Gnome&KDE soup

[Orcan Ogetbil]

This had happened to me once in the past, with two different versions
of KDE (3.4.x) and Gnome (?). But I could never reproduce it.
It just started happening again (3 times in the past week).

There is no obvious action to trigger this event. It can happen while
I am browsing the web or while my computer is idle for a couple hours.

The KDE desktop just vanishes. The panel stays, but the desktop turns
to Gnome. Today something of the strangest happened. Half of the
screen turned to Gnome, the other half remained KDE.
My panels are (and hence the plasma is) still active. The panel on the
left is auto-hiding so it is not visible in the pictures below, but
that one works too when I bring the mouse pointer to the left side of
the screen.
Here are two screenshots:

On this one I took the screenshot while I right-clicked on the Gnome
part of my desktop:
http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mixture1jc6.jpg

whereas on this one I right-click on the KDE part of the desktop:
http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mixture2eq0.jpg

I am mainly using KDE and switch to Gnome once every couple months
(just for the fun of it). Currently I have
kdebase-4.1.96-1.fc10.x86_64
kdebase-workspace-4.1.96-4.fc10.x86_64
kdelibs-4.1.96-9.fc10.x86_64
qt-4.4.3-10.fc10.x86_64
gdm-2.24.0-12.fc10.x86_64
gtk2-2.14.5-3.fc10.x86_64
gnome-desktop-2.24.2-1.fc10.x86_64
etc installed.

I am not sure where to report this bug. Is this a Gnome bug or a KDE
bug or is it something else?

This will probably be my candidate for the weirdest Linux bug ever.

-Orcan

[Orcan Ogetbil]

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
>  This had happened to me once in the past, with two different
> versions
>  of KDE (3.4.x) and Gnome (?). But I could never reproduce it.
>  It just started happening again (3 times in the past week).
>
>  There is no obvious action to trigger this event. It can happen while
>  I am browsing the web or while my computer is idle for a couple hours.
>
>  The KDE desktop just vanishes. The panel stays, but the desktop turns
>  to Gnome. Today something of the strangest happened. Half of the
>  screen turned to Gnome, the other half remained KDE.
>  My panels are (and hence the plasma is) still active. The panel on the
>  left is auto-hiding so it is not visible in the pictures below, but
>  that one works too when I bring the mouse pointer to the left side of
>  the screen.
>  Here are two screenshots:
>
>  On this one I took the screenshot while I right-clicked on the Gnome
>  part of my desktop:
>  http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mixture1jc6.jpg
>
>  whereas on this one I right-click on the KDE part of the desktop:
>  http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mixture2eq0.jpg
>
>  I am mainly using KDE and switch to Gnome once every couple months
>  (just for the fun of it). Currently I have
>  kdebase-4.1.96-1.fc10.x86_64
>  kdebase-workspace-4.1.96-4.fc10.x86_64
>  kdelibs-4.1.96-9.fc10.x86_64
>  qt-4.4.3-10.fc10.x86_64
>  gdm-2.24.0-12.fc10.x86_64
>  gtk2-2.14.5-3.fc10.x86_64
>  gnome-desktop-2.24.2-1.fc10.x86_64
>  etc installed.
>
>  I am not sure where to report this bug. Is this a Gnome bug or a KDE
>  bug or is it something else?
>
>  This will probably be my candidate for the weirdest Linux bug ever.
>
>  -Orcan
>  
Am I diagnosed with a one-in-a-million disease that no doctor knows about?

-Orcan

[Jaroslav Reznik]

On Tuesday 27 of January 2009 19:31:33 Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
>  On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
>  > This had happened to me once in the past, with two different versions
>  > of KDE (3.4.x) and Gnome (?). But I could never reproduce it.
>  > It just started happening again (3 times in the past week).
>  >
>  > There is no obvious action to trigger this event. It can happen while
>  > I am browsing the web or while my computer is idle for a couple hours.
>  >
>  > The KDE desktop just vanishes. The panel stays, but the desktop turns
>  > to Gnome. Today something of the strangest happened. Half of the
>  > screen turned to Gnome, the other half remained KDE.
>  > My panels are (and hence the plasma is) still active. The panel on the
>  > left is auto-hiding so it is not visible in the pictures below, but
>  > that one works too when I bring the mouse pointer to the left side of
>  > the screen.
>  > Here are two screenshots:
>  >
>  > On this one I took the screenshot while I right-clicked on the Gnome
>  > part of my desktop:
>  > http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mixture1jc6.jpg
>  >
>  > whereas on this one I right-click on the KDE part of the desktop:
>  > http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mixture2eq0.jpg
>  >
>  > I am mainly using KDE and switch to Gnome once every couple months
>  > (just for the fun of it). Currently I have
>  > kdebase-4.1.96-1.fc10.x86_64
>  > kdebase-workspace-4.1.96-4.fc10.x86_64
>  > kdelibs-4.1.96-9.fc10.x86_64
>  > qt-4.4.3-10.fc10.x86_64
>  > gdm-2.24.0-12.fc10.x86_64
>  > gtk2-2.14.5-3.fc10.x86_64
>  > gnome-desktop-2.24.2-1.fc10.x86_64
>  > etc installed.
>  >
>  > I am not sure where to report this bug. Is this a Gnome bug or a KDE
>  > bug or is it something else?
>  >
>  > This will probably be my candidate for the weirdest Linux bug ever.
>  >
>  > -Orcan
>
>  Am I diagnosed with a one-in-a-million disease that no doctor knows about?
>
>  -Orcan
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Hmm, something similar happened to me too - when Plasma crashed - I had 
Nautilus running under it. It was OK for new virgin accounts - something bad 
in my (and I think your too) profile.

Any idea from someone? I can't reproduce it anymore after profile cleanup.

R. 
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[Martin Kho]

On Wednesday 28 January 2009 10:53:54 Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>  On Tuesday 27 of January 2009 19:31:33 Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
>  > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
>  > > This had happened to me once in the past, with two different versions
>  > > of KDE (3.4.x) and Gnome (?). But I could never reproduce it.
>  > > It just started happening again (3 times in the past week).
>  > >
>  > > There is no obvious action to trigger this event. It can happen while
>  > > I am browsing the web or while my computer is idle for a couple hours.
>  > >
>  > > The KDE desktop just vanishes. The panel stays, but the desktop turns
>  > > to Gnome. Today something of the strangest happened. Half of the
>  > > screen turned to Gnome, the other half remained KDE.
>  > > My panels are (and hence the plasma is) still active. The panel on the
>  > > left is auto-hiding so it is not visible in the pictures below, but
>  > > that one works too when I bring the mouse pointer to the left side of
>  > > the screen.
>  > > Here are two screenshots:
>  > >
>  > > On this one I took the screenshot while I right-clicked on the Gnome
>  > > part of my desktop:
>  > > http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mixture1jc6.jpg
>  > >
>  > > whereas on this one I right-click on the KDE part of the desktop:
>  > > http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mixture2eq0.jpg
>  > >
>  > > I am mainly using KDE and switch to Gnome once every couple months
>  > > (just for the fun of it). Currently I have
>  > > kdebase-4.1.96-1.fc10.x86_64
>  > > kdebase-workspace-4.1.96-4.fc10.x86_64
>  > > kdelibs-4.1.96-9.fc10.x86_64
>  > > qt-4.4.3-10.fc10.x86_64
>  > > gdm-2.24.0-12.fc10.x86_64
>  > > gtk2-2.14.5-3.fc10.x86_64
>  > > gnome-desktop-2.24.2-1.fc10.x86_64
>  > > etc installed.
>  > >
>  > > I am not sure where to report this bug. Is this a Gnome bug or a KDE
>  > > bug or is it something else?
>  > >
>  > > This will probably be my candidate for the weirdest Linux bug ever.
>  > >
>  > > -Orcan
>  >
>  > Am I diagnosed with a one-in-a-million disease that no doctor knows
>  > about?
>  >
>  > -Orcan
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > fedora-kde mailing list
>  > fedora-kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kde
>
>  Hmm, something similar happened to me too - when Plasma crashed - I had
>  Nautilus running under it. It was OK for new virgin accounts - something
>  bad in my (and I think your too) profile.
>
>  Any idea from someone? I can't reproduce it anymore after profile cleanup. 
Are you using nvidia propriety drivers? There were some posts on the nvidia 
mailing list discussing these sort of issues. So I'm not sure if it has to do 
with KDE or the 'crappy closed source' nvidia drivers :-)

I, too, use nvidia drivers. The 'split-screen' problem that Orcan shows in his 
pics, seems to be reproduceable by resizing the panel. When I increase the 
panels height, say two or three times, the desktop will be split in a black 
part and a 2.5 cm. part of my original desktop at the top of the screen.

Pic of the 'split' desktop:

http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1tj4.png

Martin Kho

>  R.

[Martin Kho]

On Wednesday 28 January 2009 12:01:12 Martin Kho wrote:
>  On Wednesday 28 January 2009 10:53:54 Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>  > On Tuesday 27 of January 2009 19:31:33 Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
>  > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
>  > > > This had happened to me once in the past, with two different versions
>  > > > of KDE (3.4.x) and Gnome (?). But I could never reproduce it.
>  > > > It just started happening again (3 times in the past week).
>  > > >
>  > > > There is no obvious action to trigger this event. It can happen while
>  > > > I am browsing the web or while my computer is idle for a couple
>  > > > hours.
>  > > >
>  > > > The KDE desktop just vanishes. The panel stays, but the desktop turns
>  > > > to Gnome. Today something of the strangest happened. Half of the
>  > > > screen turned to Gnome, the other half remained KDE.
>  > > > My panels are (and hence the plasma is) still active. The panel on
>  > > > the left is auto-hiding so it is not visible in the pictures below,
>  > > > but that one works too when I bring the mouse pointer to the left
>  > > > side of the screen.
>  > > > Here are two screenshots:
>  > > >
>  > > > On this one I took the screenshot while I right-clicked on the Gnome
>  > > > part of my desktop:
>  > > > http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mixture1jc6.jpg
>  > > >
>  > > > whereas on this one I right-click on the KDE part of the desktop:
>  > > > http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mixture2eq0.jpg
>  > > >
>  > > > I am mainly using KDE and switch to Gnome once every couple months
>  > > > (just for the fun of it). Currently I have
>  > > > kdebase-4.1.96-1.fc10.x86_64
>  > > > kdebase-workspace-4.1.96-4.fc10.x86_64
>  > > > kdelibs-4.1.96-9.fc10.x86_64
>  > > > qt-4.4.3-10.fc10.x86_64
>  > > > gdm-2.24.0-12.fc10.x86_64
>  > > > gtk2-2.14.5-3.fc10.x86_64
>  > > > gnome-desktop-2.24.2-1.fc10.x86_64
>  > > > etc installed.
>  > > >
>  > > > I am not sure where to report this bug. Is this a Gnome bug or a KDE
>  > > > bug or is it something else?
>  > > >
>  > > > This will probably be my candidate for the weirdest Linux bug ever.
>  > > >
>  > > > -Orcan
>  > >
>  > > Am I diagnosed with a one-in-a-million disease that no doctor knows
>  > > about?
>  > >
>  > > -Orcan
>  > > _______________________________________________
>  > > fedora-kde mailing list
>  > > fedora-kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kde
>  >
>  > Hmm, something similar happened to me too - when Plasma crashed - I had
>  > Nautilus running under it. It was OK for new virgin accounts - something
>  > bad in my (and I think your too) profile.
>  >
>  > Any idea from someone? I can't reproduce it anymore after profile
>  > cleanup.
>
>  Are you using nvidia propriety drivers? There were some posts on the nvidia
>  mailing list discussing these sort of issues. So I'm not sure if it has to
>  do with KDE or the 'crappy closed source' nvidia drivers :-)
>
>  I, too, use nvidia drivers. The 'split-screen' problem that Orcan shows in
>  his pics, seems to be reproduceable by resizing the panel. When I increase
>  the panels height, say two or three times, the desktop will be split in a
>  black part and a 2.5 cm. part of my original desktop at the top of the
>  screen.
>
>  Pic of the 'split' desktop:
>
>  http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1tj4.png
>
>  Martin Kho 
Update: I have tried it with the 'nv' driver (had try it before), with the 
same result. What was in the previous post black is now white. Looks like a 
problem with KDE 4.2? Does anyone else have seen this?

Martin


>  > R.
>
>  _______________________________________________
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>  fedora-kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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[Andreas Petzold]

> > Pic of the 'split' desktop:
> >
> > http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1tj4.png
> >
> > Martin Kho
>
>  Update: I have tried it with the 'nv' driver (had try it before), with the
>  same result. What was in the previous post black is now white. Looks like a
>  problem with KDE 4.2? Does anyone else have seen this? 
I've seen something like this a couple of times on my laptop with the  
intel driver. Restarting plasma usually helps.

Cheers,

Andreas