Fedora 11 live cd hangs on logout...

[James Heather]

Can anyone else confirm that building the standard F11 live cd, against
the current F11-updates repo, results in something that hangs when you
try to log out of GNOME?

Attached are the F11 live cd kickstart files. The only changes I've made
are to enable the updates repo (and an inconsequential slight increase
to the partition size).

I've done the following:

1. Create the 64-bit live cd
    2. livecd-iso-to-disk -> usb stick
    3. Boot up
    4. Log in
    5. Log out
    6. Sob for mummy

Would be interested to know if others have the same issue. I presume
this is a gdm bug, but it is very hard to track down since it's a system
hang. (It's not actually a complete system hang, it's just that keyboard
and mouse are unresponsive; but one can log in over the network.)

This is killing me. I've spent several days trying to bugfix my custom
stuff, only to discover that it's not my bug at all, and it's in the
standard F11 build.

James

[Mads Kiilerich]

James Heather wrote, On 03/14/2010 07:01 PM:
> Can anyone else confirm that building the standard F11 live cd, 
> against the current F11-updates repo, results in something that hangs 
> when you try to log out of GNOME?
>
> Attached are the F11 live cd kickstart files. The only changes I've 
> made are to enable the updates repo (and an inconsequential slight 
> increase to the partition size).
>
> I've done the following:
> 1. Create the 64-bit live cd
> 2. livecd-iso-to-disk -> usb stick
> 3. Boot up
> 4. Log in
> 5. Log out
> 6. Sob for mummy
>
> Would be interested to know if others have the same issue. I presume 
> this is a gdm bug, but it is very hard to track down since it's a 
> system hang. (It's not actually a complete system hang, it's just that 
> keyboard and mouse are unresponsive; but one can log in over the network.)
>
> This is killing me. I've spent several days trying to bugfix my custom 
> stuff, only to discover that it's not my bug at all, and it's in the 
> standard F11 build.

I haven't seen that, but I probably haven't done exactly what you do.

I don't know what the problem is or how to solve it, but I can tell 
which stupid questions I came up with when I tried to see _if_ I could 
figure out what was going on.

Do you see the hang with a 100% plain F11 build with a ks from 
spin-kickstarts? Without updates?

You attached some ks files. Which change from the standard made a 
difference?

Exactly how do you run livecd-iso-to-disk? Which overlays do you create? 
Are they blank when you start?

You log in as liveuser (without password) and expect to get the gdm 
login prompt again after log out (i.e. you are not shutting down)?

Is ctrl-alt-f2 working? Is caps lock toggling as usual?

Are any liveuser processes hanging? What happens if you kill them (or 
just the X server)?

/Mads

[James Heather]

> I haven't seen that, but I probably haven't done exactly what you do.

Do you mean that you've done something pretty close to what I do and
haven't seen it? In particular, are you building F11 live cds?
> Do you see the hang with a 100% plain F11 build with a ks from 
> spin-kickstarts?

Yes, with updates
> Without updates?

Trying that now, but will take some time to download the release rpms.
> You attached some ks files. Which change from the standard made a 
> difference?

Including updates can be the only thing making a difference. No other
changes.
> Exactly how do you run livecd-iso-to-disk? Which overlays do you create? 
> Are they blank when you start?

livecd-iso-to-disk --reset-mbr --noverify --overlay-size-mb 900
--home-size-mb 1024 --unencrypted-home $ISOFILE $DRV

Yes, the overlays are blank on bootup.
> You log in as liveuser (without password) and expect to get the gdm 
> login prompt again after log out (i.e. you are not shutting down)?

Yes. But it is certainly nothing to do with that particular user or the
autologin. I first noticed this with the exam USB sticks I was creating,
where there was no autologin, and a password. Same thing. I tried
gradually undoing my changes from the standard F11, and discovered that
it happened even on the standard one.
> Is ctrl-alt-f2 working? Is caps lock toggling as usual?

Ctrl-Alt-F2 doesn't work, and nor does the power button (other than by
holding it in). Good Q about caps lock. I suspect the answer is no, but
I'll find out. The machine I'm sitting at at the moment doesn't have
LEDs.
> Are any liveuser processes hanging? What happens if you kill them (or 
> just the X server)?

Don't know how to tell if they're hanging. I tried killing gnome-session
but it made no odds. There are lots of liveuser processes... not sure
which other ones to try killing.

James

[James Heather]

An update on this: it is xorg-x11-drv-synaptics causing the bother.

To verify this, you can build a live cd from the F11 release repo,
without enabling updates. Put it on a USB stick, boot off it, and you
can log in and out with no trouble. Then

yum update xorg-x11-drv-synaptics

and reboot. Now try logging in and logging out.

I'm now trying using the F12 xorg-x11-drv-synaptics to see if that
solves the problem.

What a complete waste of three days...

James

On Sun, 2010-03-14 at 18:01 +0000, James Heather wrote:
> Can anyone else confirm that building the standard F11 live cd,
> against the current F11-updates repo, results in something that hangs
> when you try to log out of GNOME?
>
> Attached are the F11 live cd kickstart files. The only changes I've
> made are to enable the updates repo (and an inconsequential slight
> increase to the partition size).
>
> I've done the following:
> 1. Create the 64-bit live cd
> 2. livecd-iso-to-disk -> usb stick
> 3. Boot up
> 4. Log in
> 5. Log out
> 6. Sob for mummy
>
> Would be interested to know if others have the same issue. I presume
> this is a gdm bug, but it is very hard to track down since it's a
> system hang. (It's not actually a complete system hang, it's just that
> keyboard and mouse are unresponsive; but one can log in over the
> network.)
>
> This is killing me. I've spent several days trying to bugfix my custom
> stuff, only to discover that it's not my bug at all, and it's in the
> standard F11 build.
>
> James

[Jasper Hartline]

You need to file a bug on the package. It shouldn't be sitting in I/O wait
states or other things when you click logout.

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:04 PM, James Heather wrote:
> An update on this: it is xorg-x11-drv-synaptics causing the bother.
>
> To verify this, you can build a live cd from the F11 release repo, without
> enabling updates. Put it on a USB stick, boot off it, and you can log in and
> out with no trouble. Then
> yum update xorg-x11-drv-synaptics

[James Heather]

Yes, have done so.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573452

James

On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 20:32 +0000, Jasper Hartline wrote:
> You need to file a bug on the package. It shouldn't be sitting in I/O
> wait states or other things when you click logout.
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:04 PM, James Heather
>  wrote:
>     An update on this: it is xorg-x11-drv-synaptics causing the
>     bother.
>
>     To verify this, you can build a live cd from the F11 release
>     repo, without enabling updates. Put it on a USB stick, boot
>     off it, and you can log in and out with no trouble. Then
>
>         yum update xorg-x11-drv-synaptics