January 2006 - livecd - Fedora mailing-lists

Some braindumping
by Jeremy Katz 23 Jan '06

23 Jan '06

I spent a little bit of time a few months ago looking at Kadischi and sent Darko a bit of feedback (also based on some mail from him on what he saw the next steps as being). So, I figure it's time that I take that information and dump it for the wider audience now. Most of the suggestions are from the standpoint of trying to minimize the delta needed for creating a live CD and using existing infrastructure as much as possible (even in cases where that requires extending the infrastructure for things to work more cleanly). In the longer term, they're the sorts of things that make it so that live CDs can be more prevalent in the Fedora space and require less special case work to maintain. * The initrds currently being generated by Kadischi are from a one off script rather than utilizing mkinitrd. This means that you have to generate the initrd by hand afterwards instead of having the kernel post script do it for you. It also means that changes have to be tracked in the Kadischi version of the script. With the mkinitrd currently in rawhide, there is the ability to override commands from nash. Also, with the support for handling multiple initramfs's, a secondary initramfs can be created that just has the overriden commands. For ensuring that modules get included in the initrd, there is some support for overriding things that are detected via /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd -- we probably want to make it so that anaconda ensures that /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd is generated correctly so the first time an initrd is created, it's "right" * The ro root initscripts changes need to be integrated. But I think Bill is going to be actively working on this ;-) * There's been an ongoing concern that including support for every language Core supports on the live CD leads to a lot of space usage and wanting to strip down the content of /usr/share/locale. Instead of just nuking them in a post script, having a way to get anaconda to set % _install_langs isn't unreasonable, as long as it's not really being exposed in the UI of anaconda * What to do with firstboot? Do we want to show it at all, only do a subset of the config options? * How well does the X autoconfig work currently? I seem to remember it was working okay, so this might not be a huge concern That's a start based on my hazy memory at this point. And I'm willing to help people with any of them, but I definitely don't have time to drive them forward at this point. Jeremy

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Kadischi patch
by J. Hartline 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

Hi. I looked more into livecd-mkinitrd.sh and I see that in functions.py, there are no checks for SMP kernels, which.. thats right get installed on SMP machines. Could someone verify that the patch attached fixes this behavior for them? This is relavent to the problems listed here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=169812

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Kadischi wiki
by J. Hartline 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

Hi. Could someone get this things into CVS, Elliot perhaps? There is a .spec for building Kadischi from CVS, and a patch also attached. If these are sufficient commit them, I'm sure folks wouldn't mind. ;-) On a Fedora Core 4 platform machine I have here, brp-python-bytecompile doesn't seem to run. However, on a FC5t2 platform brp-python-bytecompile does, so it builds with the %ghosts. If it fails to build on FC4, touch %{_datadir}/%{name}/lib/shvar.pyc and %{_datadir}/%{name}/lib/functions.pyc and remove all %ghosts from %files except %ghost %{_datadir}/%{name}/lib/*.pyc Perhaps it is just my build environment why brp-python-bytecompile was not being called. I don't think so however. Thanks. J. Hartline Name: kadischi Summary: Kadischi - LiveCD tool for Fedora Core Systems Version: 0.1 Release: 1 License: GPL Group: Development/Tools URL: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi Source0: %{name}-%{version}.tar.bz2 Patch0: newrpms-kadischi-userbuild.patch Requires: python anaconda busybox-anaconda syslinux mkisofs Requires: zisofs-tools e2fsprogs Requires: /bin/bash /bin/sh Requires: libc.so.6 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) Requires: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.3) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4) BuildRequires: kudzu-devel glib2-devel intltool BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release} AutoReqProv: off %description Kadischi - Fedora Core LiveCD generation tool %prep %setup -q -n %{name} %patch0 -p0 %build glib-gettextize --copy --force intltoolize --copy -f --automake aclocal -I . autoconf automake --add-missing --copy %configure make %install rm -rf %{buildroot} make DESTDIR=%{buildroot} install ### redundant rm -rf %{buildroot}%{_datadir}/%{name}/doc/* %clean rm -rf %{buildroot} %files %defattr(-,root,root) %doc doc/CREDITS doc/FAQ doc/INSTALL doc/NEWS doc/README doc/TODO %{_bindir}/%{name} %dir %{_sysconfdir}/%{name} %config %{_sysconfdir}/%{name}/build.conf %config %{_sysconfdir}/%{name}/buildstamp %dir %{_datadir}/%{name} %{_datadir}/%{name}/*.sh %{_datadir}/%{name}/*.py %ghost %{_datadir}/%{name}/*.pyc %ghost %{_datadir}/%{name}/*.pyo %{_datadir}/%{name}/lib/*.py %ghost %{_datadir}/%{name}/lib/*.pyc %ghost %{_datadir}/%{name}/lib/*.pyo %{_datadir}/%{name}/post_install_scripts/*.sh %{_datadir}/%{name}/post_install_scripts/*.py %ghost %{_datadir}/%{name}/post_install_scripts/*.pyc %ghost %{_datadir}/%{name}/post_install_scripts/*.pyo %{_datadir}/%{name}/initrd/find-live-cd %{_datadir}/%{name}/ks_examples/minimal-livecd.cfg %{_datadir}/%{name}/initrd/livecd-linuxrc %{_datadir}/%{name}/patches/*.patch %{_datadir}/%{name}/install/readonly-root %{_datadir}/%{name}/install/rc.readonly-livecd %{_datadir}/%{name}/install/readonly-halt %{_datadir}/%{name}/install/scanswap %changelog * Tue Jan 17 2006 Jasper Hartline <jasperhartline(a)adelphia.net> - Added glib2-devel,intltool as BuildRequires * Mon Jan 16 2006 Jasper Hartline <jasperhartline(a)adelphia.net> - Added AutoReqProv eliminating /bin/ash dep - Added explicit Requires * Fri Jan 13 2006 Jasper Hartline <jasperhartline(a)adelphia.net> - Cleaned up %files - Added BuildRequires * Thu Jan 12 2006 Jasper Hartline <jasperhartline(a)adelphia.net> - Fixed incorrect URL in .spec - Fixed missing %ghosts * Thu Jan 12 2006 Rudolf Kastl <che666(a)gmail.com> - added patch to make it install clean - cleaned up file section - removed explicit requires - fixed the pre build part and proper use of macros * Mon Jan 9 2006 Jasper Hartline <jasperhartline(a)adelphia.net> - Built Kadischi rpm package (Initial Build)

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Run with it!
by Elliot Lee 19 Jan '06

19 Jan '06

Hey all! I get the impression that everyone is waiting for a kadischi maintainer to show up out of thin air. Unless I find a magic lamp really soon, this won't happen. :) So, if anyone would like commit access to kadischi CVS, and has a patch that they're already trying to get in, please e-mail me and we'll work on getting commit access for more of you. Best, -- Elliot Red Hat Summit Nashville (May 30 - June 2, 2006) http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/

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Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media
by J. Hartline 19 Jan '06

19 Jan '06

I'm willing to take the time out here to build anything the Fedora Project needs with kadischi, within my bounds of course. If you need LiveCD and LiveDVD images, provide a package list or some sort of information in what should be on it at least. A seemingly generic LiveCD to me I would think would be a Workstation type install, but I do believe that stretches the bounds of 650/700MB medias.

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New
by Tarek Taha 19 Jan '06

19 Jan '06

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archive
by Tim Wood 18 Jan '06

18 Jan '06

Is there a mail archive anywhere?

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an introduction...
by Bill Nottingham 18 Jan '06

18 Jan '06

Hi, I'm Bill, and I'm one of the resident old persons/man-behind-the-curtain @ RH. Something I'm intending to work on in the near future is integrating the stuff for readonly-root into the base OS; this means that, when done, most of the stuff in rc/ shouldn't be needed any more. Ideally, all that kadischi will need to do will be write the /etc/sysconfig/readonly-root file - there shouldn't need to be any image prep or similar. Some of the format of what gets done to enable running readonly may change somewhat, as the idea is to have a single framework shared by livecd, stateless, or other similar projects. I'll do my best to not break kadischi too much without sending patches. Bill

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new here
by Tim Wood 18 Jan '06

18 Jan '06

The great mailing list in the sky told me to do it, so... hello Anyway... I just stumbled on the fedora livecd project. Exciting stuff. I'm actually going to use it with CentOS, a close relative of Fedora. I'll try to make notes on anything with Kadischi that's specific to CentOS in case anyone else wants to use it with CentOS/ WBEL/etc. Tim Wood

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Kadischi - FAQ
by J. Hartline 17 Jan '06

17 Jan '06

Hi. I've added a FAQ to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/FAQ however, it was recommended to me that we use the same sort of format used here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ which is fine to me. Chitlesh, if you can do the changes neccessary to teh FAQ pages, or get back to me on this subject, or anyone else for that matter.. I can add that to the FAQ. If anyone is curious the FAQ was derived straight from this mailing list. I would think going into it in more detail would be ok, but depending on how it is written it could take up a large amount of FAQ space, which I don't think is an issue except cosmetically. Optionally, just the mention of pkgorder, genhdlist, comps.xml and adding RPM packages in the repo dir could also be sufficient. Some FAQs may warrant large answers, some may not. When that time comes I guess we'll figure it out. :0 J. Hartline

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The list lives
by tony 16 Jan '06

16 Jan '06

Nice seeing that it isn't as quiet as it was. Don't want to spoil anyone's fun but kadischi only works with stock Fedora Kernels which lessens its interest somewhat... Another bug which I signalled is that during the run anaconda nukes my /etc/resolv.conf file on the host machine. Most people don't have this problem I have it all the time. So to date I have been able to make heavily modified CDs with custom x.org rpms and lots of other funky stuff like xine and VDR but I can not build with a custom kernel build from the FC src rpm. Cheers Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx, hébergement: www.3continents.com - international film festival | www.chez-reine.com - gîte en Bretagne | www.haut-planty.com - Muscadet wine | www.loire-estuaire.org - GIP Loire Estuaire

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Status of kadischi ?
by Mike Kearey 16 Jan '06

16 Jan '06

Hi all, Am struggling to work out what is wrong with current kadischi (Most recent from CVS). I run the Live CD create command but it always bombs out at the end in the livecd-mkinitrd.sh - "/tmp/livecd-build_no11/system/lib/modules/None is not a directory." A bugzilla exists https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi? id=169812 that matches what I am seeing. A friendly poster in that bug seems to think it is anaconda's fault, that it indicates the kernel is installed when it really is not. I have tried altering anaconda using the changes indicated in the Bugzilla, however I see no difference.. I am using latest Fedora Core 4 packages ( yum update ), and anaconda-10.2.1.5-2, all within a VMware machine if that is relevent. What I really want to know is - Who has kadischi actually working ? If so what version of anaconda ? What CVS version? What release of FC? Once I know that I might track down the cause of the problem :) Cheers, Michael P.S Here are tail of results from kadischi build: making initrd image *** Fatal error: /usr/local/share/kadischi/livecd-mkinitrd.sh returned non zero (256) exit code. Aborting execution. Cleaning up temporary files... Done. In anaconda logging I also see right after package dep checking : * using freeglut-0:2.2.0-16.i386 to satisfy libglut.so.3 * failed to unlink /var/lib/rpm/__db.001: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/livecd-build_no30/system/var/lib/rpm/__db.001' * failed to unlink /var/lib/rpm/__db.002: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/livecd-build_no30/system/var/lib/rpm/__db.002' * failed to unlink /var/lib/rpm/__db.003: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/livecd-build_no30/system/var/lib/rpm/__db.003' * failed to unlink /var/lib/rpm: [Errno 21] Is a directory: '/var/lib/rpm' * moving (1) to step postinstallconfig And * Running kickstart %post script(s) * WARNING - Error code 256 encountered running a kickstart %pre/%post script * All kickstart %post script(s) have been run

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wiki editing reminder !
by Chitlesh GOORAH 16 Jan '06

16 Jan '06

Hello Kadischi Contributors, lately we are having new contributors. Welcome :) Ive created a small "how to test" in Kadischi/Contributors to ease the starting point. I would like to remind 2 guidelines of the fedoraproject wiki page: 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiEditing 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Languages (mainly for Translators) The fedoraproject has a page where contributors write their names when they are off for holidays. This page is http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Vacation . There is a link on Kadischi/Contributors Roozbeh Pournader cautions the use of Country flags in the wiki pages http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Languages#Flags Ive already removed those on Kadischi Chitlesh GOORAH -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com

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CVS Commit
by J. Hartline 16 Jan '06

16 Jan '06

Hi. I answered back the other day, someone suggesting they could grant some sort of access to the CVS for kadischi. The message may have not been sent. If Elliot Lee (sp?) or anyone else could get back with me on this I would like to get things on the bugzilla commited to the CVS. Them being: 1) newrpms-kadischi-userbuild.patch 2) A .spec file Not too much. Thanks. J. Hartline

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Kadischi Screenshots in osdir.com
by Chitlesh GOORAH 15 Jan '06

15 Jan '06

Hello everyone, My screenshots of Kadischi has been accepted by Chris Haney of osdir.com Here is the link : http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=551&slide=1&title=k… Chitlesh Goorah -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com

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Weekly Report?
by Chitlesh GOORAH 15 Jan '06

15 Jan '06

Hello there, Ive started a weekly report for the kadischi project. This project will describes briefly our progress during the previous week. At first i started here http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/Kadischi_Report_16_Jan_2006 and after RahulSundaram propose to create a Projects/Weekly Reports where weekly reports from each project will be published. We are also scheduled a weekly deadline for report submission. It is Monday. Today is quite too soon for other projects to catch up. So Ill ask Thomas Chung to publish our weekly news on Fedoranews tomorrow. If you have anything to add or say about the report. do it now. Because tomorrow it will be published. a request to all kadischi contributors to sign at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/Contributors JasperHartline can you please create a wikipage for yourself under : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JasperHartline Chitlesh GOORAH -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com

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Newbie question...
by Matt Bird 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

Hi all, Lurking around for a while and have just started playing with kadischi, building my first iso about 5 mins ago! Basically I want to create a custom bootdisk using standard fedora packages defined in a kickstart profile. So far so good, I know enough about kickstart this isnt a problem, the only thing I cant figure out, and this is where is gets laim :-) is is it possible to change the background image (gnome). I was thinking of using either kickstart post_install or kadischi post install scripts to change /usr/share/backgrounds/images/default.png to my own version before compression. Basically what im asking is, is this a workable method, which of the two scripts would be best, or is there another, better way of doing it. Thanks Matt

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ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack
by Chitlesh GOORAH 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

Hello there, Ive perfomed this as su - [root@goorah fedora]# kadischi /media/cdrecorder/ /tmp/fedorecore4.iso It failed twice at 100% after reading the packages from the DVD. the results are attached to this mail Is this a bug or lack of dependencies? -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com

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kadischi rpm & kadischi's TODO
by J. Hartline 11 Jan '06

11 Jan '06

Is anyone interested in maintaining kadischi rpm packages? I think it would be a good idea for this to be thought about now, before or after kadischi has a new project maintainer. I have built an rpm of kadischi, but as nmap64 and mether stated the kadischi project was lucky to have it's mailing list put on fedoraproject.org. Regardelss of what they believe I have used kadischi successfully polenty of times. I will continue to provide an installable package for ease-of-use to users that may request it. I will possibly look into packaging kadischi and submitting it to Fedora Extras. I know I like kadischi, I think it is pretty neat. I don't suppose anyone can get ahold of Darko or Greg and possibly ask for more details on the TODO list that is at http://fedoraproject.org/Kadischi uh? I'm particularly interested in "modify firstboot to do some configuration". The only thing I could think of is: 1) What runlevel should I start in? 2) What is the address of your internet gateway, or DHCP server? 3) What services should start during bootstrap? Any one else have any ideas?

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Custom version of anaconda?
by Andy Burns 08 Jan '06

08 Jan '06

Hello, I wanted to create a Fedora Live CD so tried kadischi, I'm running FC5/rawhide, I installed all the pre-requisites as shown on http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/KadischiDoc When I try to build a CD from a local FC5 http repo it checks the repo and then I get an error from anaconda error bad argument --livecd: unknown option Does kadischi require a custom version of anaconda, or have some changes not been carried through into the FC5 version of anaconda? I have anaconda 10.90.25 on x86_64 There is no mention of "--livecd" within the anaconda script with all the other options p.s. Is there any reason (other than time!) why kadischi isn't or can't be installed as an RPM in Extras?

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Re: Another FC3 oddity
by Glen Eustace 05 Jan '06

05 Jan '06

Well I am getting somewhere. The parport modules are not in the initrd.img :-( In 'livecd-mkinitrd.sh', these modules were supposed to be added as a result of running strip. However, strip was failing to load as the library libbfd-2.15.92.0.2.so couldn't be found. For the moment, until I can work our where this library needs to be, Im just doing a copy instead. This has got rid of the message during the boot. There seem to be numerous subtle differences between FC3 and 4 that I am having to work through/around but I am pleased to say that the kadischi process is serving me well. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 5301 Ph/Fax: +64 6 357 8168, Mob: +64 27 5 424 015, Web: www.godzone.net.nz "A Ministry specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services to NZ Christian Churches, Ministries and Organisations"

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Another FC3 oddity
by Glen Eustace 05 Jan '06

05 Jan '06

Somewhere between the 'find-live-cd' and 'pivot-root' in the livecd-linuxrc, I get a couple of messages from modprobe saying that the parport.ko and parport_pc.ko files can not be found. This didn't occur with the FC4 CD. I am a little confused as the files do appear to exist. Any clues as to why the appear ? This is a cosmetic issue as the CD is now working fine. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 5301 Ph/Fax: +64 6 357 8168, Mob: +64 27 5 424 015, Web: www.godzone.net.nz "A Ministry specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services to NZ Christian Churches, Ministries and Organisations"

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custom kernel
by tony 04 Jan '06

04 Jan '06

Hello, There haven't been many messages as of late and my last question went unanswered. I hope this one get a reply because it is a show stopper... I am trying to customise the kernel and rebuild the kernel rpm for my live CD. As it is destined to run on VIA Epia-M only I want all the VIA specific option enabled. I have followed the instructions here: http://crab-lab.zool.ohiou.edu/kevin/kernel-compilation-tutorial-en/steps.h… Does any one have another source for more recent instruction on kernel packaging? Cheers Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx en ligne www.tgds.net/epiaix1.html - A fedora Core 4 based live CD for VIA Epia-M

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Using kadischi with FC3
by Glen Eustace 03 Jan '06

03 Jan '06

I have had to abandon using FC4 for my project as there seem to be stability issues with one of the 3rd part components that I need to use. I thought Id have a go at using kadischi to build an FC3 LiveCD and was surprised to find that my first attempt was reasonably successful. Unfortunately subsequent attempts are failing miserable and I can not work out what I have done that has broken things. When mkzftree tries to compress the tree it fails with a non zero return code e.g. mkzftree: /usr/local/vmware/flcd/livecd-build_no179/system/proc/vmnet/hub0.1: Success *** Fatal error: mkzftree returned non zero (18944) exit code. Aborting execution. By modifying the kadischi source I have stopped it deleting things and find that in the build area, system/proc is somehow 'linked' to the real /proc on my workstation, I can not find how/where this is done or whether it is supposed to be. All my efforts to diagnose what is happening have made matters worse. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 5301 Ph/Fax: +64 6 357 8168, Mob: +64 27 5 424 015, Web: www.godzone.net.nz "A Ministry specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services to NZ Christian Churches, Ministries and Organisations"

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