vanilla-kernel (was: Re: Plan for tomorrows (20080522) FESCO meeting)

[Thorsten Leemhuis]

On 21.05.2008 21:33, Josh Boyer wrote:
>  On Wed, 21 May 2008 16:20:39 -0300
>  Alexandre Oliva <aoliva(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
> > On May 21, 2008, Brian Pepple <bpepple(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>
> > Inclusion in Fedora (future and recent past releases) of the
> > kernel-libre package, a 100% Free Software variant of the kernel
> > Linux, that I've been maintaining tracking Fedora kernel builds at
> > http://www.fsfla.org/~lxoliva/fsfla/linux-libre/
>  We've had this discussion.  We aren't going to allow a forked kernel
>  package.   Please work with the kernel team to integrate this into the
>  main kernel package. 
Slightly related to this and maybe relevant for the -libre discussion:

Dave, what's the status of the "precompiled vanilla kernel rpms" for 
Fedora? There was the idea to put them in the unusual Fedora repos 
(which I'd prefer) or in a dedicated repo on your people pages. Was it 
forgotten? To many technical hurdles? -ENOTIME? Or do we stick to the 
"build one yourself using rpmbuild and the magic flag if you need one" 
solution?

Just wondering.

CU
knurd

[Nicolas Mailhot]

Le Jeu 22 mai 2008 10:24, Thorsten Leemhuis a écrit :

>  Dave, what's the status of the "precompiled vanilla kernel
> rpms" for
>  Fedora? 
It would be mightily useful to have regular pre-built vanilla and
linux-next fedora rpms available in a well-known repo. Often one
reports kernel bugs, and then upstream asks vanilla/linux-next
re-tests when you do not have a few free hours to invest in a custom
kernel rebuild (yes it can be a few hours when you have to figure what
changed in kernel build procedures upstream and what changed in the
fedora kernel spec during the same period)

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot

vanilla-kernel

[Thorsten Leemhuis]

On 22.05.2008 10:37, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>  Le Jeu 22 mai 2008 10:24, Thorsten Leemhuis a écrit :
>  
> > Dave, what's the status of the "precompiled vanilla kernel rpms" for
> > Fedora?
>  It would be mightily useful to have regular pre-built vanilla and
>  linux-next fedora rpms available in a well-known repo. Often one
>  reports kernel bugs, and then upstream asks vanilla/linux-next
>  re-tests when you do not have a few free hours to invest in a custom
>  kernel rebuild (yes it can be a few hours when you have to figure what
>  changed in kernel build procedures upstream and what changed in the
>  fedora kernel spec during the same period) 
+1 -- the reasons why it's good to have one where in fact discussed 
months ago and there was an agreement to ship them somewhere (¹) -- 
that's why I didn't mention the reasons again in my mail ;-)

But you bring up another good point: having linux-next available as well 
  a pre-compiled rpm might be a nice to have as well -- Andrew iirc some 
weeks ago expressed that he would like to see something like that.

Sure, -next is not of use for many people, but for some people (like me) 
it might be a "okay, if I get them pre-compiled I'll test them as it's 
way easier to do so". Of course if errors show up everything gets more 
complicated when it comes to debugging -- but that's imho not a reasons 
not to ship a -next RPM.

CU
knurd


(¹) -- which never happened afaik, hence my mail