On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Dennis Gilmore <dennis@ausil.us> wrote:

Hi all,

Today koji has the ability to make livecds using livecd-creator, appliance
images using appliance-creator and all sorts of other images using
imagefactory.

For Fedora 23 we are using livecd-creator to make all the livecds, appliance-
creator to make all the arm disk images and imagefactory to make the cloud
images and docker base image. We have a releng person tasked with adding
support to koji for livemedia-creator[1] it is part of lorax and is actively
developed and maintained by the anaconda team. It has the ability to make
disk images and livecds. we are planning to switch Fedora to this for Fedora
24.

Why not for Fedora 23? If the tool is actively developed and maintained vs the older ones, why not switch to it now? Or if we can't switch now, why not make it possible to build the Fedora 23 release artifacts with the newer tools anyway?

At this point in time I want to deprecate the spin-livecd command in koji in
addition to teh already deprecated spin-appliance command. With the plan being
to remove support from koji for the two command once Fedora 23 is EOL, which
will be approximately around the end of November in 2016.

I would suggest that Koji deprecate the older tools far earlier than F23 EOL. If the newer tools can make useful composes for Fedora 23, I don't see why you can't aggressively migrate before F25.

the livemedia-creator equivalent commands should be livecd-build and
appliance-build to match image-build which is used to create images using
imagefactory. appliance-build may be better off being named disk-build

I was wanting to make sure that everyone is okay with the plan and has not
objections.

I suppose my only objection is that I don't think it's aggressive enough. Unless there's some kind of problem that prevents the usage of the new tools with Fedora 23 release engineering, I don't see why we can't switch to it.

Regards

Dennis

[1] http://lorax.readthedocs.org/en/latest/livemedia-creator.html
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