10:01 p.m.
http://jwboyer.fedorapeople.org/pub/
Let the kernel installs begin.
Hopefully I didn't fsck something up horridly. If I did, then I'll fix
it for -rc2.
josh
1:02 p.m.
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 23:01 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
http://jwboyer.fedorapeople.org/pub/
Let the kernel installs begin.
Hopefully I didn't fsck something up horridly. If I did, then I'll fix
it for -rc2.
Updated to -rc2 builds now. And the kernel-firmware Requires issue
should be fixed up thanks to Jarod.
josh
6:39 p.m.
2008/8/7 Josh Boyer <jwboyer(a)gmail.com>:
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 23:01 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> http://jwboyer.fedorapeople.org/pub/
>
> Let the kernel installs begin.
>
> Hopefully I didn't fsck something up horridly. If I did, then I'll fix
> it for -rc2.
Updated to -rc2 builds now. And the kernel-firmware Requires issue
should be fixed up thanks to Jarod.
It looks all good from here. I'll be posting a diff of the vanilla and
ummm ... blueberry ... dmesg in a moment. Any caveats, gotchas, test
suites?
--
Christopher Brown
http://www.chruz.com
7:43 p.m.
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 00:39 +0100, Christopher Brown wrote:
2008/8/7 Josh Boyer <jwboyer(a)gmail.com>:
> On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 23:01 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> http://jwboyer.fedorapeople.org/pub/
>>
>> Let the kernel installs begin.
>>
>> Hopefully I didn't fsck something up horridly. If I did, then I'll fix
>> it for -rc2.
>
> Updated to -rc2 builds now. And the kernel-firmware Requires issue
> should be fixed up thanks to Jarod.
It looks all good from here. I'll be posting a diff of the vanilla and
ummm ... blueberry ... dmesg in a moment. Any caveats, gotchas, test
suites?
As for gotchas, well, it's a -rc2 kernel so be warned. But the same is
true of rawhide in general.
My current plan is to only do vanilla builds for -rc and final releases,
unless a particular -rc is really badly broken and a git snapshot fixes
quite a bit. A few caveats below.
The intention isn't to provide an "alternative" kernel. It's more for
those that want to test something and see if it works on vanilla as
opposed to a patched Fedora kernel. That should be quite rare, as the
Fedora kernels are fairly top notch and don't differ much from vanilla
anyway.
I'm sure some will use it as a "primary" kernel, but they should realize
there is no support for these and the likely response will be "try
rawhide" and/or "please report it to the Linux kernel mailing list".
Also, due to quota limitations I can really only host one kernel version
at a time. That means as soon as -rc3 comes out, the current builds are
replaced.
As for test suites, I'm not aware of any except those that are already
available for any kernel such as LTP or the various benchmarks.
josh
5:20 p.m.
2008/8/8 Josh Boyer <jwboyer(a)gmail.com>:
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 00:39 +0100, Christopher Brown wrote:
> 2008/8/7 Josh Boyer <jwboyer(a)gmail.com>:
> > On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 23:01 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> >> http://jwboyer.fedorapeople.org/pub/
> >>
> >> Let the kernel installs begin.
> >>
> >> Hopefully I didn't fsck something up horridly. If I did, then I'll
fix
> >> it for -rc2.
> >
> > Updated to -rc2 builds now. And the kernel-firmware Requires issue
> > should be fixed up thanks to Jarod.
>
> It looks all good from here. I'll be posting a diff of the vanilla and
> ummm ... blueberry ... dmesg in a moment. Any caveats, gotchas, test
> suites?
As for gotchas, well, it's a -rc2 kernel so be warned. But the same is
true of rawhide in general.
My current plan is to only do vanilla builds for -rc and final releases,
unless a particular -rc is really badly broken and a git snapshot fixes
quite a bit. A few caveats below.
The intention isn't to provide an "alternative" kernel. It's more for
those that want to test something and see if it works on vanilla as
opposed to a patched Fedora kernel. That should be quite rare, as the
Fedora kernels are fairly top notch and don't differ much from vanilla
anyway.
Then I suppose this begs the question - why aren't we shipping a
vanilla kernel to begin with?
I'm sure there are excellent answers and I'm aware of some of them
already. I do think it would be good to pimp this a bit more and that
it could be offered as a viable alternative.
Or do I have my head in clouds I don't understand? Probably.
I'm sure some will use it as a "primary" kernel, but
they should realize
there is no support for these and the likely response will be "try
rawhide" and/or "please report it to the Linux kernel mailing list".
On the contrary would this not bring greater support. At the moment
mainline ask people with bugs to test with mainline which your average
joe has difficulty with.
Also, due to quota limitations I can really only host one kernel
version
at a time. That means as soon as -rc3 comes out, the current builds are
replaced.
Understood, but if there was some way to get this added into the
official repositories do the Fedora kernel bods see an opportunity?
Cheers
--
Christopher Brown
http://www.chruz.com
6:46 p.m.
On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 23:20 +0100, Christopher Brown wrote:
> The intention isn't to provide an "alternative"
kernel. It's more for
> those that want to test something and see if it works on vanilla as
> opposed to a patched Fedora kernel. That should be quite rare, as the
> Fedora kernels are fairly top notch and don't differ much from vanilla
> anyway.
Then I suppose this begs the question - why aren't we shipping a
vanilla kernel to begin with?
Because there are patches that _are_ carried in Fedora that aren't
upstream. Execshield, utrace, etc. And of course, the Fedora kernel
developers put bug fix patches into Fedora while things are being worked
upstream.
Also, while rawhide tends to track vanilla very closely, the release
version kernels do often care additional backports and fixes for things
like wireless, etc. Just shipping the stock vanilla kernel there, while
not being horrible, wouldn't have the same functionality that Fedora
does.
I'm sure there are excellent answers and I'm aware of some of
them
already. I do think it would be good to pimp this a bit more and that
it could be offered as a viable alternative.
Or do I have my head in clouds I don't understand? Probably.
In the clouds, no. It's just not feasible at the moment.
> Also, due to quota limitations I can really only host one kernel
version
> at a time. That means as soon as -rc3 comes out, the current builds are
> replaced.
Understood, but if there was some way to get this added into the
official repositories do the Fedora kernel bods see an opportunity?
I personally don't. It's an additional kernel, which we've avoided to
date in the official repositories for good reasons. It's also a lower
valued download target, and having it sitting there on the official
mirrors takes up roughly 2.4 GiB.
josh
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