On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 04:59:08PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 07/02/2013 02:35 PM, Justin M. Forbes wrote:
>On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 10:07 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>>I'm not sure if you guys are aware of this but a lot of reporters test
>>>and run development and more recent kernels then those that are
>>>available via the usual GA update mechanism and recent changes  which
>>>introduce hard dependency on dracut and systemd versions on kernel
>>>installs are preventing the ability for reporters to either a) enable
>>>fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug.repo or b) manually install specific
>>>kernel release from koji and test more recent kernels on already
>>>existing GA releases.
>We are very supportive of this, and frequently point people towards
>rawhide-nodebug. If people don't want to run full rawhide, we would love
>for them to at least run kernel snapshots.
>>>If we now have hard dependency's on specific dracut/systemd versions we
>>>need to start looking into sync-ing kernel/dracut/systemd releases
>>>better in GA ( arguably the entire base/core stack but that's a topic
>>>for a later time) or back port the necessary bits that the kernel
>>>install requires into the kernel/systemd/dracut releases in GA.
>This is a rare instance, and it hit several people. If I had the option
>of putting the required changes into F17/F18 I would have, but Harald
>did put them in 19 at least. This is a situation we really prefer to
>avoid, but sometimes there is no other way.
Well this could have in it's most simple form be avoided with F18
related #ifdef in the kernel.spec.
We took the patch Harald provided.
I pinged Harald in irc about this and he went through dracut changes
and backported/rebased to 029 
So that takes care of the dracut dependency which leaves out systemd
and I've pinged Michal but he has been to busy to look into it yet
which leaves out grubby and looking at  grubby seems to include
only fixes and those changes so I dont see why Peter should not be
able to backport/rebase to 8.26 for F18.
You might want to file an RFE bug. I don't believe Peter reads this