WTF "Executing Dolphin with kdesu is not possible due to unfixable security vulnerabilities"

[Emmett Culley]

I updated my workstation (fedora 34) this morning and when I tried to run dolphin as root
I saw the above message.

What are the KDE developers thinking?  I am a developer (30 years) and am often needing to
alter something on my workstation as root.  What possible reason would the dophin devloper
have to prevent me from doing that?

It is not as if a new KDE user might accidentally enable that functionality.  Who the heck
(putting it extremely mildly) are they trying to protect?

I used to use Konqueror until this same thing happened.  Konqueror had advantages, like
profiles, that made it hard to give up, but I did give it up because I needed occasional
root access more than I needed profiles.  Why should I have to change my ways because some
developers have a nanny complex.

Emmett

[Sérgio Basto]

On Fri, 2021-08-27 at 08:57 -0700, Emmett Culley wrote:
>  I updated my workstation (fedora 34) this morning and when I tried
> to
>  run dolphin as root I saw the above message.
>  
>  What are the KDE developers thinking?  I am a developer (30 years) and
>  am often needing to alter something on my workstation as root.  What
>  possible reason would the dophin devloper have to prevent me from doing
>  that?
>  
>  It is not as if a new KDE user might accidentally enable that
>  functionality.  Who the heck (putting it extremely mildly) are they
>  trying to protect?
>  
>  I used to use Konqueror until this same thing happened.  Konqueror had
>  advantages, like profiles, that made it hard to give up, but I did give
>  it up because I needed occasional root access more than I needed
>  profiles.  Why should I have to change my ways because some developers
>  have a nanny complex. 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[e-mail]...


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Sérgio M. B.

[Emmett Culley]

On 8/27/21 9:27 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
>  On Fri, 2021-08-27 at 08:57 -0700, Emmett Culley wrote:
> > I updated my workstation (fedora 34) this morning and when I tried to
> > run dolphin as root I saw the above message.
> >
> > What are the KDE developers thinking?  I am a developer (30 years) and
> > am often needing to alter something on my workstation as root.  What
> > possible reason would the dophin devloper have to prevent me from doing
> > that?
> >
> > It is not as if a new KDE user might accidentally enable that
> > functionality.  Who the heck (putting it extremely mildly) are they
> > trying to protect?
> >
> > I used to use Konqueror until this same thing happened.  Konqueror had
> > advantages, like profiles, that made it hard to give up, but I did give
> > it up because I needed occasional root access more than I needed
> > profiles.  Why should I have to change my ways because some developers
> > have a nanny complex.
>  
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[e-mail]...
>  
>   
Thanks Sergio and thank you Kevin Kofler.  Kevin "fixed" konqueror the
same way when that debacle first happened.

However, none of that mitigates KDE developers taking it upon themselves to tell me how to
do my work.

Sure, make it difficult to run anything as root, but also make it possible for informed
users to alter that configuration.

kdesu seemed like enough of a requirement, as it required a user to get educated while
jumping thorough some hoops.

Now I have to patch those apps to use them how I want to use them.  Thanks again Kevin.

Emmett

[Vitaly Zaitsev]

On 27/08/2021 17:57, Emmett Culley wrote:
>  What are the KDE developers thinking?  I am a developer (30 years)
> and 
>  am often needing to alter something on my workstation as root.  What 
>  possible reason would the dophin devloper have to prevent me from doing 
>  that? 
https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2017/02/editing-files-as-root/

-- 
Sincerely,
   Vitaly Zaitsev (vitaly(a)easycoding.org)