Can I package linapple and ship it in Fedora?

[Link Dupont]

Hello,

I've created a package[1] for linapple[2], an Apple ][ family emulator. I'm trying
to understand whether it can be included in Fedora or not. I've read the legal
guidelines on emulators[3] and the packaging guidelines on what can be packaged[4]. I
believe linapple can run without requiring any sort of boot/system ROM, so I think this
falls into the category of inclusion in Fedora. I want to follow the spirit of
Fedora's open source as much as possible. Can anyone with a better understanding of
the emulator requirements tell me whether linapple can be included or not?

Thanks!
Link

1: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2025398
2: https://github.com/linappleii/linapple
3: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/legal/misc/#_emulators
4:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/what-can-be-pac...

[Neal Gompa]

On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 9:06 AM Link Dupont <link(a)sub-pop.net&gt; wrote:
>  Hello,
>
>  I've created a package[1] for linapple[2], an Apple ][ family emulator. I'm
> trying to understand whether it can be included in Fedora or not. I've read the legal
> guidelines on emulators[3] and the packaging guidelines on what can be packaged[4]. I
> believe linapple can run without requiring any sort of boot/system ROM, so I think this
> falls into the category of inclusion in Fedora. I want to follow the spirit of
> Fedora's open source as much as possible. Can anyone with a better understanding of
> the emulator requirements tell me whether linapple can be included or not?
>
>  Thanks!
>  Link
>
>  1: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2025398
>  2: https://github.com/linappleii/linapple
>  3: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/legal/misc/#_emulators
>  4:
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/what-can-be-pac...
From what I can see in the source code, I think linapple is fine to
include. There's no proprietary blobs or code in there that I can see.



-- 
真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!

[Dan Horák]

On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:13:34 -0500
Neal Gompa <ngompa13(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 9:06 AM Link Dupont <link(a)sub-pop.net&gt;
> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hello,
>  >
>  > I've created a package[1] for linapple[2], an Apple ][ family emulator. I'm
> trying to understand whether it can be included in Fedora or not. I've read the legal
> guidelines on emulators[3] and the packaging guidelines on what can be packaged[4]. I
> believe linapple can run without requiring any sort of boot/system ROM, so I think this
> falls into the category of inclusion in Fedora. I want to follow the spirit of
> Fedora's open source as much as possible. Can anyone with a better understanding of
> the emulator requirements tell me whether linapple can be included or not?
>  >
>  > Thanks!
>  > Link
>  >
>  > 1: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2025398
>  > 2: https://github.com/linappleii/linapple
>  > 3: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/legal/misc/#_emulators
>  > 4:
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/what-can-be-pac...
>  
>  From what I can see in the source code, I think linapple is fine to
>  include. There's no proprietary blobs or code in there that I can see. 
https://github.com/linappleii/linapple/blob/master/inc/resource.h
contains a dump of a ROM, I suppose it's the Apple one, not a
free reimplementation. Thus I believe linapple is non-free.


		Dan

[Neal Gompa]

On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 9:38 AM Dan Horák <dan(a)danny.cz&gt; wrote:
>  On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:13:34 -0500
>  Neal Gompa <ngompa13(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
>  > On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 9:06 AM Link Dupont <link(a)sub-pop.net&gt; wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Hello,
>  > >
>  > > I've created a package[1] for linapple[2], an Apple ][ family emulator.
> I'm trying to understand whether it can be included in Fedora or not. I've read
> the legal guidelines on emulators[3] and the packaging guidelines on what can be
> packaged[4]. I believe linapple can run without requiring any sort of boot/system ROM, so
> I think this falls into the category of inclusion in Fedora. I want to follow the spirit
> of Fedora's open source as much as possible. Can anyone with a better understanding of
> the emulator requirements tell me whether linapple can be included or not?
>  > >
>  > > Thanks!
>  > > Link
>  > >
>  > > 1: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2025398
>  > > 2: https://github.com/linappleii/linapple
>  > > 3: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/legal/misc/#_emulators
>  > > 4:
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/what-can-be-pac...
>  >
>  > From what I can see in the source code, I think linapple is fine to
>  > include. There's no proprietary blobs or code in there that I can see.
>
>  https://github.com/linappleii/linapple/blob/master/inc/resource.h
>  contains a dump of a ROM, I suppose it's the Apple one, not a
>  free reimplementation. Thus I believe linapple is non-free.
>  
Oof I missed that, thanks for catching it. Yes, I agree.



-- 
真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!

[Dan Horák]

On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 10:35:26 -0500
Neal Gompa <ngompa13(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 9:38 AM Dan Horák <dan(a)danny.cz&gt;
> wrote:
>  >
>  > On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:13:34 -0500
>  > Neal Gompa <ngompa13(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  >
>  > > On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 9:06 AM Link Dupont <link(a)sub-pop.net&gt; wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > Hello,
>  > > >
>  > > > I've created a package[1] for linapple[2], an Apple ][ family
> emulator. I'm trying to understand whether it can be included in Fedora or not.
> I've read the legal guidelines on emulators[3] and the packaging guidelines on what
> can be packaged[4]. I believe linapple can run without requiring any sort of boot/system
> ROM, so I think this falls into the category of inclusion in Fedora. I want to follow the
> spirit of Fedora's open source as much as possible. Can anyone with a better
> understanding of the emulator requirements tell me whether linapple can be included or
> not?
>  > > >
>  > > > Thanks!
>  > > > Link
>  > > >
>  > > > 1: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2025398
>  > > > 2: https://github.com/linappleii/linapple
>  > > > 3: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/legal/misc/#_emulators
>  > > > 4:
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/what-can-be-pac...
>  > >
>  > > From what I can see in the source code, I think linapple is fine to
>  > > include. There's no proprietary blobs or code in there that I can see.
>  >
>  > https://github.com/linappleii/linapple/blob/master/inc/resource.h
>  > contains a dump of a ROM, I suppose it's the Apple one, not a
>  > free reimplementation. Thus I believe linapple is non-free.
>  >
>  
>  Oof I missed that, thanks for catching it. Yes, I agree. 
np, there is always a ROM in these classic systems and only a few have
a free re-implementations (eg. Ataris), so I am very cautious about
emulators.


		Dan