6:33 p.m.
For some reason, laptop 1 only asks me once
for my wallet password when I reboot,
and never if I hibernate.
However, laptop 2 repeated asks
for my kdewallet password
when I launch an application.
Can I safely disable kdewallet?
I really don't understand what it is for.
I just find it a nuisance,
and it doesn't make me feel any safer.
5:45 a.m.
On Friday 30 July 2010 00:33:36 Timothy Murphy wrote:
For some reason,
laptop 1 only asks me once
for my wallet password when I reboot,
and
never if I hibernate.
It is configured that way.
System Settings ->
Account details -> kde wallet -> access control
However, laptop 2
repeated asks
for my kdewallet password
when I launch an
application.
There is an option on access control that literally
says:
Prompt when an application accesses an open wallet
Can I safely
disable kdewallet?
I really don't understand what it is for.
I just
find it a nuisance,
and it doesn't make me feel any safer.
The wallet
allows you to store passwords in a single place guarded by a master
password. It is extremely effective for what it was
designed.
Examples:
reading PDF password protected documents
accessing web
sites that require a password
amarok
kmail/kontact
konqueror
(ftp/ssh/...)
knetworkmanager
The advantage is that the passwords for these
services are not stored on a plain format and that is really a good
thing.
--
José Abílio
7:57 a.m.
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 11:45 +0100, José Matos wrote:
The wallet
allows you to store passwords in a single place guarded by a master
password. It is extremely effective for what it was
designed.
Examples:
reading PDF password protected documents
accessing web
sites that require a password
amarok
kmail/kontact
konqueror
(ftp/ssh/...)
knetworkmanager
The advantage is that the passwords for these
services are not stored on a plain format and that is really a good
thing.
This is certainly true, but it's very unfortunate that anyone using a
Gnome app under KDE (e.g. Evolution) also has to deal with the
completely separate gnome-keyring system. AFAIK kdewallet and
gnome-keyring do essentially the same thing but they don't talk to each
other. It would be so much better to have a unified system that
supported both APIs, but I guess that's never going to happen.
poc
8:06 a.m.
2010/7/30 Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com>
This is certainly true, but it's very unfortunate that anyone
using a
Gnome app under KDE (e.g. Evolution) also has to deal with the
completely separate gnome-keyring system. AFAIK kdewallet and
gnome-keyring do essentially the same thing but they don't talk to each
other. It would be so much better to have a unified system that
supported both APIs, but I guess that's never going to happen.
It was an effort in this way, I don't know its current status:
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16581 (see the last comment).
--
Christian González G.
http://chgonzalez.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/chgonzalez
8:24 a.m.
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 09:06 -0400, Christian González wrote:
2010/7/30 Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com>
This is certainly true, but it's very unfortunate that anyone
using a
Gnome app under KDE (e.g. Evolution) also has to deal with the
completely separate gnome-keyring system. AFAIK kdewallet and
gnome-keyring do essentially the same thing but they don't
talk to each
other. It would be so much better to have a unified system
that
supported both APIs, but I guess that's never going to happen.
It was an effort in this way, I don't know its current
status: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16581 (see the
last comment).
The last comment is over a year old, however there is a small amount of
mailing list activity (see
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/authentication). A cursory
glance at it gives me the impression what people are talking about a
complete rethink of what these apps actually do (the idea is to have a
new Secrets Service that any desktop app can tap into). This sounds nice
but I think we're going to have to be patient.
poc
5:54 p.m.
José Matos wrote:
> For some reason, laptop 1 only asks me once
> for my wallet password when I reboot,
> and never if I hibernate.
It is configured that way.
System Settings ->
Account details -> kde wallet -> access control
> However, laptop 2 repeatedly asks for my kdewallet password
> when I launch an application.
There is an option on access control that literally
says:
Prompt when an application accesses an open wallet
> Can I safely disable kdewallet?
> I really don't understand what it is for.
> I just find it a nuisance,
> and it doesn't make me feel any safer.
The wallet
allows you to store passwords in a single place guarded by a master
password. It is extremely effective for what it was
designed.
I'm afraid my query was based on a misunderstanding.
I assumed that KDE wallet was a new invention
intended to supplement kwallet.
As I understand it now, they are the same thing
confusedly given two names.
In my f-menu I have two items,
kwalletmanager and KDE Wallet .
Clicking on kwalletmanager does nothing that I can see,
but I note that after clicking on it
there is an application /usr/bin/kwalletmanager running.
It is not clear to me what this does,
or how one is meant to interact with it.
As I recall, there used to be a wallet icon in the panel
if one was using this mechanism
but I haven't seen since many Fedora distributions ago.
Examples:
knetworkmanager
...
The advantage is that the passwords for these
services are not stored on a plain format and that is really a good
thing.
I appreciate the point of the wallet mechanism.
As I said, I thought KDEwallet was an addition to this,
rather as kdenetwork is an addition to NetworkManager.
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