kontact make me creazy

[Mario Santagiuliana]

Hi to all,
I am using kontact/kmail to manage my emails accounts.
I have a lot of data to manage, I have a lot of filter to apply to my 
emails. Before kmail2 no problems, nothing! From kmail2 kde and kontact are 
impossible to use.
Kmail2 use akonadi and all time I open kontact I need to wait 5-10 minutes 
before I can see one email. 
mysqld use all my cpu too much times. I am on laptop, if I am using battery 
it is better for me to don't open kmail and view my emails because the cpu 
is nearly all the time at 100% usage from mysqld akonadi and 
akonadi_nepomuk (I don't enable nepomunk on systemsettings, I don't need 
it).
Every time kmail auto-downloading emails from server I have a windows that 
asking me how to resolve a conflict of downloaded emails.

I don't understand how to resolve all of these issues.
I am using kde-pim 4.7.4.

Have you got any suggestion?
-- 
Mario Santagiuliana
www.marionline.it

[Timothy Murphy]

Mario Santagiuliana wrote:

>  I don't understand how to resolve all of these issues.
>  I am using kde-pim 4.7.4. 
I can't help you.

But I can tell you that you are not alone ...
I've given up on Kontacts/KAddressBook
and gone over to Google Contacts.
I'm still using KMail, but not for ever.

I wonder if anyone is actually working on KMail2 and its relations?


-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: [phone]
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Tuesday 21 February 2012 23:13:12 Timothy Murphy wrote:
>  
>  I wonder if anyone is actually working on KMail2 and its relations? 
Actually, there have been some bugs fixed in the 4.8 branch. We're waiting for 
4.8.1 to be built and pushed to Fedora stable in early March, as Rex said. 
There will be some improvements to KMail2.

Best, :-)
Marko

[Mario Santagiuliana]

In data mercoledì 22 febbraio 2012 02:07:05, Marko Vojinovic ha scritto:
>  On Tuesday 21 February 2012 23:13:12 Timothy Murphy wrote:
>  > I wonder if anyone is actually working on KMail2 and its relations?
>  
>  Actually, there have been some bugs fixed in the 4.8 branch. We're
>  waiting for 4.8.1 to be built and pushed to Fedora stable in early
>  March, as Rex said. There will be some improvements to KMail2.
>  
>  Best, :-)
>  Marko 
Thank you guys for your answer!
I would like to help in development but I am not a C/C++ developer...

I hope to see the new version with some improves. I can test it when it 
push in updates-testing.

Thanks!
-- 
Mario Santagiuliana
www.marionline.it

[Gregor Tätzner]

On Wednesday 22 February 2012 12:54:05 Mario Santagiuliana wrote:
>  In data mercoledì 22 febbraio 2012 02:07:05, Marko Vojinovic ha
> scritto:
>  > On Tuesday 21 February 2012 23:13:12 Timothy Murphy wrote:
>  > > I wonder if anyone is actually working on KMail2 and its relations?
>  > 
>  > Actually, there have been some bugs fixed in the 4.8 branch. We're
>  > waiting for 4.8.1 to be built and pushed to Fedora stable in early
>  > March, as Rex said. There will be some improvements to KMail2.
>  > 
>  > Best, :-)
>  > Marko
>  
>  Thank you guys for your answer!
>  I would like to help in development but I am not a C/C++ developer...
>  
>  I hope to see the new version with some improves. I can test it when it
>  push in updates-testing.
>  
>  Thanks! 
Or can try out http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rdieter/kde48/.  These 
packages will be pushed to updates later on (after getting upgraded to kde 
4.8.1)

[Timothy Murphy]

Gregor Tätzner wrote:

>  Or can try out http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rdieter/kde48/. 
> These
>  packages will be pushed to updates later on (after getting upgraded to kde
>  4.8.1) 
If I install these, will I later be able to update
from the standard repositories?
Ie will I be able to re-join the common-or-garden path?


-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: [phone]
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin

[Rex Dieter]

On 02/22/2012 07:22 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>  Gregor Tätzner wrote:
>
> > Or can try out http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rdieter/kde48/.  These
> > packages will be pushed to updates later on (after getting upgraded to kde
> > 4.8.1)
>
>  If I install these, will I later be able to update
>  from the standard repositories? 
yes, we've made efforts to ensure that upgrading to official/standard 
4.8.x updates should work ok.

-- rex

[Timothy Murphy]

Gregor Tätzner wrote:

>  Or can try out http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rdieter/kde48/. 
> These
>  packages will be pushed to updates later on (after getting upgraded to kde
>  4.8.1) 
I've followed this advice, adding Rex Dieter's repo and updating.
I haven't tested KMail fully, but I have determined that
the Tools=>Find Messages facility is no better than it was before.

To repeat a bugzilla I posted a week or so ago:
=========================================
As I recall, KMail=>Tools=>Find Messages
used to search through the currently opened folder (eg Inbox)

Now it seems to search through all folders,
which in my case means tens of thousands of emails.

Also, it says at the bottom "0 matches in Last Search"
even though it has found dozens of matches.

Also, most of the searches (eg From) do not seem to work properly.

Finally, there are many blank lines is the list of finds.

This facility seems to be in a complete mess,
and has been for many months.
=========================================

I was advised in response to this bugzilla to go over to 4.8.x ,
which I have now done.
Sadly it appears to have had zero effect on this aspect of KMail2.


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Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: [phone]
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin

[Martin Airs]

On Friday 24 Feb 2012 11:24:04 Timothy Murphy wrote:
>  Gregor Tätzner wrote:
>  > Or can try out http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rdieter/kde48/.  These
>  > packages will be pushed to updates later on (after getting upgraded to kde
>  > 4.8.1)
>  
>  I've followed this advice, adding Rex Dieter's repo and updating.
>  I haven't tested KMail fully, but I have determined that
>  the Tools=>Find Messages facility is no better than it was before.
>  
>  To repeat a bugzilla I posted a week or so ago:
>  =========================================
>  As I recall, KMail=>Tools=>Find Messages
>  used to search through the currently opened folder (eg Inbox)
>  
>  Now it seems to search through all folders,
>  which in my case means tens of thousands of emails.
>  
>  Also, it says at the bottom "0 matches in Last Search"
>  even though it has found dozens of matches.
>  
>  Also, most of the searches (eg From) do not seem to work properly.
>  
>  Finally, there are many blank lines is the list of finds.
>  
>  This facility seems to be in a complete mess,
>  and has been for many months.
>  =========================================
>  
>  I was advised in response to this bugzilla to go over to 4.8.x ,
>  which I have now done.
>  Sadly it appears to have had zero effect on this aspect of KMail2. 
Thats strange, mine works ok, I wonder do you use virtuoso to index your 
mails?, I dont know if kmail uses that to search.

to search through the current folder you should have the quick search bar 
activated in settings, any word in that will show threads/posts that contain 
that word anywere in them.

and regards the From search not working, aren't most emails from a mailing 
list, not specific people, if you search "anywere in message" and put a 
persons name, it should find what your looking for.

Martin

[Martin Airs]

On Friday 24 Feb 2012 16:08:56 Martin Airs wrote:
>  Thats strange, mine works ok, I wonder do you use virtuoso to index
> your
>  mails?, I dont know if kmail uses that to search.
>  
>  to search through the current folder you should have the quick search bar
>  activated in settings, any word in that will show threads/posts that contain
>  that word anywere in them.
>  
>  and regards the From search not working, aren't most emails from a mailing
>  list, not specific people, if you search "anywere in message" and put a
>  persons name, it should find what your looking for.
>  
>  Martin
>  _______________________________________________ 
ok I'm sorry, I stand corrected, the From search doesn't work, sorry

[Timothy Murphy]

Martin Airs wrote:

> > > Or can try out
> http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rdieter/kde48/. 
> > > These packages will be pushed to updates later on (after getting
> > > upgraded to kde 4.8.1)
> > 
> > I've followed this advice, adding Rex Dieter's repo and updating.
> > I haven't tested KMail fully, but I have determined that
> > the Tools=>Find Messages facility is no better than it was before. 
>  Thats strange, mine works ok, I wonder do you use virtuoso to index
> your
>  mails?, I dont know if kmail uses that to search. 
Thanks for your response.

I see from "ps aux | grep virtuoso" that I am indeed running virtuoso-t
though I had no idea that this application had anything to do with KMail.

>  to search through the current folder you should have the quick search
> bar
>  activated in settings, any word in that will show threads/posts that
>  contain that word anywere in them. 
Again, KMail=>Settings=>Show Quick Search Bar appears to be activated.
I see that if I press Ctrl-H a bar occurs above the list of messages
in the folder in use.
This seems to provide a rather crude search facility -
at first sight it seems to look for a specified word in any header.
But at least it looks in the current folder.

However, this is completely different to the Tools=>Find Messages facility
that I was referring to.

>  and regards the From search not working, aren't most emails from
> a mailing
>  list, not specific people, if you search "anywere in message" and put a
>  persons name, it should find what your looking for. 
No. In my case, most of the emails I keep are from specific people.
In any case, Find Messages claims to be looking at the From header.
I don't see how you can say it is working if it doesn't do
what it says it is doing.

Also - the worst failure as far as I am concerned
is that it searches through all emails,
not just those in the current folder being read through (eg Inbox).
Also, it says at the bottom that it is Searching in Last Search
which seems crazy - why would it search there?

It atill seems to be impossible to create a top-level folder,
as Add Folder is greyed out if one points to an account.

To be clear, I am running KMail on a laptop
with mail on an IMAP/Dovecot server.

-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: [phone]
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin