Here is another web page Konqueror doesn't display properly.

[linux guy]

I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but here is another page that
Konqueror isn't displaying properly.

I have an advertisement for the City of Calgary sitting on top of text
and a picture.

http://calsun.canoe.ca/Business/home.html

The first issue I reported seemed to get attention, thus I'll try this
again.  It would be great if I/we had the email address of someone that
we could send issues like this to for attention.

Thanks.

[Sven Lankes]

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 07:12:47AM -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> The first issue I reported seemed to get attention, thus I'll try this
> again.  It would be great if I/we had the email address of someone that
> we could send issues like this to for attention.

http://bugs.kde.org

[linux guy]

On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 15:46 +0100, Sven Lankes wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 07:12:47AM -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > The first issue I reported seemed to get attention, thus I'll try this
> > again.  It would be great if I/we had the email address of someone that
> > we could send issues like this to for attention.
>
> http://bugs.kde.org

I'm frustrated entering bugs into bugzillas.  Its a 15 minute process
logging in, searching to see if its already entered, filling everything
in, etc.  Bugzilla needs a template that users can prefill for various
bugs to speed things up.

And half the time it doesn't get looked at for weeks and by that time
the page isn't up anymore.

I got upset with Konqueror a couple years ago and did a blitz of
entering bug reports for web pages that didn't work.  The results were
pretty dismal.  I gave up.

[Rex Dieter]

Linuxguy123 wrote:
> I got upset with Konqueror a couple years ago and did a blitz of
> entering bug reports for web pages that didn't work.  The results were
> pretty dismal.  I gave up.

I invite you not to give up.  kde has grown a healthier and growing bug
triage effort since then (similar to fedora).

-- Rex

[Sven Lankes]

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 08:46:33AM -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > http://bugs.kde.org
> I'm frustrated entering bugs into bugzillas.  Its a 15 minute process
> logging in, searching to see if its already entered, filling everything
> in, etc.  Bugzilla needs a template that users can prefill for various
> bugs to speed things up.

Yes - reporting bugs can be frustrating and bugzilla is not (always) a very
userfriendly piece of software.
> And half the time it doesn't get looked at for weeks and by that time
> the page isn't up anymore.

That is how free software works. The best (browser)-bugreports are those
where the bugs are already isolated with the test-case attached to the
bug and not buried in 200k of html.

Well defined bugs will increase the probablility of a quick fix tremendously.
> I got upset with Konqueror a couple years ago and did a blitz of
> entering bug reports for web pages that didn't work.  The results were
> pretty dismal.  I gave up.

Maybe spending some time on bug-triage of konqueror-bugs would be a good
way to help out for you then?

Yes - sometimes bugs rot in $bugtracker until they're no longer relevant
but that is the price you pay for free software.

[Jaroslav Reznik]

On Wednesday 28 of January 2009 17:12:54 Sven Lankes wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 08:46:33AM -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > > http://bugs.kde.org
> >
> > I'm frustrated entering bugs into bugzillas.  Its a 15 minute process
> > logging in, searching to see if its already entered, filling everything
> > in, etc.  Bugzilla needs a template that users can prefill for various
> > bugs to speed things up.
>
> Yes - reporting bugs can be frustrating and bugzilla is not (always) a very
> userfriendly piece of software.

Especially KDE bugzilla is not userfriendly :(
> > And half the time it doesn't get looked at for weeks and by that time
> > the page isn't up anymore.
>
> That is how free software works. The best (browser)-bugreports are those
> where the bugs are already isolated with the test-case attached to the
> bug and not buried in 200k of html.
>
> Well defined bugs will increase the probablility of a quick fix
> tremendously.
> > I got upset with Konqueror a couple years ago and did a blitz of
> > entering bug reports for web pages that didn't work.  The results were
> > pretty dismal.  I gave up.
>
> Maybe spending some time on bug-triage of konqueror-bugs would be a good
> way to help out for you then?
>
> Yes - sometimes bugs rot in $bugtracker until they're no longer relevant
> but that is the price you pay for free software.

[Eelko Berkenpies]

http://konqueror.kde.org/developers/

Check the bottom of the page. Apparently they've got an active mailing list 
too. Perhaps reporting the issues over there might help? :)

[linux guy]

On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 10:37 +0100, Eelko Berkenpies wrote:
> http://konqueror.kde.org/developers/
>
> Check the bottom of the page. Apparently they've got an active mailing list 
> too. Perhaps reporting the issues over there might help? :)

Very good idea.  I'll act on that.  Thanks.