On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 00:37 -0600, Tom Lisjac wrote:
> On 4/12/05, Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> > It might be interesting if the people who have done live cds could list
> > what changes they have done to make them work. Then we can take these
> > changes and try to get them all into the distro.
> > What other changes do we need in order to make a script that can
> > generate a live-cd from a random rawhide snapshot?
> One essential component for a live CD is automatic hardware
> configuration. Has anyone developed a comprehensive package to handle
> For EpikBuilder, I adapted Klaus Knopper's scripts, ddcxinfo and
> hwsetup utilities. I also used his version of kudzu hwdata because
> Knoppix supported both the XFree 3.3.6 and 4.x drivers at that time.
> This provided compatibility with older graphics cards that were
> dropped in RH9. The whole thing worked well but was difficult to
> maintain since any updates Klaus made to the Debian scripts had to be
> manually reviewed and applied to my RH version.
> Of possible interest is a project that René Rhéaume started in July of
> 2003 to maintain the Knoppix auto-detection system for Red Hat and
> His last update for RH was a year ago... but it might be worth looking
> at if nobody else has a packaged solution.
For the stateless linux livecd i just used kudzu (kudzu -q I think). I
see no reason why the live-cd hardware detection should be any different
from the automatic detection of another (non-cd) fedora core
Having a special hardware detection system for the live-cd just means
double the maintenance burden, because the non-live-cd fedora core
should also automatically detect as much hardware as possible.
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At this point, it might be helpful to try and define the goals for the
project a little more clearly... for example, what are we planning to
deliver? Is the goal to create a generic build system for generating
customized Fedora bootable CD's... or are we trying to assemble a "one
size fits all" release with a flexible set of startup options?
How about a project website, cvs and download mirrors? Is this a good
candidate for SourceForge or is Red Hat thinking about providing this
Last but not least, leadership. Is there a "benevolent dictator" at
this point? :)
I'm Greg DeK. You should all know me by this point, as I've likely
contacted each one of you about your interest in an official "Fedora Live
Why? Aren't there plenty of Live CDs out there already? Well, yes, there
are -- and even some that are based on Fedora. But we think that
Fedora-branded Live CDs are still important for a few reasons:
1. Everyone else has one. :)
2. It's an ideal low-risk strategy to allow people to find out what Fedora
is all about.
3. It's an ideal place for community contribution and development; the
technical barriers are well-understood, and the community has already
taken the lead in creating Fedora-based Live CDs. And in this
collaboration, we at Red Hat have an opportunity to grow closer to the
folks who dig our stuff.
So. To get the ball rolling, how about some introductions? I'll start.
I'm Greg DeK, community relations manager for Red Hat. I work on the
Fedora Extras project, act as legal go-between for the Fedora project, and
do a bunch of other stuff.
Some of my goals for this project:
* Build robust tools for building Fedora-based Live CDs, and putting
these tools into Fedora Extras.
* Create Live CDs from these tools, based entirely upon content in
Fedora Core and Fedora Extras, for official "blessing".
* Distribute these blessed Live CDs far and wide, through whatever
clever means we can come up with.
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