The SPDX reference pattern uses “Copyright (c)”, and the second paragraph is in ALL CAPS. Furthermore, the Boehm-GC text says “program” instead of “shellscript”.
# Copyright 2018 B. Persson, Bjorn@Rombobeorn.se # # This material is provided as is, with absolutely no warranty expressed # or implied. Any use is at your own risk. # # Permission is hereby granted to use or copy this shellscript # for any purpose, provided the above notices are retained on all copies. # Permission to modify the code and to distribute modified code is granted, # provided the above notices are retained, and a notice that the code was # modified is included with the above copyright notice.
Hmm, I guess I should try to get permission to use Boehm-GC verbatim.
Thanks, Florian
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 9:04 AM Florian Weimer fweimer@redhat.com wrote:
The SPDX reference pattern uses “Copyright (c)”, and the second paragraph is in ALL CAPS. Furthermore, the Boehm-GC text says “program” instead of “shellscript”.
# Copyright 2018 B. Persson, Bjorn@Rombobeorn.se # # This material is provided as is, with absolutely no warranty expressed # or implied. Any use is at your own risk. # # Permission is hereby granted to use or copy this shellscript # for any purpose, provided the above notices are retained on all copies. # Permission to modify the code and to distribute modified code is granted, # provided the above notices are retained, and a notice that the code was # modified is included with the above copyright notice.
The SPDX XML file for Boehm-GC: https://github.com/spdx/license-list-XML/blob/main/src/Boehm-GC.xml does not account for "shellscript" as an alternative to "program".
In SPDX (https://spdx.github.io/spdx-spec/v2-draft/license-matching-guidelines-and-te...) Details of copyright notices are ignored for matching purposes and matching is case insensitive. Fedora is basically adopting the SPDX understanding of what "matching" means for purposes of using SPDX identifiers.
So probably what would need to be done here is getting SPDX to modify the XML for Boehm-GC rather than assign a new identifier for this variant.
Richard
Richard Fontana wrote:
The SPDX XML file for Boehm-GC: https://github.com/spdx/license-list-XML/blob/main/src/Boehm-GC.xml does not account for "shellscript" as an alternative to "program".
I just tried to be as specific and unambiguous as possible. It didn't seem like the wording was that rigid when there was a large collection of wording variants all called "MIT".
A shellscript is a program, so as the author I can change it to say "program" if that helps:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/redhat-rpm-config/pull-request/262
matching is case insensitive.
That's good because I strongly dislike entire paragraphs of shouting uppercase letters.
So probably what would need to be done here is getting SPDX to modify the XML for Boehm-GC rather than assign a new identifier for this variant.
In general I think it would help if SPDX were more flexible about the word choice in such cases, so a license could be applied to a program, a library, a document, a single file or a collection of software.
For this particular case it's not needed if my merge request is accepted.
Björn Persson
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 11:32:44AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
Richard Fontana wrote:
The SPDX XML file for Boehm-GC: https://github.com/spdx/license-list-XML/blob/main/src/Boehm-GC.xml does not account for "shellscript" as an alternative to "program".
I just tried to be as specific and unambiguous as possible. It didn't seem like the wording was that rigid when there was a large collection of wording variants all called "MIT".
A shellscript is a program, so as the author I can change it to say "program" if that helps:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/redhat-rpm-config/pull-request/262
matching is case insensitive.
That's good because I strongly dislike entire paragraphs of shouting uppercase letters.
So probably what would need to be done here is getting SPDX to modify the XML for Boehm-GC rather than assign a new identifier for this variant.
In general I think it would help if SPDX were more flexible about the word choice in such cases, so a license could be applied to a program, a library, a document, a single file or a collection of software.
The SPDX license XML format supports such language flexibility, as it lets phrases be marked as matching patterns. Someone can submit a PR to SPDX license-data-XML to propose adding the desired patterns where appropriate / needed.
With regards, Daniel
* Richard Fontana:
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 9:04 AM Florian Weimer fweimer@redhat.com wrote:
The SPDX reference pattern uses “Copyright (c)”, and the second paragraph is in ALL CAPS. Furthermore, the Boehm-GC text says “program” instead of “shellscript”.
# Copyright 2018 B. Persson, Bjorn@Rombobeorn.se # # This material is provided as is, with absolutely no warranty expressed # or implied. Any use is at your own risk. # # Permission is hereby granted to use or copy this shellscript # for any purpose, provided the above notices are retained on all copies. # Permission to modify the code and to distribute modified code is granted, # provided the above notices are retained, and a notice that the code was # modified is included with the above copyright notice.
The SPDX XML file for Boehm-GC: https://github.com/spdx/license-list-XML/blob/main/src/Boehm-GC.xml does not account for "shellscript" as an alternative to "program".
In SPDX (https://spdx.github.io/spdx-spec/v2-draft/license-matching-guidelines-and-te...) Details of copyright notices are ignored for matching purposes and matching is case insensitive. Fedora is basically adopting the SPDX understanding of what "matching" means for purposes of using SPDX identifiers.
So probably what would need to be done here is getting SPDX to modify the XML for Boehm-GC rather than assign a new identifier for this variant.
Björn has changed “shellscript” to “program”:
<https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/redhat-rpm-config/c/4580afce7cf577f324b7b...
Is this sufficient to match SPDX Boehm-GC, even without the ALL CAPS and (c) change?
Thanks, Florian
* Florian Weimer:
- Richard Fontana:
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 9:04 AM Florian Weimer fweimer@redhat.com wrote:
The SPDX reference pattern uses “Copyright (c)”, and the second paragraph is in ALL CAPS. Furthermore, the Boehm-GC text says “program” instead of “shellscript”.
# Copyright 2018 B. Persson, Bjorn@Rombobeorn.se # # This material is provided as is, with absolutely no warranty expressed # or implied. Any use is at your own risk. # # Permission is hereby granted to use or copy this shellscript # for any purpose, provided the above notices are retained on all copies. # Permission to modify the code and to distribute modified code is granted, # provided the above notices are retained, and a notice that the code was # modified is included with the above copyright notice.
The SPDX XML file for Boehm-GC: https://github.com/spdx/license-list-XML/blob/main/src/Boehm-GC.xml does not account for "shellscript" as an alternative to "program".
In SPDX (https://spdx.github.io/spdx-spec/v2-draft/license-matching-guidelines-and-te...) Details of copyright notices are ignored for matching purposes and matching is case insensitive. Fedora is basically adopting the SPDX understanding of what "matching" means for purposes of using SPDX identifiers.
So probably what would need to be done here is getting SPDX to modify the XML for Boehm-GC rather than assign a new identifier for this variant.
Björn has changed “shellscript” to “program”:
<https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/redhat-rpm-config/c/4580afce7cf577f324b7b...
Is this sufficient to match SPDX Boehm-GC, even without the ALL CAPS and (c) change?
Sorry, I missed that you alread answered those questions, thanks. So I think redhat-rpm-config is properly converted now.
Florian
On 8/22/23 4:01 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
- Florian Weimer:
- Richard Fontana:
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 9:04 AM Florian Weimer fweimer@redhat.com wrote:
The SPDX reference pattern uses “Copyright (c)”, and the second paragraph is in ALL CAPS. Furthermore, the Boehm-GC text says “program” instead of “shellscript”.
# Copyright 2018 B. Persson, Bjorn@Rombobeorn.se # # This material is provided as is, with absolutely no warranty expressed # or implied. Any use is at your own risk. # # Permission is hereby granted to use or copy this shellscript # for any purpose, provided the above notices are retained on all copies. # Permission to modify the code and to distribute modified code is granted, # provided the above notices are retained, and a notice that the code was # modified is included with the above copyright notice.
The SPDX XML file for Boehm-GC: https://github.com/spdx/license-list-XML/blob/main/src/Boehm-GC.xml does not account for "shellscript" as an alternative to "program".
In SPDX (https://spdx.github.io/spdx-spec/v2-draft/license-matching-guidelines-and-te...) Details of copyright notices are ignored for matching purposes and matching is case insensitive. Fedora is basically adopting the SPDX understanding of what "matching" means for purposes of using SPDX identifiers.
So probably what would need to be done here is getting SPDX to modify the XML for Boehm-GC rather than assign a new identifier for this variant.
Björn has changed “shellscript” to “program”:
<https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/redhat-rpm-config/c/4580afce7cf577f324b7b...
Is this sufficient to match SPDX Boehm-GC, even without the ALL CAPS and (c) change?
yes.
Richard had meant to add the "shellscript" variation to the SPDX file for the license, but having the copyright holder "fix" this at the license level so there isn't such variation at all is even better!
Thanks Bjorn!
Sorry, I missed that you alread answered those questions, thanks. So I think redhat-rpm-config is properly converted now.
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