On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 7:38 AM Josh Boyer <jwboyer(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 7:51 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 7:05 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
> > On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 11:10:41PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > > On the topic of FPCA improvements, it would probably make sense (if
> > > > the FPCA is retained) to replace the MIT license as the default code
> > > > license with MIT No Attribution, aka MIT-0, recently approved by the
> > > > OSI as an open source license:
> > > > https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT-0
> > > > (which would also enable a minor simplification of the FPCA text).
> > > >
> > >
> > > I would personally prefer we didn't. That has the knock-on effect of
> > > making it possible for RHEL folks to not include Fedora changelogs
> > > when they fork Fedora for RHEL, since the RPM changelogs are the only
> > > attribution we actually *have* in the distribution. And I've
> > > personally experienced very positive reinforcement for contributing to
> > > Fedora and CentOS Stream by pointing to public attribution via
> > I agree with Neal here as a deep gut reaction. Recognition is important,
> > even if it is buried pretty deeply from endusers.
> > That said, uh, we trim changelogs, so if we're arguing that that's the
> > attribution part, we have some digging through git history to do to repair
> > that.
> Red Hat is going to have to fix *a lot* of the process around
> Fedora->RHEL/CentOS if we're going to rely on Git history for
> attribution. Especially if rpmautospec gets broader adoption. I was
> personally pretty upset about how the c9s branches were forked from
> Fedora Linux 34, where all the Fedora history was *gone*. I know that
> it's still there in the internal RHEL Dist-Git, but the fact they
You don't know that, and it's actually not there.
This is what the import commits look like:
Author: XXXX XXXXXX <XXXXXX(a)redhat.com>
Date: Fri Oct 23 08:45:59 2020 -0700
RHEL 9.0.0 bootstrap
The content of this branch was automatically imported from Fedora ELN
with the following as its source:
Author: DistroBaker <xxxxxxxx(a)redhat.com>
Date: Tue Dec 15 10:59:21 2020 +0000
Merged update from upstream sources
This is an automated DistroBaker update from upstream sources.
If you do not know what this is about or would like to opt out,
contact the XXXX team.
Please don't fall into the trap of believing your assumptions are reality :)
That is insufficient. And when rpmautospec based packages start coming
to RHEL, it'll be *definitely* insufficient because none of that will
make it into the generated spec file and built packages.
真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!