fedora_22 (Jam
is based on the KDE spin and uses Plasma). At which time it worked
okay. Either an issue with your VM or a new bug. I could try this
evening with KVM. Do you have virtualisation extensions turned on in
hardware? That bit me after a recent motherboard change.
Further to Ed Greshko's question, was it okay on login after
installing and only failed after reboot following update?
Yes, the hardware is an i7 cpu with all the bells and whistles. As I
replied to Ed, I'm not sure about the answer to your second question. I
do remember the Live session (i.e. first boot) appeared to be OK but I
immediately clicked on the install button so didn't really try it.
poc
8:37 a.m.
On 04/21/15 20:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2015-04-21 at 20:08 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 04/21/15 19:57, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> I've installed the Beta 3 version of F22 KDE Live in a VirtualBox VM.
>> This was a clean install, i.e. get a fresh VM, boot the Live CD image,
>> then install to disk by clicking on the button. My host machine is F21
>> has plenty of horsepower and an NVidia graphics card under the
>> proprietary driver. I also installed the VBox Guest Additions and ran
>> "dnf update" in the guest.
> A bit confused on the series of events...
>
> 1. Booted Live media.
> 2. Installed to disk using default file system layout(?)
> 3. Booted the installed system
3a. Ran dnf install kernel-devel kernel-headers gcc
3b. Ran the VBox Guest Additions script (which requires kernel headers
and gcc).
3c. Rebooted and noted the problems already mentioned.
> 4. Ran "dnf update"
...
> 6. Rebooted
6a Problems still present.
What I can't remember at the moment is whether I had to run stage 3a
from single-user mode due to a non-functioning desktop. I did have to so
this at stage 4.
> And then.....the unusable DE as noted below?
>> After logging in, the resulting Plasma DE is unusable. Panel menus pop
>> up but windows don't appear on the desktop; in fact nothing appears
>> there except the root background.
>>
>> Other Fedora installations (F21 Workstation) work correctly in the same
>> setup.
>>
> So far, I've only done a "netinstall" of KDE B3. And, there is also
the choice of running the non-debug kernel. I run that since it is faster.
I might try that. My only purpose in all this is to try and pin down the
problem with Plasma not preserving window layout and settings across
sessions, which I've mentioned in another thread. That problem doesn't
go away when I just try a different user, so my idea was to install
Plasma from scratch rather than as an update to KDE 4.
I see....
Well, I've only done a netinstall and I'm having no issues with responsiveness.
Running in a VBox VM. I may try a Live install tomorrow if I have the chance.
FWIW, the not preserving window layout problem exists in a scratch install. Need to
check/hunt to see if there is a BZ files so I can add myself to the CC.
--
If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige.
1:26 p.m.
On Tue, 2015-04-21 at 21:37 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/21/15 20:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-04-21 at 20:08 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 04/21/15 19:57, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> I've installed the Beta 3 version of F22 KDE Live in a VirtualBox VM.
>>> This was a clean install, i.e. get a fresh VM, boot the Live CD image,
>>> then install to disk by clicking on the button. My host machine is F21
>>> has plenty of horsepower and an NVidia graphics card under the
>>> proprietary driver. I also installed the VBox Guest Additions and ran
>>> "dnf update" in the guest.
[...]
I see....
Well, I've only done a netinstall and I'm having no issues with responsiveness.
Running in a VBox VM. I may try a Live install tomorrow if I have the chance.
FWIW, the not preserving window layout problem exists in a scratch install. Need to
check/hunt to see if there is a BZ files so I can add myself to the CC.
Interesting. Here's the BZ I filed a while back:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343875
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