problem with ALPS touchpad (Toshiba Satellite) and Gsynaptics

[udutronik Tronik]

Hi all,

I'm a newbie in the linux world, been trying various distros for 6 months
and recently switched to Fedora.
I'm really enjoying this distribution and the community that surrounds it
and so far, i've been able to make eveything work perfectly on my toshiba
satellite laptop.

Everything but... my touchpad! I want to be able to use it but with tapping
disabled.

It is viewed as ALPS Glidepoint device in Fedora's devices

I've not been able to make it happen, I tried:
- installing gsynaptics, but it wont start, giving me the message :
"GSynaptics couldn't initialize. You have to set 'SHMConfig'
'true' in
xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics"
- I've looked into /etc/X11/xorg.conf but there is no reference to synaptics
touchpad
- i've pasted this sample config lines into xorg.conf with SHMConfig = true
with no luck...
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Synaptics"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
Option "SHMConfig" "true"
EndSection

in other distros, all i had to do was edit this xorg.conf... but what about
Fedora?

Thanks for your help...

[Sean Madden]

Please send your xorg.conf file.

udutronik Tronik wrote:
>  Hi all,
>
>  I'm a newbie in the linux world, been trying various distros for 6 
>  months and recently switched to Fedora.
>  I'm really enjoying this distribution and the community that surrounds 
>  it and so far, i've been able to make eveything work perfectly on my 
>  toshiba satellite laptop.
>
>  Everything but... my touchpad! I want to be able to use it but with 
>  tapping disabled.
>
>  It is viewed as ALPS Glidepoint device in Fedora's devices
>
>  I've not been able to make it happen, I tried:
>  - installing gsynaptics, but it wont start, giving me the message : 
>  "GSynaptics couldn't initialize. You have to set 'SHMConfig'
> 'true' in 
>  xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics"
>  - I've looked into /etc/X11/xorg.conf but there is no reference to 
>  synaptics touchpad
>  - i've pasted this sample config lines into xorg.conf with SHMConfig = 
>  true with no luck...
>  Section "InputDevice"
>  Identifier "Synaptics"
>  Driver "synaptics"
>  Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
>  Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
>  Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
>  Option "SHMConfig" "true"
>  EndSection
>
>  in other distros, all i had to do was edit this xorg.conf... but what 
>  about Fedora?
>
>  Thanks for your help...
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[udutronik Tronik]

here is my xorg.conf file : please note that the "synaptics" section was
added by myself (so not created by system)

# Xorg configuration created by system-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "single head configuration"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection


Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Synaptics"
    Driver         "synaptics"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto-dev"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
    Option         "SHMConfig""true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Keyboard0"
    Driver      "kbd"
    Option        "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option        "XkbLayout" "ca(fr)"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier   "Monitor0"
    ModelName    "Monitor 1280x1024"
    HorizSync    31.5 - 81.0
    VertRefresh  50.0 - 75.0
    Option        "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Videocard0"
    Driver      "intel"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen0"
    Device     "Videocard0"
    Monitor    "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth     24
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     24
        Modes    "1152x768" "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
    EndSubSection
EndSection


2008/2/25, Sean Madden <spmadden(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>   Please send your xorg.conf file.
>
>  udutronik Tronik wrote:
>
>  Hi all,
>
>  I'm a newbie in the linux world, been trying various distros for 6 months
>  and recently switched to Fedora.
>  I'm really enjoying this distribution and the community that surrounds it
>  and so far, i've been able to make eveything work perfectly on my toshiba
>  satellite laptop.
>
>  Everything but... my touchpad! I want to be able to use it but with
>  tapping disabled.
>
>  It is viewed as ALPS Glidepoint device in Fedora's devices
>
>  I've not been able to make it happen, I tried:
>  - installing gsynaptics, but it wont start, giving me the message :
>  "GSynaptics couldn't initialize. You have to set 'SHMConfig'
> 'true' in
>  xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics"
>  - I've looked into /etc/X11/xorg.conf but there is no reference to
>  synaptics touchpad
>  - i've pasted this sample config lines into xorg.conf with SHMConfig =
>  true with no luck...
>  Section "InputDevice"
>  Identifier "Synaptics"
>  Driver "synaptics"
>  Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
>  Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
>  Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
>  Option "SHMConfig" "true"
>  EndSection
>
>  in other distros, all i had to do was edit this xorg.conf... but what
>  about Fedora?
>
>  Thanks for your help...
>
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[Pete Zaitcev]

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:39:29 -0500, "udutronik Tronik"
<udutronik(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  It is viewed as ALPS Glidepoint device in Fedora's devices
>  Driver "synaptics" 
Why are you trying to drive an ALPS device with Synaptics driver?
This just makes no sense whatsoever!

Anyway, use tpconfig and stock mouse driver in X11. Kernel, I think,
will load in-kernel alps for you, but it's not a problem. tpconfig
should be able to set the pad anyway.

-- Pete

[udutronik Tronik]

you are right Pete about nonsense of setting ALPS with Synaptics driver...
But the thing is that other distros i've used (ubuntu, Mandriva, OpenSuse)
on this computer were seeing it like that... and I was able to configure
this touchpad
via synaptics drivers or utilities...

Anyway, tpconfig looks like an avenue i havent tried. But i'm not familiar
with it..
how do i use it... and install it? It doesnt look like its on my computer
and i cant
find it with Yumex...


2008/2/25, Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev(a)redhat.com&gt;:
>  On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:39:29 -0500, "udutronik Tronik" <
>  udutronik(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
>  > It is viewed as ALPS Glidepoint device in Fedora's devicthes
>
>
>  > Driver "synaptics"
>
>  Why are you trying to drive an ALPS device with Synaptics driver?
>  This just makes no sense whatsoever!
>
>  Anyway, use tpconfig and stock mouse driver in X11. Kernel, I think,
>  will load in-kernel alps for you, but it's not a problem. tpconfig
>  should be able to set the pad anyway.
>
>
>  -- Pete
>

[Bill LaGrue]

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:57:06 -0500
"udutronik Tronik" <udutronik(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  you are right Pete about nonsense of setting ALPS with Synaptics
>  driver... But the thing is that other distros i've used (ubuntu,
>  Mandriva, OpenSuse) on this computer were seeing it like that... and
>  I was able to configure this touchpad
>  via synaptics drivers or utilities...
>  
>  Anyway, tpconfig looks like an avenue i havent tried. But i'm not
>  familiar with it..
>  how do i use it... and install it? It doesnt look like its on my
>  computer and i cant
>  find it with Yumex...
>  
>  
>  2008/2/25, Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev(a)redhat.com&gt;:
>  >
>  > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:39:29 -0500, "udutronik Tronik" <
>  > udutronik(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  >
>  > > It is viewed as ALPS Glidepoint device in Fedora's devicthes
>  >
>  >
>  > > Driver "synaptics"
>  >
>  > Why are you trying to drive an ALPS device with Synaptics driver?
>  > This just makes no sense whatsoever!
>  >
>  > Anyway, use tpconfig and stock mouse driver in X11. Kernel, I think,
>  > will load in-kernel alps for you, but it's not a problem. tpconfig
>  > should be able to set the pad anyway.
>  >
>  >
>  > -- Pete
>  > 
I have a Dell Inspiron 6000, and it also has an ALPS touchpad. I have
it up and running beautifully..here is the relevant bits from my
xorg.conf -

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "Default Layout"
        Screen      0  "aticonfig-Screen[0]" 0 0
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
        InputDevice    "Synaptics" "CorePointer"
EndSection

-----snip-----

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Synaptics"
        Driver      "synaptics"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
        Option      "Protocol" "auto-dev"
        Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
        Option      "LeftEdge" "120"
        Option      "RightEdge" "830"
        Option      "TopEdge" "120"
        Option      "BottomEdge" "650"
        Option      "FingerLow" "14"
        Option      "FingerHigh" "15"
        Option      "MaxTapMove" "110"
        Option      "VertScrollDelta" "20"
        Option      "HorizScrollDelta" "20"
        Option      "MinSpeed" "0.3"
        Option      "MaxSpeed" "0.75"
        Option      "SHMConfig" "True"
EndSection

---snip---

You seem to be missing the "CorePointer" bit in "ServerLayout"

You don't need to use tpconfig or anything else - just use yum and
have synaptics, libsynaptics and gsynaptics installed.

The only thing I did notice about your xorg.conf is that you seem to be
missing a space between "SHMConfig" "True". I don't know if that
makes
a difference or not ->

    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
    Option         "SHMConfig""true"
EndSection


Hope this helps you out!
Bill

[udutronik Tronik]

Bill, thanks! I edited xorg.conf with your data and that worked!

This thread is SOLVED!



2008/2/26, Bill LaGrue <bill(a)billlagr.id.au&gt;:
>  On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:57:06 -0500
>
>  "udutronik Tronik" <udutronik(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
>  > you are right Pete about nonsense of setting ALPS with Synaptics
>  > driver... But the thing is that other distros i've used (ubuntu,
>  > Mandriva, OpenSuse) on this computer were seeing it like that... and
>  > I was able to configure this touchpad
>  > via synaptics drivers or utilities...
>  >
>  > Anyway, tpconfig looks like an avenue i havent tried. But i'm not
>  > familiar with it..
>  > how do i use it... and install it? It doesnt look like its on my
>  > computer and i cant
>  > find it with Yumex...
>  >
>  >
>  > 2008/2/25, Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev(a)redhat.com&gt;:
>  > >
>  > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:39:29 -0500, "udutronik Tronik" <
>  > > udutronik(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  > >
>  > > > It is viewed as ALPS Glidepoint device in Fedora's devicthes
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > > Driver "synaptics"
>  > >
>  > > Why are you trying to drive an ALPS device with Synaptics driver?
>  > > This just makes no sense whatsoever!
>  > >
>  > > Anyway, use tpconfig and stock mouse driver in X11. Kernel, I think,
>  > > will load in-kernel alps for you, but it's not a problem. tpconfig
>  > > should be able to set the pad anyway.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > -- Pete
>  > >
>
>  I have a Dell Inspiron 6000, and it also has an ALPS touchpad. I have
>  it up and running beautifully..here is the relevant bits from my
>  xorg.conf -
>
>  Section "ServerLayout"
>          Identifier     "Default Layout"
>          Screen      0  "aticonfig-Screen[0]" 0 0
>          InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>          InputDevice    "Synaptics" "CorePointer"
>  EndSection
>
>  -----snip-----
>
>
>  Section "InputDevice"
>          Identifier  "Synaptics"
>          Driver      "synaptics"
>          Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
>          Option      "Protocol" "auto-dev"
>          Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
>
>          Option      "LeftEdge" "120"
>          Option      "RightEdge" "830"
>          Option      "TopEdge" "120"
>          Option      "BottomEdge" "650"
>          Option      "FingerLow" "14"
>          Option      "FingerHigh" "15"
>          Option      "MaxTapMove" "110"
>          Option      "VertScrollDelta" "20"
>          Option      "HorizScrollDelta" "20"
>          Option      "MinSpeed" "0.3"
>          Option      "MaxSpeed" "0.75"
>          Option      "SHMConfig" "True"
>  EndSection
>
>  ---snip---
>
>  You seem to be missing the "CorePointer" bit in "ServerLayout"
>
>  You don't need to use tpconfig or anything else - just use yum and
>  have synaptics, libsynaptics and gsynaptics installed.
>
>  The only thing I did notice about your xorg.conf is that you seem to be
>  missing a space between "SHMConfig" "True". I don't know if that
> makes
>  a difference or not ->
>
>
>      Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
>      Option         "SHMConfig""true"
>  EndSection
>
>
>
>  Hope this helps you out!
>
>  Bill
>
>
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