Running Fedora 11, KDE 4.4.0, and KMail 1.13.0. I'm having problems getting new addresses entered into the address book. Akonadi *IS* running, according to "akonadictl status" but it seems to refuse to save new address book entries. What's going on here?
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On Friday 19 March 2010 15:01:26 John Aldrich wrote:
Running Fedora 11, KDE 4.4.0, and KMail 1.13.0. I'm having problems getting new addresses entered into the address book. Akonadi *IS* running, according to "akonadictl status" but it seems to refuse to save new address book entries. What's going on here?
Hi, could you provide more information - address book type etc.?
Jaroslav
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On Friday 19 March 2010 14:01:26 John Aldrich wrote:
Running Fedora 11, KDE 4.4.0, and KMail 1.13.0. I'm having problems getting new addresses entered into the address book. Akonadi *IS* running, according to "akonadictl status" but it seems to refuse to save new address book entries. What's going on here?
Do any of the entries on http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi help? I don't know what the status is on F11 - in F12 I'm using KMail 1.13.1 under 4.4.1. A number of issues that were present in 4.4.0 were cleared up in 4.4.1.
Anne
On Friday 19 March 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 19 March 2010 14:01:26 John Aldrich wrote:
Running Fedora 11, KDE 4.4.0, and KMail 1.13.0. I'm having problems getting new addresses entered into the address book. Akonadi *IS* running, according to "akonadictl status" but it seems to refuse to save new address book entries. What's going on here?
Do any of the entries on http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi help? I don't know what the status is on F11 - in F12 I'm using KMail 1.13.1 under 4.4.1. A number of issues that were present in 4.4.0 were cleared up in 4.4.1.
Anne
It appears I may have complained too soon. The address is now showing up. I'm not sure what's going on, but I've been trying to add it for a couple days now and it's just now finally showing up. As for the Address book, I'm just using whatever is in KMail 1.13/KDE4.4.x. I did download and install a few Fedora updates this afternoon, so maybe that's what did it, but I tried entering the addresses in Address Book several times and it never seemed to show up, either in Address Book or in the "select" function.
On Friday 19 March 2010, John Aldrich wrote:
It appears I may have complained too soon. The address is now showing up. I'm not sure what's going on, but I've been trying to add it for a couple days now and it's just now finally showing up. As for the Address book, I'm just using whatever is in KMail 1.13/KDE4.4.x. I did download and install a few Fedora updates this afternoon, so maybe that's what did it, but I tried entering the addresses in Address Book several times and it never seemed to show up, either in Address Book or in the "select" function.
Ok. Here's the deal... it's still not working properly. If I use the "select" button on the to: or cc: lines, I can NOT find the email address I just added a few days ago. In KAddressbook, I can't browse the list of email addresses to find what I'm looking for. However, if I *search* the first few letters of the email address in question, it comes up as "spam reports." Why in the heck can I not find that email address in KAddress book by browsing or using the "select" in KMail to find it? What am I doing wrong?
On Saturday 20 March 2010 14:18:12 John Aldrich wrote:
On Friday 19 March 2010, John Aldrich wrote:
It appears I may have complained too soon. The address is now showing up. I'm not sure what's going on, but I've been trying to add it for a couple days now and it's just now finally showing up. As for the Address book, I'm just using whatever is in KMail 1.13/KDE4.4.x. I did download and install a few Fedora updates this afternoon, so maybe that's what did it, but I tried entering the addresses in Address Book several times and it never seemed to show up, either in Address Book or in the "select" function.
Ok. Here's the deal... it's still not working properly. If I use the "select" button on the to: or cc: lines, I can NOT find the email address I just added a few days ago. In KAddressbook, I can't browse the list of email addresses to find what I'm looking for. However, if I *search* the first few letters of the email address in question, it comes up as "spam reports." Why in the heck can I not find that email address in KAddress book by browsing or using the "select" in KMail to find it? What am I doing wrong?
I don't know - things are changing just too fast. I've no idea where the 'spam reports' comes from. At one point I could use the akonadi configuration to set a default addressbook - but that option doesn't seem to be there any more - if it's moved, perhaps Rex or Kevin knows where?
For the newly added addresses - did you add them to an addressbook that is pointed to std.vcf? According to the developers that's the prime source of data, and the ~/.local/share/contacts is the cached data.
After that, I'm out of ideas. It works for me, but it's immensely frustrating when I can't even find the method I used to get it to work, i.e. set the default addressbook.
Anne
On Saturday 20 March 2010 16:28:20 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 20 March 2010 14:18:12 John Aldrich wrote:
On Friday 19 March 2010, John Aldrich wrote:
It appears I may have complained too soon. The address is now showing up. I'm not sure what's going on, but I've been trying to add it for a couple days now and it's just now finally showing up. As for the Address book, I'm just using whatever is in KMail 1.13/KDE4.4.x. I did download and install a few Fedora updates this afternoon, so maybe that's what did it, but I tried entering the addresses in Address Book several times and it never seemed to show up, either in Address Book or in the "select" function.
Ok. Here's the deal... it's still not working properly. If I use the "select" button on the to: or cc: lines, I can NOT find the email address I just added a few days ago. In KAddressbook, I can't browse the list of email addresses to find what I'm looking for. However, if I *search* the first few letters of the email address in question, it comes up as "spam reports." Why in the heck can I not find that email address in KAddress book by browsing or using the "select" in KMail to find it? What am I doing wrong?
I don't know - things are changing just too fast. I've no idea where the 'spam reports' comes from. At one point I could use the akonadi configuration to set a default addressbook - but that option doesn't seem to be there any more - if it's moved, perhaps Rex or Kevin knows where?
For the newly added addresses - did you add them to an addressbook that is pointed to std.vcf? According to the developers that's the prime source of data, and the ~/.local/share/contacts is the cached data.
After that, I'm out of ideas. It works for me, but it's immensely frustrating when I can't even find the method I used to get it to work, i.e. set the default addressbook.
Anne
Anne, its not that things are moving at Fedora too quickly, its that the Kontact Akonadi combo is full of bugs.
Before the update to 4.4.1 thnings seemed to be OK. After the updated and whenever I log off logon or switch of the entire kontact system (Kontact, Korganizer reminder deamon, Akonadi, Nepomuk) and then restart the entire system in (reverse order of course) I get an error message from Akonadi stating that it can't find some resource. When I look at my address book nothing is there. After sometime, it reapears. When I look at Akonadi configuration there is no Address book. When I add a tradtional addressbook I get 2 of them. I cannot delete the first one from my contacts. However, when I remove the address book from Akonadi and then restart Kontact I get only one address book.
And of course, the one that really ticks me off, if I were to stop akonadi, remove ~/.local/akonadi/ and restart akonadi, the database still does not initialize correctly.
Like I said, the only way that this kind of carelessness (by design or genuine carelessness) is going to change is if the distro packagers lodge a formal protest in the way of boycott. We are not KDE's qa department.
Eli
On 03/20/2010 12:35 PM, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
And of course, the one that really ticks me off, if I were to stop akonadi, remove ~/.local/akonadi/ and restart akonadi, the database still does not initialize correctly.
Really? the only issue I've ever been aware of in this area was fixed (it was a broken mysql update).
I'll try to reproduce myself.
For posterity, what's your output of: rpm -q akonadi mysql-server ?
-- Rex
On Saturday 20 March 2010 20:21:05 Rex Dieter wrote:
On 03/20/2010 12:35 PM, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
And of course, the one that really ticks me off, if I were to stop akonadi, remove ~/.local/akonadi/ and restart akonadi, the database still does not initialize correctly.
Really? the only issue I've ever been aware of in this area was fixed (it was a broken mysql update).
I'll try to reproduce myself.
For posterity, what's your output of: rpm -q akonadi mysql-server ?
If I start from scratch?
Eli
On Saturday 20 March 2010 20:21:05 Rex Dieter wrote:
On 03/20/2010 12:35 PM, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
And of course, the one that really ticks me off, if I were to stop akonadi, remove ~/.local/akonadi/ and restart akonadi, the database still does not initialize correctly.
Really? the only issue I've ever been aware of in this area was fixed (it was a broken mysql update).
I'll try to reproduce myself.
For posterity, what's your output of: rpm -q akonadi mysql-server ?
-- Rex
Harrumph....
This time when I started from scratch... Things went fine.
Its been a week like that. :/
rpm -q akonadi mysql-server akonadi-1.3.1-2.fc12.x86_64 mysql-server-5.1.44-1.fc12.x86_64
Eli
On Saturday 20 March 2010 17:35:20 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
Anne, its not that things are moving at Fedora too quickly, its that the Kontact Akonadi combo is full of bugs.
No, it's not. Most of the complaints, once we got past that nepomuk not starting bit, have been about missing features, all of which are in the pipe- line. A few people like you have some big problems, but they are not generally experienced, so need to be examined in the context of your setup in order to identify the cause.
Anne
On Saturday 20 March 2010 22:25:59 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 20 March 2010 17:35:20 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
Anne, its not that things are moving at Fedora too quickly, its that the Kontact Akonadi combo is full of bugs.
No, it's not. Most of the complaints, once we got past that nepomuk not starting bit, have been about missing features, all of which are in the pipe- line. A few people like you have some big problems, but they are not generally experienced, so need to be examined in the context of your setup in order to identify the cause.
Anne
Readded the address book after starting over from scratch as indicated in a previous post. Things went OK.
And as stated in a previous post
harrumph :/
Eli
On Saturday 20 March 2010 20:34:27 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Saturday 20 March 2010 22:25:59 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 20 March 2010 17:35:20 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
Anne, its not that things are moving at Fedora too quickly, its that the Kontact Akonadi combo is full of bugs.
No, it's not. Most of the complaints, once we got past that nepomuk not starting bit, have been about missing features, all of which are in the pipe- line. A few people like you have some big problems, but they are not generally experienced, so need to be examined in the context of your setup in order to identify the cause.
Anne
Readded the address book after starting over from scratch as indicated in a previous post. Things went OK.
And as stated in a previous post
harrumph :/
I expect a recent update has (accidentally(?) ) cleared your problem. I've always mixed feelings when that sort of thing happens - half relief and half frustration that I don't know why :-)
Anne
Eli Wapniarski wrote:
Like I said, the only way that this kind of carelessness (by design or genuine carelessness) is going to change is if the distro packagers lodge a formal protest in the way of boycott. We are not KDE's qa department.
What do you expect us to do? No longer upgrade, leaving you all with 4.4.1, the very release you are complaining about? The only thing we can do is to work with upstream on getting the bugs fixed and to ship their bugfix releases as they come out. A "boycott" would just cause more problems, it wouldn't solve anything.
Kevin Kofler
On Monday 22 March 2010 23:37:20 Kevin Kofler wrote:
Eli Wapniarski wrote:
Like I said, the only way that this kind of carelessness (by design or genuine carelessness) is going to change is if the distro packagers lodge a formal protest in the way of boycott. We are not KDE's qa department.
What do you expect us to do? No longer upgrade, leaving you all with 4.4.1, the very release you are complaining about? The only thing we can do is to work with upstream on getting the bugs fixed and to ship their bugfix releases as they come out. A "boycott" would just cause more problems, it wouldn't solve anything.
Kevin Kofler
I disagree to some extent. The bugs need to be fixed certainly. However, with all due respect to everyone. Its time that KDE reallocates all the resources that have gone into created a brand new shiny gui with lots of great eye candy and place the same effort into fixing outstanding application bugs. For me Konqueror needs to stop crashing. It needs to work with major web sites and do standard things that every browser does, like playing flash videos at CNN or being able to visit scify.com, etc, etc,etc. Kontact needs to come up and not complain. I shouldn't have to be playing Akonadi settings, or Nepomuk settings gee what a great geek I am (thats a joke :). After all the playing I've done with Akonadi over the last couple of days, my filters seemed to have stoped working. Frankly... this is getting wearisome. If these things are required they should simply start transparently. If data integrity needs to be maintained then it should be maintained. And because of the nature of the data in Kontact, Kontact should be QAed until tears come out of the developers eyes from boredom. If kontact requires all these seperate components to work then they should work completely transparently and without interfereing with other major subsystems. In my case I have to switch off every Kontact component off before I can play a game I'm enjoying under wine. I'm sure that everyone has there favorite gripe these days.
And if KDE cannot take a more professional policy regarding development and user concerns. Well; at the very least a boycott is in order. Somehow the message has got to come across over there that us users are part of the equation. Our data, and computing and meaningful feedback are part of what enables KDE to evolve. We need to be taken into account. This is not to say that I'm expecting 100% bug free code. But when something is released as stable. It should be stable. Don't you think?
Eli
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 06:21:44 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
Its time that KDE reallocates all the resources that have gone into created a brand new shiny gui with lots of great eye candy and place the same effort into fixing outstanding application bugs.
As you well know, KDE is not a commercial company, with paid employees working 9 to 5. KDE is a community of people who give their best, mostly in their spare time, but sometimes fail to understand what a hash we can all make with tweaking our own systems. Yes there have been problems, but the developers have been responsive in helping us to identify them and fix them.
I know some people are annoyed, but try to be rational about this. As long as some of us can say 'it works for me', we have to accept that the cause of problems may not be in the actual software package.
Anne
tisdag 23 mars 2010 skrev Anne Wilson:
As you well know, KDE is not a commercial company, with paid employees working 9 to 5. KDE is a community of people who give their best, mostly in their spare time, but sometimes fail to understand what a hash we can all make with tweaking our own systems. Yes there have been problems, but the developers have been responsive in helping us to identify them and fix them.
Most of us do understand this and we appreciate all the work done by the developers, package maintainers and documentation writers. We also like KDE, why would we use it if we didn't?
However, the present situation in a core utility, PIM, risks making people leave KDE for other systems. After all PIM is not just any program, it's where I keep all my personal information!
I know some people are annoyed, but try to be rational about this. As long as some of us can say 'it works for me', we have to accept that the cause of problems may not be in the actual software package.
The last couple of months or so I have silently followed the discussions about the implementation of Akonadi on this list and avoided the testing repository. This is my production system and I want it to be as stable as possible. Last week I upgraded to 4.4.1 from stable. After a lot of work and following the advise given by you and others I now _seem_ to have a stable "Personal Contacts" address-book where I can add, remove and edit contacts. Somehow they also are saved although they don't show up in ~/.local/share/contacts/ until later.
If I click on an email-address in AddressBook a "new mail" window in Kmail opens with the address in the to-field just as expected. If, on the other hand, I open a "new mail" window from Kmail and try to select a contact I'm presented a list which reflects the situation before the migration to Akonadi. Any changes or new entries are not there! I guess, without knowing, that Kmail still reads the old ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf while Akonadi only updates ~/.local/share/contacts/ .
Using Kmail gradually becomes much harder as more and more contacts are added or changed. You now have to look up each contact manually in AddressBook instead of just typing the name in the to-field. Even worse, as you loose track of which addresses have changed you risk using outdated addresses!
How can an update be pushed as "stable" from upstream with a regression like this?
Best regards Jan
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 12:20:24 Jan Simonson wrote:
tisdag 23 mars 2010 skrev Anne Wilson:
As you well know, KDE is not a commercial company, with paid employees working 9 to 5. KDE is a community of people who give their best, mostly in their spare time, but sometimes fail to understand what a hash we can all make with tweaking our own systems. Yes there have been problems, but the developers have been responsive in helping us to identify them and fix them.
Most of us do understand this and we appreciate all the work done by the developers, package maintainers and documentation writers. We also like KDE, why would we use it if we didn't?
However, the present situation in a core utility, PIM, risks making people leave KDE for other systems. After all PIM is not just any program, it's where I keep all my personal information!
I know some people are annoyed, but try to be rational about this. As long as some of us can say 'it works for me', we have to accept that the cause of problems may not be in the actual software package.
The last couple of months or so I have silently followed the discussions about the implementation of Akonadi on this list and avoided the testing repository. This is my production system and I want it to be as stable as possible. Last week I upgraded to 4.4.1 from stable. After a lot of work and following the advise given by you and others I now _seem_ to have a stable "Personal Contacts" address-book where I can add, remove and edit contacts. Somehow they also are saved although they don't show up in ~/.local/share/contacts/ until later.
If I click on an email-address in AddressBook a "new mail" window in Kmail opens with the address in the to-field just as expected. If, on the other hand, I open a "new mail" window from Kmail and try to select a contact I'm presented a list which reflects the situation before the migration to Akonadi. Any changes or new entries are not there! I guess, without knowing, that Kmail still reads the old ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf while Akonadi only updates ~/.local/share/contacts/ .
Using Kmail gradually becomes much harder as more and more contacts are added or changed. You now have to look up each contact manually in AddressBook instead of just typing the name in the to-field. Even worse, as you loose track of which addresses have changed you risk using outdated addresses!
How can an update be pushed as "stable" from upstream with a regression like this?
Indeed, this release was the second worst one after 4.0 release - mostly due to Aconadi. I like Akonadi ideas, I'm big fan of it but... We should push upstream to do more work on the release testing (we try to help as much as possible through packaging beta stuff etc.).
Do you experience this bug - KMail starts in session but before it's ready Akonadi says, it's stopping itself. KMail exits, has to be started manually again (same for KAddressBook) etc. Do we have bug report for this? Upstream bug report? My colleague next to me experience the same problem. If there's no bug, I'll report one.
Jaroslav
Best regards Jan
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:34, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
If I click on an email-address in AddressBook a "new mail" window in Kmail opens with the address in the to-field just as expected. If, on the other hand, I open a "new mail" window from Kmail and try to select a contact I'm presented a list which reflects the situation before the migration to Akonadi. Any changes or new entries are not there! I guess, without knowing, that Kmail still reads the old ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf while Akonadi only updates ~/.local/share/contacts/ .
Using Kmail gradually becomes much harder as more and more contacts are added or changed. You now have to look up each contact manually in AddressBook instead of just typing the name in the to-field. Even worse, as you loose track of which addresses have changed you risk using outdated addresses!
How can an update be pushed as "stable" from upstream with a regression like this?
Yet this is another case of 'it works for me' - so we have to find out _why_ you have a problem, since it cannot possibly be a faulty package.
Indeed, this release was the second worst one after 4.0 release - mostly due to Aconadi. I like Akonadi ideas, I'm big fan of it but... We should push upstream to do more work on the release testing (we try to help as much as possible through packaging beta stuff etc.).
Do you experience this bug - KMail starts in session but before it's ready Akonadi says, it's stopping itself. KMail exits, has to be started manually again (same for KAddressBook) etc. Do we have bug report for this? Upstream bug report? My colleague next to me experience the same problem. If there's no bug, I'll report one.
No, I've never seen that. 4.4.0 had the problem of needing akonadi to be started manually before kmail could run, but I've never seen any startup problem at all since the 4.4.1 release.
Again, I can only say that we need to know why mine works and others can't get it to.
Anne
tisdag 23 mars 2010 skrev Anne Wilson:
If I click on an email-address in AddressBook a "new mail" window in Kmail opens with the address in the to-field just as expected. If, on the other hand, I open a "new mail" window from Kmail and try to select a contact I'm presented a list which reflects the situation before the migration to Akonadi. Any changes or new entries are not there! I guess, without knowing, that Kmail still reads the old ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf while Akonadi only updates ~/.local/share/contacts/ .
Using Kmail gradually becomes much harder as more and more contacts are added or changed. You now have to look up each contact manually in AddressBook instead of just typing the name in the to-field. Even worse, as you loose track of which addresses have changed you risk using outdated addresses!
How can an update be pushed as "stable" from upstream with a regression like this?
Yet this is another case of 'it works for me' - so we have to find out why you have a problem, since it cannot possibly be a faulty package.
If you add a new contact in AddressBook and then open a "new mail" window in Kmail and type the _name_ of the new contact in the to-field does the email- address really come up there as a suggestion for you?
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 14:55, Jan Simonson wrote:
tisdag 23 mars 2010 skrev Anne Wilson:
If I click on an email-address in AddressBook a "new mail" window in Kmail opens with the address in the to-field just as expected. If, on the other hand, I open a "new mail" window from Kmail and try to select a contact I'm presented a list which reflects the situation before the migration to Akonadi. Any changes or new entries are not there! I guess, without knowing, that Kmail still reads the old ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf while Akonadi only updates ~/.local/share/contacts/ .
Using Kmail gradually becomes much harder as more and more contacts are added or changed. You now have to look up each contact manually in AddressBook instead of just typing the name in the to-field. Even worse, as you loose track of which addresses have changed you risk using outdated addresses!
How can an update be pushed as "stable" from upstream with a regression like this?
Yet this is another case of 'it works for me' - so we have to find out why you have a problem, since it cannot possibly be a faulty package.
If you add a new contact in AddressBook and then open a "new mail" window in Kmail and type the _name_ of the new contact in the to-field does the email- address really come up there as a suggestion for you?
Jan - at the moment I can't boot my laptop at all, so I can't confirm it, but I can say definitely that it did, last time I tried it, a few days ago.
Anne
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 14:55:07 Jan Simonson wrote:
tisdag 23 mars 2010 skrev Anne Wilson:
If I click on an email-address in AddressBook a "new mail" window in Kmail opens with the address in the to-field just as expected. If, on the other hand, I open a "new mail" window from Kmail and try to select a contact I'm presented a list which reflects the situation before the migration to Akonadi. Any changes or new entries are not there! I guess, without knowing, that Kmail still reads the old ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf while Akonadi only updates ~/.local/share/contacts/ .
Using Kmail gradually becomes much harder as more and more contacts are added or changed. You now have to look up each contact manually in AddressBook instead of just typing the name in the to-field. Even worse, as you loose track of which addresses have changed you risk using outdated addresses!
How can an update be pushed as "stable" from upstream with a regression like this?
Yet this is another case of 'it works for me' - so we have to find out why you have a problem, since it cannot possibly be a faulty package.
If you add a new contact in AddressBook and then open a "new mail" window in Kmail and type the _name_ of the new contact in the to-field does the email- address really come up there as a suggestion for you?
Now I'm back into the laptop, I've checked.
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 16:25:02 Anne Wilson wrote:
Now I'm back into the laptop, I've checked.
Sorry - trigger-happy finger :-)
Anne
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 14:55:07 Jan Simonson wrote:
tisdag 23 mars 2010 skrev Anne Wilson:
If I click on an email-address in AddressBook a "new mail" window in Kmail opens with the address in the to-field just as expected. If, on the other hand, I open a "new mail" window from Kmail and try to select a contact I'm presented a list which reflects the situation before the migration to Akonadi. Any changes or new entries are not there! I guess, without knowing, that Kmail still reads the old ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf while Akonadi only updates ~/.local/share/contacts/ .
Using Kmail gradually becomes much harder as more and more contacts are added or changed. You now have to look up each contact manually in AddressBook instead of just typing the name in the to-field. Even worse, as you loose track of which addresses have changed you risk using outdated addresses!
How can an update be pushed as "stable" from upstream with a regression like this?
Yet this is another case of 'it works for me' - so we have to find out why you have a problem, since it cannot possibly be a faulty package.
If you add a new contact in AddressBook and then open a "new mail" window in Kmail and type the _name_ of the new contact in the to-field does the email- address really come up there as a suggestion for you?
Now that I'm back into the laptop I've checked. I saved your address, but when I started to type Jan it didn't show up. However, when I used the Select button I could choose the correct addressbook, see your address and add it. I then cancelled the test message.
Trying a new message again the autocompletion did work - possibly because it had been put into the recent addresses list? I don't know. On the other hand, it may be like trying to locate a package that you've only just installed - if the database hasn't had time to update it doesn't work, yet a little while later it will.
Hope that gives you some clues as to what may be happening, even if it is largely guesswork.
Anne
tisdag 23 mars 2010 skrev Anne Wilson:
Now that I'm back into the laptop I've checked. I saved your address, but when I started to type Jan it didn't show up. However, when I used the Select button I could choose the correct addressbook, see your address and add it. I then cancelled the test message.
I'm glad that you managed to solve your problem with the rebooting laptop!
When I try to save an email-address from kmail I get a window titled "Select an Address-book" but it's empty so that's a dead end. I have to enter it manually into AddressBook. When I press the Select button to the right of the address- field in the "new mail" window of Kmail I get a new window where I can choose Address-book to use. Available there are "All", "resource" and all my distribution-lists, not the "Personliga kontakter" (= personal contacts in swedish) which is the only list in AddressBook. BTW, the distribution-lists are useless now as I can't edit them any more. What a mess!
Trying a new message again the autocompletion did work - possibly because it had been put into the recent addresses list? I don't know. On the other hand, it may be like trying to locate a package that you've only just installed - if the database hasn't had time to update it doesn't work, yet a little while later it will.
Of course it will work after using it so it's saved in the recent list, but that doesn't solve my problem.
Thanks for trying to help Jan
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 17:41:42 Jan Simonson wrote:
tisdag 23 mars 2010 skrev Anne Wilson:
Now that I'm back into the laptop I've checked. I saved your address, but when I started to type Jan it didn't show up. However, when I used the Select button I could choose the correct addressbook, see your address and add it. I then cancelled the test message.
I'm glad that you managed to solve your problem with the rebooting laptop!
When I try to save an email-address from kmail I get a window titled "Select an Address-book" but it's empty so that's a dead end. I have to enter it manually into AddressBook. When I press the Select button to the right of the address- field in the "new mail" window of Kmail I get a new window where I can choose Address-book to use. Available there are "All", "resource" and all my distribution-lists, not the "Personliga kontakter" (= personal contacts in swedish) which is the only list in AddressBook.
In KAddressBook, do you have "Personliga kontakter"? If not, you need to add it. That's your main addressbook. I'm assuming that it is actually set up correctly (which you can check in Akonadi Configuration - type Akonadi into krunner), but from what you've said I believe it is, so it should merely be a case of adding it to kaddressbook.
BTW, the distribution-lists are useless now as I can't edit them any more. What a mess!
The migrator for distribution lists is not in this version. What you can do is create a Group (which will replace the old dist-list) then add the addresses. That's not as bad as it sounds, as autocompletion works, so typing 2-3 characters of the name allows you to add it. It's a work-around, but unless you are one of the people with large club distribution lists it's not so bad. You'll need to sort out your Personal Contacts problem first, of course. Hopefully we will have the migrator by 4.5 at the latest.
Trying a new message again the autocompletion did work - possibly because it had been put into the recent addresses list? I don't know. On the other hand, it may be like trying to locate a package that you've only just installed - if the database hasn't had time to update it doesn't work, yet a little while later it will.
Of course it will work after using it so it's saved in the recent list, but that doesn't solve my problem.
Yes - I had expected that it would not be in the recently used list since I cancelled the message, so I checked kmailrc, which is where the recently used list is kept. Your name is not among the addresses, so I think we can be sure that it's not using that list.
Anne
tisdag 23 mars 2010 skrev Anne Wilson:
When I try to save an email-address from kmail I get a window titled "Select an Address-book" but it's empty so that's a dead end. I have to enter it manually into AddressBook. When I press the Select button to the right of the address- field in the "new mail" window of Kmail I get a new window where I can choose Address-book to use. Available there are "All", "resource" and all my distribution-lists, not the "Personliga kontakter" (= personal contacts in swedish) which is the only list in AddressBook.
In KAddressBook, do you have "Personliga kontakter"?
It's been there all the time since I upgraded and sorted it out.
If not, you need to add it. That's your main addressbook. I'm assuming that it is actually set up correctly (which you can check in Akonadi Configuration - type Akonadi into krunner), but from what you've said I believe it is, so it should merely be a case of adding it to kaddressbook.
No, as it's already the only list there, there is no point in adding it again. KAddressBook works as a stand-alone program, the problem is I can't make KMail aware of what's done in KAddressBook.
BTW, the distribution-lists are useless now as I can't edit them any more. What a mess!
The migrator for distribution lists is not in this version. What you can do is create a Group (which will replace the old dist-list) then add the addresses. That's not as bad as it sounds, as autocompletion works, so typing 2-3 characters of the name allows you to add it. It's a work-around, but unless you are one of the people with large club distribution lists it's not so bad. You'll need to sort out your Personal Contacts problem first, of course. Hopefully we will have the migrator by 4.5 at the latest.
In fact it's really bad. I run several distribution lists, one with more than 200 members, one with almost 100 members and some with 40-50 members. I just can't wait until 4.5 is available sometime in the future. I have to do it manually. Furthermore any changes made in KAddressBook are _not_ available in KMail, see above. So there is no point in creating new Groups in KAddressBook as I can't use them in KMail anyhow.
How can an upgrade like this be pushed?
Jan
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 18:45:22 Jan Simonson wrote:
How can an upgrade like this be pushed?
Jan, whatever the problem is, the fact that it works for some of us means that it's not the package that's at fault.
For the few people like you that have huge distribution lists, yes, that's a problem. The problem of kmail not being able to see what you can see in kaddressbook is a different matter. That's something that we should be able to cure. I'll speak to the developers and see if they can suggest likely causes.
Anne
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 19:35:21 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 18:45:22 Jan Simonson wrote:
How can an upgrade like this be pushed?
Jan, whatever the problem is, the fact that it works for some of us means that it's not the package that's at fault.
For the few people like you that have huge distribution lists, yes, that's a problem. The problem of kmail not being able to see what you can see in kaddressbook is a different matter. That's something that we should be able to cure. I'll speak to the developers and see if they can suggest likely causes.
Jan, try SystemSettings > Advanced tab > KDE Resources. You should have some entries there - I have Default Addressbook, akonadi-resource Personal, akonadi-resource KDE. Since it says Default Addressbook is a file, I assume that that's the old std.vcf (which I have set up in kaddressbook along with Personal Contacts). Make sure that any resources there are activated, then use the 'Set as Standard' button on akonadi-resource Personal. Apply it, and restart KMail. Let us know whether it works.
Anne
tisdag 23 mars 2010 skrev Anne Wilson:
Jan, try SystemSettings > Advanced tab > KDE Resources. You should have some entries there - I have Default Addressbook, akonadi-resource Personal, akonadi-resource KDE. Since it says Default Addressbook is a file, I assume that that's the old std.vcf (which I have set up in kaddressbook along with Personal Contacts). Make sure that any resources there are activated, then use the 'Set as Standard' button on akonadi-resource Personal. Apply it, and restart KMail. Let us know whether it works.
Thank you Anne, that solved the problem with interaction between KAddressBook and KMail. When doing the settings in KDE Resources I happened to see that there seems to be a possibility to use an old .vcf file. Perhaps that's a way to use my distribution lists until further. The problem with editing them still remains though as KAddressBook now seems to be unable to open std.vcf. I will experiment a bit when I have the time.
I still stand by the opinion that this should not have been pushed until it was much more mature!
Once again, thank you for taking the time with my problem. Jan
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 21:39:53 Jan Simonson wrote:
Thank you Anne, that solved the problem with interaction between KAddressBook and KMail.
I knew that somewhere along the line I had set Personal Contacts to my Default addressbook. However, when I did it the setting was available within akonadi configuration. Then that disappeared and I couldn't find it again until the developer pointed me to it last night. I expect someone told the developers that it should be in systemsettings, so they moved it. It's easy enough once you've found it. I'll try to get this written up on userbase today.
When doing the settings in KDE Resources I happened to see that there seems to be a possibility to use an old .vcf file. Perhaps that's a way to use my distribution lists until further. The problem with editing them still remains though as KAddressBook now seems to be unable to open std.vcf. I will experiment a bit when I have the time.
You have to add the std.vcf as a separate addressbook. However, the developers don't recommend doing this. I'd suggest that you read http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_and_AddressBook and then decide according to your own needs. I don't think it does any harm - I have std.vcf set up as a resource on mine - so you should be safe to experiment. As always, make a backup first.
I still stand by the opinion that this should not have been pushed until it was much more mature!
They took the decision to only release things when they felt totally sure that no data was at risk, and I'm sure we all applaud that. It's simply that they thought that their target was home users for whom distribution lists were not a priority. I expect that the fact that few questions are asked about the subject makes them think that few people use it. I do know that working on it is high on the priority list for the developers. I also know that they won't release it until they feel it's totally safe. Note that I said 'safe', not 'perfect' :-)
Once again, thank you for taking the time with my problem.
No problem. I hate mysteries ;-)
Anne
On Tuesday 23 March 2010, Jan Simonson wrote:
Yet this is another case of 'it works for me' - so we have to find out why you have a problem, since it cannot possibly be a faulty package.
If you add a new contact in AddressBook and then open a "new mail" window in Kmail and type the _name_ of the new contact in the to-field does the email- address really come up there as a suggestion for you?
It does NOT for me. I'm the one who started this thread! I just want KMail/KDEPIM to allow me to add entries to the address book and for them to come up when I enter them on the "to" line or search for them in the address book. Currently neither works. I'd like BOTH to work.
If anyone has any ideas on how to make it work, I'd really like to hear!
torsdag 25 mars 2010 skrev John Aldrich:
Yet this is another case of 'it works for me' - so we have to find out why you have a problem, since it cannot possibly be a faulty package.
If you add a new contact in AddressBook and then open a "new mail" window in Kmail and type the name of the new contact in the to-field does the email- address really come up there as a suggestion for you?
It does NOT for me. I'm the one who started this thread! I just want KMail/KDEPIM to allow me to add entries to the address book and for them to come up when I enter them on the "to" line or search for them in the address book. Currently neither works. I'd like BOTH to work.
If anyone has any ideas on how to make it work, I'd really like to hear!
For me the advice from Anne fixed the problem (see her message). Another thing is that some fuctionallity present in earlier versions is now missing now.
Jan
On Thursday 25 March 2010 17:24:10 John Aldrich wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010, Jan Simonson wrote:
Yet this is another case of 'it works for me' - so we have to find out why you have a problem, since it cannot possibly be a faulty package.
If you add a new contact in AddressBook and then open a "new mail" window in Kmail and type the _name_ of the new contact in the to-field does the email- address really come up there as a suggestion for you?
It does NOT for me. I'm the one who started this thread! I just want KMail/KDEPIM to allow me to add entries to the address book and for them to come up when I enter them on the "to" line or search for them in the address book. Currently neither works. I'd like BOTH to work.
If anyone has any ideas on how to make it work, I'd really like to hear!
Check the setup advice in http://userbase.kde.org/KAddressBook
Anne
On Thursday 25 March 2010 19:24:10 John Aldrich wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010, Jan Simonson wrote:
Yet this is another case of 'it works for me' - so we have to find out why you have a problem, since it cannot possibly be a faulty package.
If you add a new contact in AddressBook and then open a "new mail" window in Kmail and type the _name_ of the new contact in the to-field does the email- address really come up there as a suggestion for you?
It does NOT for me. I'm the one who started this thread! I just want KMail/KDEPIM to allow me to add entries to the address book and for them to come up when I enter them on the "to" line or search for them in the address book. Currently neither works. I'd like BOTH to work.
If anyone has any ideas on how to make it work, I'd really like to hear!
K.. Let me state that I agree that this a very unintuitive way of doing things but... These are the steps I took to get a working address book.
1) Make a backup copy of my addressbook vcf file.
2) Go into System Settings -> Advanced -> Akonadi Configuration
3) Exit out of all Kontact apps
4) Delete all the address books (Addressbook, Personal Contacts, etc.)
5) Stop Akonadi
6) Start Akonadi
7) Start Kontact (Akonadi should start. If it doesn't you will need to restart it from Akonadi Reconfiguration.
8) In Akonadi Reconfiguration Create a new Personal Contacts
9) Check to make sure it shows up in Kontact.
10) If your old addresses are still in Contacts then delete them.
12) From Contacts in Kontact, Select the Personal Contacts
13) Click on file and import the old vcf from the original Addressobok.
Hopefully, things will be working just fine.
Like I said this is a horrible way to go about configuring ones PIM. I really do not understand the need to configure a client application by configuring a server. Seems well.... I really don't have the words.
Eli
John....
Just incase you missed my last post
Eli
If anyone has any ideas on how to make it work, I'd really like to hear!
K.. Let me state that I agree that this a very unintuitive way of doing things but... These are the steps I took to get a working address book.
1) Make a backup copy of my addressbook vcf file.
2) Go into System Settings -> Advanced -> Akonadi Configuration
3) Exit out of all Kontact apps
4) Delete all the address books (Addressbook, Personal Contacts, etc.)
5) Stop Akonadi
6) Start Akonadi
7) Start Kontact (Akonadi should start. If it doesn't you will need to restart it from Akonadi Reconfiguration.
8) In Akonadi Reconfiguration Create a new Personal Contacts
9) Check to make sure it shows up in Kontact.
10) If your old addresses are still in Contacts then delete them.
12) From Contacts in Kontact, Select the Personal Contacts
13) Click on file and import the old vcf from the original Addressobok.
Hopefully, things will be working just fine.
Like I said this is a horrible way to go about configuring ones PIM. I really do not understand the need to configure a client application by configuring a server. Seems well.... I really don't have the words.
Eli
tisdag 23 mars 2010 skrev Jaroslav Reznik:
Do you experience this bug - KMail starts in session but before it's ready Akonadi says, it's stopping itself. KMail exits, has to be started manually again (same for KAddressBook) etc. Do we have bug report for this? Upstream bug report? My colleague next to me experience the same problem. If there's no bug, I'll report one.
No, I don't experience this problem.
Jan
Hello Jaroslav,
On Tuesday 23 March 2010, 10:34, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
Do you experience this bug - KMail starts in session but before it's ready Akonadi says, it's stopping itself. KMail exits, has to be started manually again (same for KAddressBook) etc. Do we have bug report for this? Upstream bug report? My colleague next to me experience the same problem. If there's no bug, I'll report one.
yes I do, rather annoying. It is reproducible if you logout KDE with Kontanct open on the systray for example , this way next session Kontact will be restored (well... if you have chosen to restore apps on every session).
Regards
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:34:26 Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 12:20:24 Jan Simonson wrote:
tisdag 23 mars 2010 skrev Anne Wilson:
As you well know, KDE is not a commercial company, with paid employees working 9 to 5. KDE is a community of people who give their best, mostly in their spare time, but sometimes fail to understand what a hash we can all make with tweaking our own systems. Yes there have been problems, but the developers have been responsive in helping us to identify them and fix them.
Most of us do understand this and we appreciate all the work done by the developers, package maintainers and documentation writers. We also like KDE, why would we use it if we didn't?
However, the present situation in a core utility, PIM, risks making people leave KDE for other systems. After all PIM is not just any program, it's where I keep all my personal information!
I know some people are annoyed, but try to be rational about this. As long as some of us can say 'it works for me', we have to accept that the cause of problems may not be in the actual software package.
The last couple of months or so I have silently followed the discussions about the implementation of Akonadi on this list and avoided the testing repository. This is my production system and I want it to be as stable as possible. Last week I upgraded to 4.4.1 from stable. After a lot of work and following the advise given by you and others I now _seem_ to have a stable "Personal Contacts" address-book where I can add, remove and edit contacts. Somehow they also are saved although they don't show up in ~/.local/share/contacts/ until later.
If I click on an email-address in AddressBook a "new mail" window in Kmail opens with the address in the to-field just as expected. If, on the other hand, I open a "new mail" window from Kmail and try to select a contact I'm presented a list which reflects the situation before the migration to Akonadi. Any changes or new entries are not there! I guess, without knowing, that Kmail still reads the old ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf while Akonadi only updates ~/.local/share/contacts/ .
Using Kmail gradually becomes much harder as more and more contacts are added or changed. You now have to look up each contact manually in AddressBook instead of just typing the name in the to-field. Even worse, as you loose track of which addresses have changed you risk using outdated addresses!
How can an update be pushed as "stable" from upstream with a regression like this?
Indeed, this release was the second worst one after 4.0 release - mostly due to Aconadi. I like Akonadi ideas, I'm big fan of it but... We should push upstream to do more work on the release testing (we try to help as much as possible through packaging beta stuff etc.).
Do you experience this bug - KMail starts in session but before it's ready Akonadi says, it's stopping itself. KMail exits, has to be started manually again (same for KAddressBook) etc. Do we have bug report for this? Upstream bug report? My colleague next to me experience the same problem. If there's no bug, I'll report one.
Yep... I experience this bug all the time. It essentially tells me it can't find some resource and then quits.
Eli
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 17:51:35 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
Do you experience this bug - KMail starts in session but before it's ready Akonadi says, it's stopping itself. KMail exits, has to be started manually again (same for KAddressBook) etc. Do we have bug report for this? Upstream bug report? My colleague next to me experience the same problem. If there's no bug, I'll report one.
Yep... I experience this bug all the time. It essentially tells me it can't find some resource and then quits.
And your resources are reported as set up in Akonadi Configuration? Does the Personal Contacts resource exist in KAddressBook?
Anne
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 20:11:20 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 17:51:35 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
Do you experience this bug - KMail starts in session but before it's ready Akonadi says, it's stopping itself. KMail exits, has to be started manually again (same for KAddressBook) etc. Do we have bug report for this? Upstream bug report? My colleague next to me experience the same problem. If there's no bug, I'll report one.
Yep... I experience this bug all the time. It essentially tells me it can't find some resource and then quits.
And your resources are reported as set up in Akonadi Configuration? Does the Personal Contacts resource exist in KAddressBook?
Anne
Of course... Not only that, I had to reboot and when I did that and restarted Akonadi I had suddenly 2 personal address books. I got rid of one of them and things are OK. At least for the time being.
Also discoverd that my imap resources was not loaded. I added that and while indexing Kontact crashed a couple of times. But it seems to be OK now and my filters seem to have returned.
Eli
On Saturday 20 March 2010 14:28:20 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 20 March 2010 14:18:12 John Aldrich wrote:
On Friday 19 March 2010, John Aldrich wrote:
It appears I may have complained too soon. The address is now showing up. I'm not sure what's going on, but I've been trying to add it for a couple days now and it's just now finally showing up. As for the Address book, I'm just using whatever is in KMail 1.13/KDE4.4.x. I did download and install a few Fedora updates this afternoon, so maybe that's what did it, but I tried entering the addresses in Address Book several times and it never seemed to show up, either in Address Book or in the "select" function.
Ok. Here's the deal... it's still not working properly. If I use the "select" button on the to: or cc: lines, I can NOT find the email address I just added a few days ago. In KAddressbook, I can't browse the list of email addresses to find what I'm looking for. However, if I *search* the first few letters of the email address in question, it comes up as "spam reports." Why in the heck can I not find that email address in KAddress book by browsing or using the "select" in KMail to find it? What am I doing wrong?
I don't know - things are changing just too fast. I've no idea where the 'spam reports' comes from. At one point I could use the akonadi configuration to set a default addressbook - but that option doesn't seem to be there any more - if it's moved, perhaps Rex or Kevin knows where?
For the newly added addresses - did you add them to an addressbook that is pointed to std.vcf? According to the developers that's the prime source of data, and the ~/.local/share/contacts is the cached data.
After that, I'm out of ideas. It works for me, but it's immensely frustrating when I can't even find the method I used to get it to work, i.e. set the default addressbook.
Sorry - must have been befuddled. Some of that advice is bad. Please read http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_and_AddressBook for a better explanation.
Anne
On Saturday 20 March 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
Sorry - must have been befuddled. Some of that advice is bad. Please read http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_and_AddressBook for a better explanation.
Well, I've got a bunch of .vcf files in the directory indicated by that KB article. I'm extremely frustrated that it's not working as it's supposed to. I would really appreciate it if the developers would quit adding new features and FIX the ones that are supposed to be there!!!!
Ok, this is really starting to tick me off. I just went in and browsed the address book (Tools ->Address Book). I found the email address entry I was wanting to use. I close Address Book and go to forward some messages to report for spam and try to select or search for the address and it's not there. This is really pi$$ing me off. Can someone PLEASE explain why you can't get there from here???
On Saturday 20 March 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
Sorry - must have been befuddled. Some of that advice is bad. Please read http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_and_AddressBook for a better explanation.
Anne, I'm trying really hard to be calm and collected here, but that website doesn't make any sense. It talks about the Akonadi Tray Icon. WHAT freakin' Akonadi tray icon? I don't HAVE an icon in the tray for Akonadi. The only icon I have related to email is KWallet.
Can you please help me here? I don't think I'm an idiot or a N00bie, as I've been using Linux for years, but I just don't see what that website is talking about. If you're going to refer someone to a knowledgebase article, the least you could do is make sure that it's accurate.
On Sunday 21 March 2010 05:24:10 John Aldrich wrote:
On Saturday 20 March 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
Sorry - must have been befuddled. Some of that advice is bad. Please read http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_and_AddressBook for a better explanation.
Anne, I'm trying really hard to be calm and collected here, but that website doesn't make any sense. It talks about the Akonadi Tray Icon. WHAT freakin' Akonadi tray icon? I don't HAVE an icon in the tray for Akonadi. The only icon I have related to email is KWallet.
Found this one by accident....
Right click on the desktop... type in akonadi... it should show up there.
Eli
On Saturday 20 March 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
I don't know - things are changing just too fast. I've no idea where the 'spam reports' comes from. At one point I could use the akonadi configuration to set a default addressbook - but that option doesn't seem to be there any more - if it's moved, perhaps Rex or Kevin knows where?
For the newly added addresses - did you add them to an addressbook that is pointed to std.vcf? According to the developers that's the prime source of data, and the ~/.local/share/contacts is the cached data.
After that, I'm out of ideas. It works for me, but it's immensely frustrating when I can't even find the method I used to get it to work, i.e. set the default addressbook.
I have no idea where I added them to. I added them to the address book that comes up when you click on "tools ->Address Book" I suspect that it's not the vcf enabled address book.
On Sunday 21 March 2010 05:11:36 John Aldrich wrote:
On Saturday 20 March 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
I don't know - things are changing just too fast. I've no idea where the 'spam reports' comes from. At one point I could use the akonadi configuration to set a default addressbook - but that option doesn't seem to be there any more - if it's moved, perhaps Rex or Kevin knows where?
For the newly added addresses - did you add them to an addressbook that is pointed to std.vcf? According to the developers that's the prime source of data, and the ~/.local/share/contacts is the cached data.
After that, I'm out of ideas. It works for me, but it's immensely frustrating when I can't even find the method I used to get it to work, i.e. set the default addressbook.
I have no idea where I added them to. I added them to the address book that comes up when you click on "tools ->Address Book" I suspect that it's not the vcf enabled address book.
Try this...
1) Exit out of Contact completely... Including the Korganizer reminder daemon and kwallet if its running.
2) Stop Akonadi
3) Make sure that Nepomuk is running.
4) Make a backup of the folder ~/.local/share/akonadi
5) Restart Akonadi
6) Start Kontact
7) In the Akonadi configuration tool, add the resources that you need.
Eli
On Sunday 21 March 2010 07:42:29 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2010 05:11:36 John Aldrich wrote:
On Saturday 20 March 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
I don't know - things are changing just too fast. I've no idea where the 'spam reports' comes from. At one point I could use the akonadi configuration to set a default addressbook - but that option doesn't seem to be there any more - if it's moved, perhaps Rex or Kevin knows where?
For the newly added addresses - did you add them to an addressbook that is pointed to std.vcf? According to the developers that's the prime source of data, and the ~/.local/share/contacts is the cached data.
After that, I'm out of ideas. It works for me, but it's immensely frustrating when I can't even find the method I used to get it to work, i.e. set the default addressbook.
I have no idea where I added them to. I added them to the address book that comes up when you click on "tools ->Address Book" I suspect that it's not the vcf enabled address book.
Try this...
- Exit out of Contact completely... Including the Korganizer reminder
daemon and kwallet if its running.
Stop Akonadi
Make sure that Nepomuk is running.
Make a backup of the folder ~/.local/share/akonadi
OOPS Forget to add the following step..
4b) After you've made a backup of the akonadi folder, delete the original.
Eli
Restart Akonadi
Start Kontact
In the Akonadi configuration tool, add the resources that you need.
Eli
Disregard my message about the .vcf files. I figured out I had to add a new address book, and pointed it back to the "old" address book.
Eli, Anne: I have tried Eli's suggestion and it does not help. I still cannot select or search for the spam report email address that I entered in the KMail address book. :-( It just does not show up. In addition, when I went back to the address book immediately after following Eli's instructions, that email address was not in there. Any suggestions on how to make it "save" that address book entry?
On Sunday 21 March 2010 15:34:05 John Aldrich wrote:
Eli, Anne: I have tried Eli's suggestion and it does not help. I still cannot select or search for the spam report email address that I entered in the KMail address book. :-( It just does not show up. In addition, when I went back to the address book immediately after following Eli's instructions, that email address was not in there. Any suggestions on how to make it "save" that address book entry?
For clarity's sake, let's start afresh. First, if you haven't set up the tray icon (type akonadi into krunner and select it), do it now.
Right-click on the icon and select Configure. List the addressbook resources you see there. For each one, check Modify and tell us where it points to.
You will almost certainly see some 'Offline' messages - ignore them. It's a known bug that has no impact on your work.
Then open KAddressBook - either within Kontact or stand-alone and tell us what addressbooks you have there.
We'll tackle your saving problem once we know exactly what you have and haven't got set up.
Anne
On Sunday 21 March 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
For clarity's sake, let's start afresh. First, if you haven't set up the tray icon (type akonadi into krunner and select it), do it now.
Right-click on the icon and select Configure. List the addressbook resources you see there. For each one, check Modify and tell us where it points to.
Two Address book entries, both point to ~/.local/share/contacts/
You will almost certainly see some 'Offline' messages - ignore them. It's a known bug that has no impact on your work.
Then open KAddressBook - either within Kontact or stand-alone and tell us what addressbooks you have there.
"Personal Contacts"
We'll tackle your saving problem once we know exactly what you have and haven't got set up.
Sounds good. I did post a similar question in the KDE-PIM list and Ingo Klocker said it may be because not everything is ported over to Akonadi yet. Which begs the question, why make the changes to an app without making sure the "fix" is ready? This is really what frustrates me about major upgrades like this... I had a problem several years ago that required a different email client for awhile, so I tried an app called Pronto, but then they decided to make a change similar to what KDE-PIM is doing and require a database. Fortunately, at that time, whatever problem I'd had with KMail back then was resolved, but it's frustrating when major changes like this are made and the changes to the app are not complete when the update is released.
On Sunday 21 March 2010 17:37:14 John Aldrich wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
For clarity's sake, let's start afresh. First, if you haven't set up the tray icon (type akonadi into krunner and select it), do it now.
Right-click on the icon and select Configure. List the addressbook resources you see there. For each one, check Modify and tell us where it points to.
Two Address book entries, both point to ~/.local/share/contacts/
You will almost certainly see some 'Offline' messages - ignore them. It's a known bug that has no impact on your work.
Then open KAddressBook - either within Kontact or stand-alone and tell us what addressbooks you have there.
"Personal Contacts"
We'll tackle your saving problem once we know exactly what you have and haven't got set up.
Sounds good. I did post a similar question in the KDE-PIM list and Ingo Klocker said it may be because not everything is ported over to Akonadi yet. Which begs the question, why make the changes to an app without making sure the "fix" is ready? This is really what frustrates me about major upgrades like this... I had a problem several years ago that required a different email client for awhile, so I tried an app called Pronto, but then they decided to make a change similar to what KDE-PIM is doing and require a database. Fortunately, at that time, whatever problem I'd had with KMail back then was resolved, but it's frustrating when major changes like this are made and the changes to the app are not complete when the update is released.
Yes, I saw that comment and didn't understand it. The thing is that (apart from the missing distribution lists and some fields not yet visible) kaddressbook works flawlessly here - I can even create a Group from the dialog that asks if you want to create a distribution list from the addresses in a mail. Sometimes the reason someone's having a problem is obvious, but sometimes it's just impossible to guess.
OK - Personal Contacts is your akonadi controlled addressbook - assuming that the migration went properly. Just check ~/.local/share/contacts/ and make sure you can see records there - if you can, that's one thing eliminated.
I'm really struggling to think of something that we haven't already checked. It seems unlikely to be a permissions thing, but I assume that you've already checked that.
Just remind me, which versions of Fedora, KDE and Kontact are you using?
Anne
On Sunday 21 March 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
Yes, I saw that comment and didn't understand it. The thing is that (apart from the missing distribution lists and some fields not yet visible) kaddressbook works flawlessly here - I can even create a Group from the dialog that asks if you want to create a distribution list from the addresses in a mail. Sometimes the reason someone's having a problem is obvious, but sometimes it's just impossible to guess.
OK - Personal Contacts is your akonadi controlled addressbook - assuming that the migration went properly. Just check ~/.local/share/contacts/ and make sure you can see records there - if you can, that's one thing eliminated.
Yep. That's correct. There are a bunch of .vcf files there.
I'm really struggling to think of something that we haven't already checked. It seems unlikely to be a permissions thing, but I assume that you've already checked that.
Permissions are 40775, and I'm both the owner and the group.
Just remind me, which versions of Fedora, KDE and Kontact are you using?
Is Kontact the same thing as KMail? If so, the version of KMail is 1.13.1, KDE 4.4.1, Fedora 11.
On Sunday 21 March 2010 19:13:50 John Aldrich wrote:
OK - Personal Contacts is your akonadi controlled addressbook - assuming that the migration went properly. Just check ~/.local/share/contacts/ and make sure you can see records there - if you can, that's one thing eliminated.
Yep. That's correct. There are a bunch of .vcf files there.
Good - so the migration has gone through correctly
I'm really struggling to think of something that we haven't already checked. It seems unlikely to be a permissions thing, but I assume that you've already checked that.
Permissions are 40775, and I'm both the owner and the group.
Hmm - I'm both owner and group, but my permissions are -rw-rw-r-- - I wonder whether the world read flag is needed for it to work correctly. I suspect that akonadi may be a user that needs to read - guesswork, but it may be worth a try - you can always revert if it doesn't solve the problem.
Just remind me, which versions of Fedora, KDE and Kontact are you using?
Is Kontact the same thing as KMail? If so, the version of KMail is 1.13.1, KDE 4.4.1, Fedora 11.
Kontact is the container if you can see KMail, KAddressbook, KOrganizer etc in the navigation panel. If you start KMail alone, you won't see them. I have KMail 1.13.1, KDE 4.4.1, but Fedora 12. I don't know whether there's any significant difference between the F11 version and the F12 one.
Try the permissions - you've nothing to lose.
Anne
On Sunday 21 March 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
I'm really struggling to think of something that we haven't already checked. It seems unlikely to be a permissions thing, but I assume that you've already checked that.
Permissions are 40775, and I'm both the owner and the group.
Hmm - I'm both owner and group, but my permissions are -rw-rw-r-- - I wonder whether the world read flag is needed for it to work correctly. I suspect that akonadi may be a user that needs to read - guesswork, but it may be worth a try - you can always revert if it doesn't solve the problem.
Mine was rw-rw-rx. I have changed it to rw-rw-r. We'll see how that goes.
On Sunday 21 March 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2010 17:37:14 John Aldrich wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
For clarity's sake, let's start afresh. First, if you haven't set up the tray icon (type akonadi into krunner and select it), do it now.
Right-click on the icon and select Configure. List the addressbook resources you see there. For each one, check Modify and tell us where it points to.
Two Address book entries, both point to ~/.local/share/contacts/
You will almost certainly see some 'Offline' messages - ignore them. It's a known bug that has no impact on your work.
Then open KAddressBook - either within Kontact or stand-alone and tell us what addressbooks you have there.
"Personal Contacts"
We'll tackle your saving problem once we know exactly what you have and haven't got set up.
Sounds good. I did post a similar question in the KDE-PIM list and Ingo Klocker said it may be because not everything is ported over to Akonadi yet. Which begs the question, why make the changes to an app without making sure the "fix" is ready? This is really what frustrates me about major upgrades like this... I had a problem several years ago that required a different email client for awhile, so I tried an app called Pronto, but then they decided to make a change similar to what KDE-PIM is doing and require a database. Fortunately, at that time, whatever problem I'd had with KMail back then was resolved, but it's frustrating when major changes like this are made and the changes to the app are not complete when the update is released.
Yes, I saw that comment and didn't understand it. The thing is that (apart from the missing distribution lists and some fields not yet visible) kaddressbook works flawlessly here - I can even create a Group from the dialog that asks if you want to create a distribution list from the addresses in a mail. Sometimes the reason someone's having a problem is obvious, but sometimes it's just impossible to guess.
OK - Personal Contacts is your akonadi controlled addressbook - assuming that the migration went properly. Just check ~/.local/share/contacts/ and make sure you can see records there - if you can, that's one thing eliminated.
I'm really struggling to think of something that we haven't already checked. It seems unlikely to be a permissions thing, but I assume that you've already checked that.
Just remind me, which versions of Fedora, KDE and Kontact are you using?
Anne
Oh, one other thing I just noticed. In the Akonadi configuration, I also have std.vcf in there. Not sure if that makes a difference or not.
On Sunday 21 March 2010 19:15:12 John Aldrich wrote:
Oh, one other thing I just noticed. In the Akonadi configuration, I also have std.vcf in there. Not sure if that makes a difference or not.
No, that's fine. I have set up an addressbook pointing to that in kaddressbook, but that was at the beginning when I was guessing about everything, and it seemed a safeguard. However, since tokoe told me that we shouldn't use that, there doesn't seem any point in setting that up. Your Personal Contacts will have all the same records.
Anne
On Sunday 21 March 2010 18:51:05 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2010 15:34:05 John Aldrich wrote:
Eli, Anne: I have tried Eli's suggestion and it does not help. I still cannot select or search for the spam report email address that I entered in the KMail address book. :-( It just does not show up. In addition, when I went back to the address book immediately after following Eli's instructions, that email address was not in there. Any suggestions on how to make it "save" that address book entry?
For clarity's sake, let's start afresh. First, if you haven't set up the tray icon (type akonadi into krunner and select it), do it now.
Right-click on the icon and select Configure. List the addressbook resources you see there. For each one, check Modify and tell us where it points to.
You will almost certainly see some 'Offline' messages - ignore them. It's a known bug that has no impact on your work.
Then open KAddressBook - either within Kontact or stand-alone and tell us what addressbooks you have there.
We'll tackle your saving problem once we know exactly what you have and haven't got set up.
Anne
I just tried to save a test new contact in a standard vcf file. I added the entry, pressed on OK and got a dialogue box asking me to select which address book I wanted to save the new contact in. But, it was completely blank.
Eli
On Sunday 21 March 2010 19:45:03 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2010 18:51:05 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2010 15:34:05 John Aldrich wrote:
Eli, Anne: I have tried Eli's suggestion and it does not help. I still cannot select or search for the spam report email address that I entered in the KMail address book. :-( It just does not show up. In addition, when I went back to the address book immediately after following Eli's instructions, that email address was not in there. Any suggestions on how to make it "save" that address book entry?
For clarity's sake, let's start afresh. First, if you haven't set up the tray icon (type akonadi into krunner and select it), do it now.
Right-click on the icon and select Configure. List the addressbook resources you see there. For each one, check Modify and tell us where it points to.
You will almost certainly see some 'Offline' messages - ignore them. It's a known bug that has no impact on your work.
Then open KAddressBook - either within Kontact or stand-alone and tell us what addressbooks you have there.
We'll tackle your saving problem once we know exactly what you have and haven't got set up.
Anne
I just tried to save a test new contact in a standard vcf file. I added the entry, pressed on OK and got a dialogue box asking me to select which address book I wanted to save the new contact in. But, it was completely blank.
OK... This is getting weird. I just created a personal address book, and then it saved the contact in the address book that I have selected without asking. In my "Address Book" and my "Personal Address Book" After I removed the new "Personal Address Book" Things seem to be working just fine.
A thing that make you go hmmmm.
Eli
On Sunday 21 March 2010 17:55:00 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2010 19:45:03 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2010 18:51:05 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2010 15:34:05 John Aldrich wrote:
Eli, Anne: I have tried Eli's suggestion and it does not help. I still cannot select or search for the spam report email address that I entered in the KMail address book. :-( It just does not show up. In addition, when I went back to the address book immediately after following Eli's instructions, that email address was not in there. Any suggestions on how to make it "save" that address book entry?
For clarity's sake, let's start afresh. First, if you haven't set up the tray icon (type akonadi into krunner and select it), do it now.
Right-click on the icon and select Configure. List the addressbook resources you see there. For each one, check Modify and tell us where it points to.
You will almost certainly see some 'Offline' messages - ignore them. It's a known bug that has no impact on your work.
Then open KAddressBook - either within Kontact or stand-alone and tell us what addressbooks you have there.
We'll tackle your saving problem once we know exactly what you have and haven't got set up.
Anne
I just tried to save a test new contact in a standard vcf file. I added the entry, pressed on OK and got a dialogue box asking me to select which address book I wanted to save the new contact in. But, it was completely blank.
OK... This is getting weird. I just created a personal address book, and then it saved the contact in the address book that I have selected without asking. In my "Address Book" and my "Personal Address Book" After I removed the new "Personal Address Book" Things seem to be working just fine.
A thing that make you go hmmmm.
Strange. Personal Contacts seems to be the default label for the migrated addressbook. After talking to one of the developers I wrote up what he had told me on http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_and_AddressBook#Examining_your_Resources
I'm not sure how that tallies with what you saw - does it help at all?
Still, the main thing is that you have it working now, although I'd love to know the reason.
Anne
On Sunday 21 March 2010 20:34:10 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2010 17:55:00 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2010 19:45:03 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2010 18:51:05 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2010 15:34:05 John Aldrich wrote:
Eli, Anne: I have tried Eli's suggestion and it does not help. I still cannot select or search for the spam report email address that I entered in the KMail address book. :-( It just does not show up. In addition, when I went back to the address book immediately after following Eli's instructions, that email address was not in there. Any suggestions on how to make it "save" that address book entry?
For clarity's sake, let's start afresh. First, if you haven't set up the tray icon (type akonadi into krunner and select it), do it now.
Right-click on the icon and select Configure. List the addressbook resources you see there. For each one, check Modify and tell us where it points to.
You will almost certainly see some 'Offline' messages - ignore them. It's a known bug that has no impact on your work.
Then open KAddressBook - either within Kontact or stand-alone and tell us what addressbooks you have there.
We'll tackle your saving problem once we know exactly what you have and haven't got set up.
Anne
I just tried to save a test new contact in a standard vcf file. I added the entry, pressed on OK and got a dialogue box asking me to select which address book I wanted to save the new contact in. But, it was completely blank.
OK... This is getting weird. I just created a personal address book, and then it saved the contact in the address book that I have selected without asking. In my "Address Book" and my "Personal Address Book" After I removed the new "Personal Address Book" Things seem to be working just fine.
A thing that make you go hmmmm.
Strange. Personal Contacts seems to be the default label for the migrated addressbook. After talking to one of the developers I wrote up what he had told me on http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_and_AddressBook#Examining_your_Resources
I'm not sure how that tallies with what you saw - does it help at all?
Still, the main thing is that you have it working now, although I'd love to know the reason.
Anne
I'd have liked to have known the reason as well. However here's a bit more weirdness... I just added the "Personal Contacts" and it appeared OK. And it seemed to have synced my contacts just fine. Then I deleted my "Address Book" and they both disappeared. Then added the "Personal Contacts" again and my contacts appeared. I can save and delete just fine.
sigh.... "I soooo confused" :( :D
Eli
On Sunday 21 March 2010 20:21:50 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
I'd have liked to have known the reason as well. However here's a bit more weirdness... I just added the "Personal Contacts" and it appeared OK. And it seemed to have synced my contacts just fine. Then I deleted my "Address Book" and they both disappeared. Then added the "Personal Contacts" again and my contacts appeared. I can save and delete just fine.
sigh.... "I soooo confused" :( :D
I'm not surprised. I expect that one day we will suddenly realise what we had missed, and wonder how we missed it :-)
Anne
Well, now that I've gotten it so I can find contacts from the "select" menu in composer, I can no longer open KAddressBook at all. WTF??? All I get now is a freaking KOrganizer daemon when I click on tools ->Address Book!
This is SO FRUSTRATING!!! Can't you guys FIX this, PLEASE???
On Thursday 25 March 2010 21:09:47 John Aldrich wrote:
Well, now that I've gotten it so I can find contacts from the "select" menu in composer, I can no longer open KAddressBook at all. WTF??? All I get now is a freaking KOrganizer daemon when I click on tools ->Address Book!
This is SO FRUSTRATING!!! Can't you guys FIX this, PLEASE???
We can not fix YOU! If you are getting KOrganizer when you open KAddressBook you have done something incredibly stupid in the setup, and I can't imagine what it can be. Please read the instructions again and try to follow them this time.
Anne
On Friday 26 March 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
We can not fix YOU! If you are getting KOrganizer when you open KAddressBook you have done something incredibly stupid in the setup, and I can't imagine what it can be. Please read the instructions again and try to follow them this time.
Well, I've got it working now. Ended up having to launch Kontact instead of KMail, which, to me, is a huge waste of screen resources, but I managed to hide all the extra junk I don't need, so I'll wait for the next release of KDE to avoid messing this up any worse than it is.
I stick by my feeling that if KDE developers hadn't broken integration, I wouldn't have had to mess with things to begin with.
Please, guys...if at all possible, look at releasing a repair upgrade for Kmail/Kontact/KDEPIM that repairs the broken integration, and please... if a central app like this is not completely ready, don't release the upgrade in the future!
On Friday 26 March 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
We can not fix YOU! If you are getting KOrganizer when you open KAddressBook you have done something incredibly stupid in the setup, and I can't imagine what it can be. Please read the instructions again and try to follow them this time.
Anne, I don't believe you and I are ever going to see eye-to-eye on this problem, so let me just say this: If the Userbase article were clear instead of giving vague, general instructions, I might not have messed it up.
Not to mention that if KDE 4.4 hadn't broken integration, it would be a moot point to begin with!
I STILL have no freaking clue what I did, and I don't believe that going back to the Userbase article is going to do me any good since there's a very big lack of details on how to reintegrate KAB and KMail since KDE 4.4 broke that integration! I'm not going to try until someone posts detailed instructions on how to fix it. At least I can look up addresses using the "select" mechanism now, where I couldn't before.
I would appreciate it If you, or someone else, could advise when the article on the Userbase site has been updated with detailed, step-by-step directions and not "country cookin' recipe" style information (i.e. "until it looks right" or "until it tastes right") which it is now, IMNSHO.
On Friday 26 March 2010 16:34:26 John Aldrich wrote:
I STILL have no freaking clue what I did
And there's the clue to the whole mess you're in. You have no method in tackling the problem.
Anne
On Sunday 21 March 2010 06:42:29 am Eli Wapniarski wrote:
Try this...
i just upgraded f11 -> f12 to get read of akonady+nepomuk annoying warnings. So...let's try :)
- Exit out of Contact completely... Including the Korganizer reminder
daemon and kwallet if its running.
yes, i did
- Stop Akonadi
yes i did
- Make sure that Nepomuk is running.
it's running: [ maumar@matanui: ~/.local/share ] $ ps ax|grep nepo 2133 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/bin/nepomukserver
- Make a backup of the folder ~/.local/share/akonadi
i did
- Restart Akonadi
here is the output:
[ maumar@matanui: ~/.local/share ] $ akonadictl start Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) Starting Akonadi Server... done. [ maumar@matanui: ~/.local/share ] $ Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) [akonadiserver] search paths: ("/opt/android_sdk_linux_m3-rc37a/tools", "/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin", "/usr/kerberos/sbin", "/usr/kerberos/bin", "/usr/lib/ccache", "/opt/android_sdk_linux_m3-rc37a/tools", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/bin", "/bin", "/home/maumar/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/libexec", "/usr/libexec", "/opt/mysql/libexec", "/opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin") [akonadiserver] Failed to use database "akonadi" [akonadiserver] Query error: "Unknown database 'akonadi' QMYSQL: Unable to execute query" [akonadiserver] Database error: "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/home/maumar/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket' (2) QMYSQL: Unable to connect" [akonadiserver] Trying to create database now... [akonadiserver] Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" [akonadiserver] DbInitializer::run() [akonadiserver] checking table "SchemaVersionTable" [akonadiserver] "CREATE TABLE SchemaVersionTable (version INTEGER NOT NULL);" [akonadiserver] checking table "ResourceTable" [akonadiserver] "CREATE TABLE ResourceTable (id BIGINT NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY AUTO_INCREMENT, name VARCHAR(255) BINARY NOT NULL UNIQUE, isVirtual BOOL DEFAULT false);" [akonadiserver] checking table "CollectionTable" [akonadiserver] "CREATE TABLE CollectionTable (id BIGINT NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY AUTO_INCREMENT, remoteId TEXT , name VARCHAR(255) BINARY character set utf8 collate utf8_bin NOT NULL, parentId BIGINT DEFAULT NULL REFERENCES CollectionTable(id) ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE, resourceId BIGINT NOT NULL REFERENCES ResourceTable(id) ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE, subscribed BOOL NOT NULL DEFAULT true, cachePolicyInherit BOOL NOT NULL DEFAULT true, cachePolicyCheckInterval INTEGER NOT NULL DEFAULT -1, cachePolicyCacheTimeout INTEGER NOT NULL DEFAULT -1, cachePolicySyncOnDemand BOOL NOT NULL DEFAULT false, cachePolicyLocalParts TEXT );" [akonadiserver] adding index "CREATE UNIQUE INDEX CollectionTable_parentAndNameIndex ON CollectionTable (parentId,name);" [akonadiserver] checking table "MimeTypeTable" [akonadiserver] "CREATE TABLE MimeTypeTable (id BIGINT NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY AUTO_INCREMENT, name VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL UNIQUE);" [akonadiserver] checking table "PimItemTable" [akonadiserver] "CREATE TABLE PimItemTable (id BIGINT NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY AUTO_INCREMENT, rev INTEGER NOT NULL DEFAULT 0, remoteId TEXT , collectionId BIGINT REFERENCES CollectionTable(id) ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE, mimeTypeId BIGINT REFERENCES MimeTypeTable(id) ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE, datetime TIMESTAMP DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP, atime TIMESTAMP , dirty BOOL , size BIGINT NOT NULL DEFAULT 0);" [akonadiserver] adding index "CREATE INDEX PimItemTable_collectionIndex ON PimItemTable (collectionId);" [akonadiserver] checking table "FlagTable" [akonadiserver] "CREATE TABLE FlagTable (id BIGINT NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY AUTO_INCREMENT, name VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL UNIQUE);" [akonadiserver] checking table "PartTable" [akonadiserver] "CREATE TABLE PartTable (id BIGINT NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY AUTO_INCREMENT, pimItemId BIGINT NOT NULL REFERENCES PimItemTable(id) ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE, name VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL, data LONGBLOB , datasize BIGINT NOT NULL, version INTEGER DEFAULT 0, external BOOL , FOREIGN KEY (pimItemId) REFERENCES PimItemTable(id) ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE);" [akonadiserver] adding index "CREATE UNIQUE INDEX PartTable_pimItemIdNameIndex ON PartTable (pimItemId,name);" [akonadiserver] checking table "CollectionAttributeTable" [akonadiserver] "CREATE TABLE CollectionAttributeTable (id BIGINT NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY AUTO_INCREMENT, collectionId BIGINT NOT NULL REFERENCES CollectionTable(id) ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE, type LONGBLOB NOT NULL, value LONGBLOB );" [akonadiserver] adding index "CREATE INDEX CollectionAttributeTable_collectionIndex ON CollectionAttributeTable (collectionId);" [akonadiserver] checking relation "PimItemFlagRelation" [akonadiserver] "CREATE TABLE PimItemFlagRelation (PimItem_id INTEGER REFERENCES PimItemTable(id) , Flag_id INTEGER REFERENCES FlagTable(id) , PRIMARY KEY (PimItem_id, Flag_id));" [akonadiserver] checking relation "CollectionMimeTypeRelation" [akonadiserver] "CREATE TABLE CollectionMimeTypeRelation (Collection_id INTEGER REFERENCES CollectionTable(id) , MimeType_id INTEGER REFERENCES MimeTypeTable(id) , PRIMARY KEY (Collection_id, MimeType_id));" [akonadiserver] checking relation "CollectionPimItemRelation" [akonadiserver] "CREATE TABLE CollectionPimItemRelation (Collection_id INTEGER REFERENCES CollectionTable(id) , PimItem_id INTEGER REFERENCES PimItemTable(id) , PRIMARY KEY (Collection_id, PimItem_id));" [akonadiserver] DbInitializer::run() done [akonadiserver] skipping update 2 [akonadiserver] skipping update 3 [akonadiserver] skipping update 4 [akonadiserver] skipping update 8 [akonadiserver] skipping update 10 [akonadiserver] skipping update 12 [akonadiserver] skipping update 13 [akonadiserver] skipping update 14 [akonadiserver] Nepomuk QueryServer interface not available! [akonadiserver] Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) [akonadiserver] DataStore::unhideAllPimItems() PLUGINS: "/usr/share/akonadi/agents" PLUGINS: ("birthdaysresource.desktop", "contactsresource.desktop", "icalresource.desktop", "imapresource.desktop", "kabcresource.desktop", "kcalresource.desktop", "knutresource.desktop", "kolabproxyresource.desktop", "localbookmarksresource.desktop", "maildirresource.desktop", "maildispatcheragent.desktop", "mboxresource.desktop", "microblog.desktop", "mtdummyresource.desktop", "nepomukcalendarfeeder.desktop", "nepomukcontactfeeder.desktop", "nepomukemailfeeder.desktop", "nepomuktagresource.desktop", "nntpresource.desktop", "notesresource.desktop", "pop3resource.desktop", "vcarddirresource.desktop", "vcardresource.desktop") search paths: ("/opt/android_sdk_linux_m3-rc37a/tools", "/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin", "/usr/kerberos/sbin", "/usr/kerberos/bin", "/usr/lib/ccache", "/opt/android_sdk_linux_m3-rc37a/tools", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/bin", "/bin", "/home/maumar/bin") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_birthdays_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_contacts_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_ical_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_imap_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_kabc_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_kcal_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_knut_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_kolabproxy_resource" 0 ("Resource", "Unique", "NoConfig") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_localbookmarks_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_maildir_resource" 1 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_maildispatcher_agent" 0 ("Unique", "Autostart", "NoConfig") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_mbox_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_microblog_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_mailtransport_dummy_resource" 0 ("Resource", "MailTransport") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_nepomuk_calendar_feeder" 0 ("Unique", "NoConfig") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder" 0 ("Unique", "Autostart", "NoConfig") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_nepomuk_email_feeder" 0 ("Unique") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_nepomuktag_resource" 0 ("Resource", "Virtual", "Unique", "NoConfig") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_nntp_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_notes_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_pop3_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_vcarddir_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_vcard_resource" 0 ("Resource") [akonadiserver] Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" [akonadiserver] Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" [/usr/bin/akonadi_maildir_resource] akonadi_maildir_resource_0(8180): Couldn't remove lockfile "/var/tmp/kdecache-maumar/kpc/kde-icon- cache.lock" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)" Error in thread 3079256528 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)/nepomuk (library) <unnamed>::GlobalModelContainer::init: Connecting to local socket "/home/maumar/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/socket" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)" Error in thread 3079256528 : "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)/nepomuk (library) <unnamed>::GlobalModelContainer::init: Failed to connect to Nepomuk server via local socket "/home/maumar/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/socket" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)" Error in thread 3079256528 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)/nepomuk (library) <unnamed>::GlobalModelContainer::init: Connecting to local socket "/home/maumar/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/socket" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)" Error in thread 3079256528 : "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)/nepomuk (library) <unnamed>::GlobalModelContainer::init: Failed to connect to Nepomuk server via local socket "/home/maumar/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/socket" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)" Error in thread 3079256528 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)/nepomuk (library) <unnamed>::GlobalModelContainer::init: Connecting to local socket "/home/maumar/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/socket" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)" Error in thread 3079256528 : "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)/nepomuk (library) <unnamed>::GlobalModelContainer::init: Failed to connect to Nepomuk server via local socket "/home/maumar/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/socket" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)" Error in thread 3079256528 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)/nepomuk (library) <unnamed>::GlobalModelContainer::init: Connecting to local socket "/home/maumar/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/socket" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)" Error in thread 3079256528 : "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)/nepomuk (library) <unnamed>::GlobalModelContainer::init: Failed to connect to Nepomuk server via local socket "/home/maumar/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/socket" [akonadiserver] Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] Nepomuk server already running. [akonadiserver] Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" [/usr/bin/akonadi_maildispatcher_agent] akonadi_maildispatcher_agent(8181)/libakonadi Akonadi::DefaultResourceJob::slotResult: "Unknown resource" [/usr/bin/akonadi_maildispatcher_agent] akonadi_maildispatcher_agent(8181)/libakonadi Akonadi::ResourceScanJob::Private::fetchResult: "Unknown resource" [/usr/bin/akonadi_maildispatcher_agent] akonadi_maildispatcher_agent(8181)/libakonadi Akonadi::SpecialCollectionsRequestJobPrivate::resourceScanResult: Failed to request resource "akonadi_maildir_resource_0" : "Unknown error. (Unknown resource)" [/usr/bin/akonadi_maildispatcher_agent] akonadi_maildispatcher_agent(8181) OutboxQueue::Private::localFoldersRequestResult: Failed to get outbox folder. [akonadiserver] Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL"
as far as i can see, there is some issue..but maybe they are warning and i don't have to be worried about them
to get my address book back: 7) In the Akonadi configuration tool, add the resources that you need. system Settings/Advanced/Akonadu Configuration/Akonadi resources on the left i see Add.. Modify... Remove 3 buttons i click on Add.. i select to add an adress book resource, i selected a Folder source, i entered a path very different by that one it proposed me:
this one: ~/.local/share/contacts
a clicnk on apply and i got a stream of errors, i suppose 3 lines for each vcf: something like these: [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)" Error in thread 3079256528 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)/nepomuk (library) <unnamed>::GlobalModelContainer::init: Connecting to local socket "/home/maumar/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/socket" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)" Error in thread 3079256528 : "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)/nepomuk (library) <unnamed>::GlobalModelContainer::init: Failed to connect to Nepomuk server via local socket "/home/maumar/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/socket" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)" Error in thread 3079256528 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)" Error in thread 3079256528 : "Unsupported operation (2)": "Invalid model" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)" Error in thread 3079256528 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)" Error in thread 3079256528 : "Unsupported operation (2)": "Invalid model" [/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder] "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(8182)" Error in thread 3079256528 : "Unsupported operation (2)": "Invalid model"
at last I have my address book again
thnx for your help
-m
On 03/21/2010 12:18 PM, Maurizio Marini wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2010 06:42:29 am Eli Wapniarski wrote:
Try this...
i just upgraded f11 -> f12 to get read of akonady+nepomuk annoying warnings. So...let's try :)
- Exit out of Contact completely... Including the Korganizer reminder
daemon and kwallet if its running.
yes, i did
- Stop Akonadi
yes i did
- Make sure that Nepomuk is running.
it's running: [ maumar@matanui: ~/.local/share ] $ ps ax|grep nepo 2133 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/bin/nepomukserver
- Make a backup of the folder ~/.local/share/akonadi
i did
- Restart Akonadi
here is the output:
[ maumar@matanui: ~/.local/share ] $ akonadictl start Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) Starting Akonadi Server... done. [ maumar@matanui: ~/.local/share ] $ Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) [akonadiserver] search paths: ("/opt/android_sdk_linux_m3-rc37a/tools", "/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin", "/usr/kerberos/sbin", "/usr/kerberos/bin", "/usr/lib/ccache", "/opt/android_sdk_linux_m3-rc37a/tools", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/bin", "/bin", "/home/maumar/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/libexec", "/usr/libexec", "/opt/mysql/libexec", "/opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin") [akonadiserver] Failed to use database "akonadi"
These /opt/mysql paths are worrisome. Do you have a custom mysql install here? If so, it may be getting in the way (ie, it's broken).
-- Rex
Maurizio Marini wrote:
i just upgraded f11 -> f12 to get read of akonady+nepomuk annoying warnings. So...let's try :)
That shouldn't change anything. The Akonadi-related packages are exactly the same in F11 updates and F12 updates. The kde-settings update which fixes the annoying warning was pushed to both F11 and F12 as well.
Kevin Kofler
On Sunday 21 March 2010 03:11:36 John Aldrich wrote:
On Saturday 20 March 2010, Anne Wilson wrote:
I don't know - things are changing just too fast. I've no idea where the 'spam reports' comes from. At one point I could use the akonadi configuration to set a default addressbook - but that option doesn't seem to be there any more - if it's moved, perhaps Rex or Kevin knows where?
For the newly added addresses - did you add them to an addressbook that is pointed to std.vcf? According to the developers that's the prime source of data, and the ~/.local/share/contacts is the cached data.
After that, I'm out of ideas. It works for me, but it's immensely frustrating when I can't even find the method I used to get it to work, i.e. set the default addressbook.
I have no idea where I added them to. I added them to the address book that comes up when you click on "tools ->Address Book" I suspect that it's not the vcf enabled address book.
Well that's a route I've never even noticed before - and it doesn't work here. I've always used one of two methods - to open kaddressbook (normally within kontact) and add them direct, or by right-clicking on the address in an email and 'Add to Addressbook'. That then asks which addressbook I want to add to, and I select Personal Contacts.
Anne
John.... Anne....
This is starting to get a bit much.
Look John.... As far as I can tell and I've been on this mailing list for a long time, no one has made more of an effort to be helpful as Anne.
Anne there are a great many problems with Akonadi and not just inexperienced users are having trouble with it. Jaroslav, Me and others I'm sure.
Be that as it may.... John the right place to vent is at the KDEPim developers. The packagers and those that participate in this mailing list can only be as helpful as their experience allows them to be and the quality of the software that they have to work with. I understand your frustration, but it isn't Anne's fault.
Anne, the KDEPim team botched it this time round.
And like I keep harping. Somehow, a way needs to be found to apply some kind of pressure to improve QA and to pay greater heed to user concerns over at KDE.
Eli
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