problem placing pager in F26 KDE

[George Avrunin]

I have a fully-updated Fedora 26 machine and I use 12 desktops in 4 rows of
3, with the pager sitting just above the (bottom) panel in the lower
right corner of the screen.  This arrangement has worked in KDE for a long
time (and I've had a pager in the lower right corner since I was using fvwm a
long time ago, so I want to keep it here).

But since I upgraded to F26 (using "dnf system-upgrade"), I've had trouble
keeping the pager in that location.  It seems to want to be in the lower
left.  Initially, I couldn't even move it more than about 7/8 to the right
along the panel; if I went farther than that, the pager would just snap back
to the lower left corner.  And though I could move it to the right edge if I
kept it far enough above the panel, when I started to move it down, it would
shrink to a minuscule size. 

After killing off the instance of the pager that was running, I've been able
to get a new instance to move most of the way into the lower right corner and
stay there until I log out.  But whenever I log back in, the pager has moved
to the lower left corner (even if I lock before logging off widgets).  

I've created a new user on two different machines and seen the same
behavior.  A web search didn't turn up any indication of changes in the pager
that would affect its location or any other reports of this sort of problem.  

Does anybody know what's going on?  Or how I can get more information?

Thanks,

  George

[George Avrunin]

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 13:05:34 -0400, George Avrunin <avrunin(a)math.umass.edu&gt;
wrote:

>  I have a fully-updated Fedora 26 machine and I use 12 desktops in 4
> rows of
>  3, with the pager sitting just above the (bottom) panel in the lower
>  right corner of the screen.  This arrangement has worked in KDE for a long
>  time (and I've had a pager in the lower right corner since I was using fvwm a
>  long time ago, so I want to keep it here).
>  
>  But since I upgraded to F26 (using "dnf system-upgrade"), I've had trouble
>  keeping the pager in that location.  It seems to want to be in the lower
>  left.  Initially, I couldn't even move it more than about 7/8 to the right
>  along the panel; if I went farther than that, the pager would just snap back
>  to the lower left corner.  And though I could move it to the right edge if I
>  kept it far enough above the panel, when I started to move it down, it would
>  shrink to a minuscule size. 
>  
>  After killing off the instance of the pager that was running, I've been able
>  to get a new instance to move most of the way into the lower right corner and
>  stay there until I log out.  But whenever I log back in, the pager has moved
>  to the lower left corner (even if I lock before logging off widgets).  
>  
>  I've created a new user on two different machines and seen the same
>  behavior.  A web search didn't turn up any indication of changes in the pager
>  that would affect its location or any other reports of this sort of problem.  
>  
>  Does anybody know what's going on?  Or how I can get more information?
>  
>  Thanks,
>  
>    George 
From the lack of response, I guess nobody else is having this problem.  I've
now also tried moving the panel to a different edge, with no change in
behavior.  

I have filed bug 382759 at bugs.kde.org.

  George

[Ed Greshko]

On 07/27/2017 12:06 AM, George Avrunin wrote:
>  On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 13:05:34 -0400, George Avrunin
> <avrunin(a)math.umass.edu&gt;
>  wrote:
>
> > I have a fully-updated Fedora 26 machine and I use 12 desktops in 4 rows of
> > 3, with the pager sitting just above the (bottom) panel in the lower
> > right corner of the screen.  This arrangement has worked in KDE for a long
> > time (and I've had a pager in the lower right corner since I was using fvwm a
> > long time ago, so I want to keep it here).
> >
> > But since I upgraded to F26 (using "dnf system-upgrade"), I've had
> trouble
> > keeping the pager in that location.  It seems to want to be in the lower
> > left.  Initially, I couldn't even move it more than about 7/8 to the right
> > along the panel; if I went farther than that, the pager would just snap back
> > to the lower left corner.  And though I could move it to the right edge if I
> > kept it far enough above the panel, when I started to move it down, it would
> > shrink to a minuscule size. 
> >
> > After killing off the instance of the pager that was running, I've been able
> > to get a new instance to move most of the way into the lower right corner and
> > stay there until I log out.  But whenever I log back in, the pager has moved
> > to the lower left corner (even if I lock before logging off widgets).  
> >
> > I've created a new user on two different machines and seen the same
> > behavior.  A web search didn't turn up any indication of changes in the pager
> > that would affect its location or any other reports of this sort of problem.  
> >
> > Does anybody know what's going on?  Or how I can get more information?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >   George
>  From the lack of response, I guess nobody else is having this problem.  I've
>  now also tried moving the panel to a different edge, with no change in
>  behavior.  
>
>  I have filed bug 382759 at bugs.kde.org. 
Well, I normally keep my pager on the left side. 

I don't like to change me everyday configuration.  But I have a VM and tried to
recreate your problem and I could not.  The pager stays firmly anchored to the right
hand side of the desktop just above the digital clock.

This is what it looks like for me.  Is this what you expect?  
http://tinyurl.com/ycqcx8v6

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[George Avrunin]

On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 13:48:21 +0800, Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com&gt; wrote:

>  Well, I normally keep my pager on the left side. 
>  
>  I don't like to change me everyday configuration.  But I have a VM and tried to
>  recreate your problem and I could not.  The pager stays firmly anchored to the right
>  hand side of the desktop just above the digital clock.
>  
>  This is what it looks like for me.  Is this what you expect?  
>  http://tinyurl.com/ycqcx8v6 
Thanks for checking!

In your image, the pager isn't all the way to the right; it's not really
above the digital clock. (Actually, it doesn't seem possible to put the
pager right up against any of the edges, which I don't really understand.)  I
would like to have it sitting all the way in the lower right corner (touching
the right edge and top of the panel).  I found that I could move it about 7/8
of the way to the right edge and it would stay there, so I'm not sure from the
image whether yours is just doing that, or would stay as far to the right as
you can get it.  I'm trying to get something like this to be stable across
logins: http://ext.math.umass.edu/~avrunin/Screenshot_20170727_163024.png

As you can see, I keep mine bigger than the one in your image, but I
tried moving a small one to the right and it was in the lower left corner
when I logged in next.   I would assume this was just some problem with my
configuration, but it happened with a brand new scratch user, too.

[Ed Greshko]

On 07/28/2017 04:36 AM, George Avrunin wrote:
>  On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 13:48:21 +0800, Ed Greshko
> <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com&gt; wrote:
>
> > Well, I normally keep my pager on the left side. 
> >
> > I don't like to change me everyday configuration.  But I have a VM and tried to
> > recreate your problem and I could not.  The pager stays firmly anchored to the right
> > hand side of the desktop just above the digital clock.
> >
> > This is what it looks like for me.  Is this what you expect?  
> > http://tinyurl.com/ycqcx8v6
>  Thanks for checking!
>
>  In your image, the pager isn't all the way to the right; it's not really
>  above the digital clock. (Actually, it doesn't seem possible to put the
>  pager right up against any of the edges, which I don't really understand.)  I
>  would like to have it sitting all the way in the lower right corner (touching
>  the right edge and top of the panel).  I found that I could move it about 7/8
>  of the way to the right edge and it would stay there, so I'm not sure from the
>  image whether yours is just doing that, or would stay as far to the right as
>  you can get it.  I'm trying to get something like this to be stable across
>  logins: http://ext.math.umass.edu/~avrunin/Screenshot_20170727_163024.png
>
>  As you can see, I keep mine bigger than the one in your image, but I
>  tried moving a small one to the right and it was in the lower left corner
>  when I logged in next.   I would assume this was just some problem with my
>  configuration, but it happened with a brand new scratch user, too. 
>  
OK, thanks for the screenshot.  With that I can verify your observation.

I think it has to do with the "handle" you get when you click and hold on the
pager
and how close you can place it to the edge.  I looked, not very carefully, but I
couldn't see a setting to move widget handles to the left side.



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