5:07 a.m.
I'm not sure if you guys are aware of this but a lot of reporters test
and run development and more recent kernels then those that are
available via the usual GA update mechanism and recent changes [1] which
introduce hard dependency on dracut and systemd versions on kernel
installs are preventing the ability for reporters to either a) enable
fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug.repo or b) manually install specific
kernel release from koji and test more recent kernels on already
existing GA releases.
If we now have hard dependency's on specific dracut/systemd versions we
need to start looking into sync-ing kernel/dracut/systemd releases
better in GA ( arguably the entire base/core stack but that's a topic
for a later time) or back port the necessary bits that the kernel
install requires into the kernel/systemd/dracut releases in GA.
JBG
[1].
--> Processing Dependency: dracut >= 027 for package:
kernel-3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: kernel-3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64 (/kernel-3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64)
Requires: systemd >= 203-2
Installed: systemd-201-2.fc18.7.x86_64 (@updates-testing)
systemd = 201-2.fc18.7
Available: systemd-195-15.fc18.x86_64 (fedora)
systemd = 195-15.fc18
Error: Package: kernel-3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64 (/kernel-3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64)
Requires: dracut >= 027
Installed: dracut-024-25.git20130205.fc18.x86_64 (@updates)
dracut = 024-25.git20130205.fc18
Available: dracut-024-18.git20130102.fc18.x86_64 (fedora)
dracut = 024-18.git20130102.fc18
You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
9:35 a.m.
On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 10:07 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
I'm not sure if you guys are aware of this but a lot of reporters
test
and run development and more recent kernels then those that are
available via the usual GA update mechanism and recent changes [1] which
introduce hard dependency on dracut and systemd versions on kernel
installs are preventing the ability for reporters to either a) enable
fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug.repo or b) manually install specific
kernel release from koji and test more recent kernels on already
existing GA releases.
We are very supportive of this, and frequently point people towards
rawhide-nodebug. If people don't want to run full rawhide, we would love
for them to at least run kernel snapshots.
If we now have hard dependency's on specific dracut/systemd
versions we
need to start looking into sync-ing kernel/dracut/systemd releases
better in GA ( arguably the entire base/core stack but that's a topic
for a later time) or back port the necessary bits that the kernel
install requires into the kernel/systemd/dracut releases in GA.
This is a rare instance, and it hit several people. If I had the option
of putting the required changes into F17/F18 I would have, but Harald
did put them in 19 at least. This is a situation we really prefer to
avoid, but sometimes there is no other way.
Justin
11:59 a.m.
On 07/02/2013 02:35 PM, Justin M. Forbes wrote:
On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 10:07 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
> >I'm not sure if you guys are aware of this but a lot of reporters test
> >and run development and more recent kernels then those that are
> >available via the usual GA update mechanism and recent changes [1] which
> >introduce hard dependency on dracut and systemd versions on kernel
> >installs are preventing the ability for reporters to either a) enable
> >fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug.repo or b) manually install specific
> >kernel release from koji and test more recent kernels on already
> >existing GA releases.
We are very supportive of this, and frequently point people towards
rawhide-nodebug. If people don't want to run full rawhide, we would love
for them to at least run kernel snapshots.
> >If we now have hard dependency's on specific dracut/systemd versions we
> >need to start looking into sync-ing kernel/dracut/systemd releases
> >better in GA ( arguably the entire base/core stack but that's a topic
> >for a later time) or back port the necessary bits that the kernel
> >install requires into the kernel/systemd/dracut releases in GA.
> >
This is a rare instance, and it hit several people. If I had the option
of putting the required changes into F17/F18 I would have, but Harald
did put them in 19 at least. This is a situation we really prefer to
avoid, but sometimes there is no other way.
Well this could have in it's most simple form be avoided with F18
related #ifdef in the kernel.spec.
I pinged Harald in irc about this and he went through dracut changes and
backported/rebased to 029 [1]
So that takes care of the dracut dependency which leaves out systemd and
I've pinged Michal but he has been to busy to look into it yet
which leaves out grubby and looking at [2] grubby seems to include only
fixes and those changes so I dont see why Peter should not be able to
backport/rebase to 8.26 for F18.
JBG
1. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=430845
2. https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/grubby.git/log/
12:44 p.m.
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 04:59:08PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 07/02/2013 02:35 PM, Justin M. Forbes wrote:
>On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 10:07 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>>I'm not sure if you guys are aware of this but a lot of reporters test
>>>and run development and more recent kernels then those that are
>>>available via the usual GA update mechanism and recent changes [1] which
>>>introduce hard dependency on dracut and systemd versions on kernel
>>>installs are preventing the ability for reporters to either a) enable
>>>fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug.repo or b) manually install specific
>>>kernel release from koji and test more recent kernels on already
>>>existing GA releases.
>We are very supportive of this, and frequently point people towards
>rawhide-nodebug. If people don't want to run full rawhide, we would love
>for them to at least run kernel snapshots.
>
>>>If we now have hard dependency's on specific dracut/systemd versions we
>>>need to start looking into sync-ing kernel/dracut/systemd releases
>>>better in GA ( arguably the entire base/core stack but that's a topic
>>>for a later time) or back port the necessary bits that the kernel
>>>install requires into the kernel/systemd/dracut releases in GA.
>>>
>This is a rare instance, and it hit several people. If I had the option
>of putting the required changes into F17/F18 I would have, but Harald
>did put them in 19 at least. This is a situation we really prefer to
>avoid, but sometimes there is no other way.
Well this could have in it's most simple form be avoided with F18
related #ifdef in the kernel.spec.
We took the patch Harald provided.
I pinged Harald in irc about this and he went through dracut changes
and backported/rebased to 029 [1]
So that takes care of the dracut dependency which leaves out systemd
and I've pinged Michal but he has been to busy to look into it yet
which leaves out grubby and looking at [2] grubby seems to include
only fixes and those changes so I dont see why Peter should not be
able to backport/rebase to 8.26 for F18.
You might want to file an RFE bug. I don't believe Peter reads this
list.
josh
12:57 p.m.
On 07/02/2013 05:44 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
You might want to file an RFE bug. I don't believe Peter reads
this
list.
No point Peter Jones does not respond to bug reports [1]
We need to find maintainers that can actively maintain and respond in
timely fashion for components that are part of the base/core os.
An QA topic I will be discussing with Adam and Tim and rest of the QA
community @flock.
JBG
1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=949328
2. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=869540
7:53 a.m.
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 10:07:06 +0000
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg(a)gmail.com> wrote:
F18 box.
if you "yum --enablerepo=rawhide update kernel
it installs 2 pkg, updates 8. liveable fo me.
Just love testing things.
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8:03 a.m.
Am 03.07.2013 14:53, schrieb Frank Murphy:
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 10:07:06 +0000
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg(a)gmail.com> wrote:
F18 box.
if you "yum --enablerepo=rawhide update kernel
it installs 2 pkg, updates 8. liveable fo me.
Just love testing things
yes, if you allow other packages too taken from Rawhide
the Kernel 3.10 build for F20 needs systemd >= 203
and so at least F19
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=430716
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