logistics December 2009

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RE: Fedora Insight theme packaged - what deployment blockers remain?
by Simon Birtwistle 23 Dec '09

23 Dec '09

Perhaps I can be on IRC at the same time as one or more members of the design team to go through what remains to be done on the templating side of things? I think that templates are all that's left now... -----Original Message----- From: Mel Chua <mel(a)redhat.com> Sent: 22 December 2009 10:48 To: Fedora Logistics <logistics(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: Fedora Insight theme packaged - what deployment blockers remain? Thanks to Hiemanshu, Fedora Insight now has a packaged theme. It's in infrastructure repos and F11 and F12 ones are also available. The package is called zikula-fedora-theme. Mind you, it's not a *finished* theme. All sorts of fun CSS/js to-dos still remain - see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Design (and help if you can!) - but it's installable via yum, and *works.* For proof, see http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/zikula. ...and with that, it actually looks like our list of packages is actually... all... packaged! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_Zikula_sandbox#Fedora_Insigh… Simon's earlier email (http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-December/000303.html) seems to indicate that fixing the zikula-fedora-theme package is the last thing we have to do, meaning that as soon as the three blocker design tickets on https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/query?status=new&status=assigned&statu… are fixed, we're hypothetically good to puppetize and go to staging. I'd like to remove the "hypothetically" from that last sentence. Now that all but 3 things on our to-do list are done, we should check again that all the things we need to do are actually on our to-do list. Is there anything else we're waiting for? What on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status is a blocker for initial production deployment, and what is an "it would be nice to have, but we could do it after launch" thing? --Mel _______________________________________________ logistics mailing list logistics(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/logistics

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Fedora Insight theme packaged - what deployment blockers remain?
by Mel Chua 22 Dec '09

22 Dec '09

Thanks to Hiemanshu, Fedora Insight now has a packaged theme. It's in infrastructure repos and F11 and F12 ones are also available. The package is called zikula-fedora-theme. Mind you, it's not a *finished* theme. All sorts of fun CSS/js to-dos still remain - see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Design (and help if you can!) - but it's installable via yum, and *works.* For proof, see http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/zikula. ...and with that, it actually looks like our list of packages is actually... all... packaged! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_Zikula_sandbox#Fedora_Insigh… Simon's earlier email (http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-December/000303.html) seems to indicate that fixing the zikula-fedora-theme package is the last thing we have to do, meaning that as soon as the three blocker design tickets on https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/query?status=new&status=assigned&statu… are fixed, we're hypothetically good to puppetize and go to staging. I'd like to remove the "hypothetically" from that last sentence. Now that all but 3 things on our to-do list are done, we should check again that all the things we need to do are actually on our to-do list. Is there anything else we're waiting for? What on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status is a blocker for initial production deployment, and what is an "it would be nice to have, but we could do it after launch" thing? --Mel

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Re: Fedora Insight update: the Websites team rocketh / will be taking back-end after launch.
by Mel Chua 19 Dec '09

19 Dec '09

On 12/19/2009 11:43 AM, Hiemanshu Sharma wrote: > Anyways the repo is located at > git://git.fedorproject.org/git/fedora-insight-theme.git Wow. Thanks, Hiemanshu! I've also copied these instructions over to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Design, and am happy to move them somewhere else if there's a better spot on the wiki. I suspect that eventually we'll want to move this to the Websites space, perhaps after launch when we update the documentation as part of the backend handoff. --Mel

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Fedora Insight update: the Websites team rocketh / will be taking back-end after launch.
by Mel Chua 19 Dec '09

19 Dec '09

Went to the Websites meeting yesterday to talk about Fedora Insight. Short version: We've got us some CSS help from Websites to finish up theming, and they'll be taking on maintenance of the back-end (FWN and Marketing will continue to own workflow and content) once we do the initial launch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites#Fedora_Insight What this means immediately: CSS design tickets are getting worked on. (https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/query?status=new&status=assigned&statu…) I've cc'd everyone with FAS access to the theme group and everyone who owns a Fedora Insight CSS/Design ticket to make sure they're informed, know who the others working on the theme are, and can (possibly) make arrangements to sprint on IRC together; I'd suggest making sure that both the Websites and Design teams know when and where that work will be happening. We'll also have proper versioning for theme stuff, finally - thanks to Hiemanshu for getting us into git! (Hosting ticket = https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1886, but it's just been taken care of.) Hiemanshu should be posting "here's the repo / how to use it" instructions shortly, I believe. --Mel

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Zikula Weekly Meeting
by Eric Christensen 16 Dec '09

16 Dec '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 We used to have a weekly Zikula meeting before the licensing issues brought us to a screeching halt. We are mostly beyond that, now. To meet the Insight time-line Zikula needs to be up and running in 2.5 months (at Alpha). That would also work for Docs as well. The following people need to be at the meeting: David (ke4qqq) Eric (Sparks) Mel (mchua) Simon (itbegins) Anyone else? If those NEED people could send me their available times I'll put together a time to meet. Also, we could use some additional packagers. If you would like to help us out, please let me know that as well and I'll include your schedule in my consideration. Thanks, Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJLKGL6AAoJEDbiLlqcYamxrm0P/ifOYI5zEzMtC9EHcyINg+rJ Iv3ACzeCi8ghjVAlO9xlHeXXzVDOIYcoSD9UZUcIc7hJw7pJHtUINKZjsvQ5Erjj W10Ji2UXamXKsm36miykaEhv6an5DX6RSCrAS7MYCHXTLGVwpyha0RhoDrrOJjOP YsmKYDy/pN46BLi2csjBKamB5zv+FZrEXkHNaMOgJvrW1J+5GuULW+4eInECQMPu cxUQ62x4gvukenUX7sJ/9cAjRfiS7jzRT4xE1yubOPOnTlwEWZ0K/rUBJaDqZ4pk mjIzWyu7zR7Z/V8blKxpsz+hVtLQy47eo2e2sfPDVGoI1xNzWGJOaovps/CsHZE3 XFsLRvPmx04IpwEjH4DNrFWQZ+WDUAo7r/KBIGfR8NkPnchJCCSC8bwwz/wfpD9u M0Hq/AlN5JWhoS5CU3agIZfSu0FmR8RxAg5gkBDczILVsCxLk+6ht5o2T7zC0uDS FTJUif446vAmgnBgVtkg9fPEuG2gBD3+b8n6Ck28aBUq8RmqY1OvhAvF2q5m6WbQ IEuRhCKKVwP1UYOYzBzvdawk8Y2Swf8oShLg9ev3UWrP5wzeRLwWQ1paiIyT6JIK TvD9tPzYt1JSal0A2Dq7k/3QzFgvgC6fjU9m3Ewennji8c47+ulFFOC9X0X+pQsX V78sXVNKmUemtbfOvRyc =RNdx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Marketing Infrastructure projects, update 2009-12-15
by Mel Chua 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

Since a substantial portion of what Marketing is working on between now and Alpha (March 2) is getting infrastructure/tools up so we can do our work efficiently for the rest of the cycle, here's a quick update on our two big marketing-related infrastructure projects, also sent to Logistics for cross-team goodness (and mayyybe packaging help? maybe?). Project 1: Zikula This is for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight (which includes FWN, and will be largely reusable for Docs), and progress is being tracked on the logistics list, https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/logistics. We are currently (still) on publictest6. We want to have soft-launched on production by Alpha (March 3). Simon has an overview of the remaining work that needs to be done before we can be puppetized (http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-December/000303.html) He's also updated the "how to set up a zikula sandbox" instructions, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_Zikula_sandbox. We are blocked by final fixes to the theme (design/CSS help needed!) which will then need to be packaged, as well as licensing issues with Scribite (http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-December/000301.html) but it looks like the interaction between Fedora and Zikula folks is beginning to snowball (http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-December/000302.html) I'd like to see if we can get packagers + upstream on IRC at the same time to just Work Out these licensing issues at one go, because asynch communication is Very Slow. After those blockers are out, I *think* we'll be go for puppetizing. Project 2: Limesurvey This is for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_research#Infrastructure, and seems like it should be relatively straightforward (but then again, that's what I thought for zikula...) Robyn Bergeron and Ryan Rix are driving this from the Marketing side of things, but I'm temporarily stepping in for Ryan since he's afk for exams this week. As far as I know, there's only one package involved in this (limesurvey) which is still under review (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508817) It *sounds* from the comments like it should be done and ready for approval, but a reviewer (*coughIancough* is needed). In the meantime, I tried installing the latest SRPM from Eric (Sparks) on pt6, and failboated, details here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_limesurvey_sandbox#Install_t…. Once the package is approved and installed on pt6, I *think* that's all we'll need (we might want to change the logo, but that's trivial and I really can't think of anything else atm). In the meantime-meantime, because we need to get the FUDCon survey up yesterday, we're giving limeservice $10 to host a 250-response survey for us so we can start administering that survey tomorrow. That means we'll have a db ready to migrate whenever our limesurvey instance goes up, plus people with familiarity administering limesurvey software via the web interface (some of us, myself included, have used it before and know the rudiments). Questions? Comments? Am I missing something? (Is this helpful?) --Mel

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RE: Fedora Insight: Remaining items
by Simon Birtwistle 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

I've updated the Zikula sandbox guide at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_Zikula_sandbox In theory, the first half or so should be enough to completely replicate the pt6 instance on a different machine. Its not too complicated as a process, fortunately. As far as I can tell, our major remaining item(s) is the template/design work which will require input from me as in places we will need some advanced template logic. We're very close, but we'll need some bandwidth from both me and the design team to get us over the finishing line. Simon > -----Original Message----- > From: Pascal Calarco [mailto:pcalarco@nd.edu] > Sent: 09 December 2009 00:56 > To: Simon Birtwistle; For discussions about marketing and expanding the > Fedora user base > Subject: Fedora Insight: Remaining items > > Hi all -- > > Simon made excellent progress on Monday resolving most of the errors on > publictest6 for Fedora Insight. Xinhua works nicely and I am able to > submit, decision, and publish articles with the workflow we designed > for > FWN. > > However, we are not ready to launch yet. We still need to cluster > individual FWN beats into a single issue. When I publish items, they > aren't showing up on the interface yet, as the design needs to get > synched with the templates that we worked on at FUDCon. There are a > number of design tickets open that Mo was working on. Diana made good > progress on some of these, and we should get the detail for these > tickets updated, but there are a number of tickets that we need Mo or > someone else on the design team to document and work on. > > We also did not quite get to the staging server, AFAIK. > > Perhaps we could meet on IRC sometime later this week to discuss > further? Thanks! > > - pascal > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.100/2554 - Release Date: > 12/09/09 07:32:00

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Fwd: Re: Nice to hear how its going with Zikula ...
by Mel Chua 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

Some questions from Nicolas (including package licensing ones I can't answer - help?), forwarded with permission - please reply-all so that he gets the answers as well. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Nice to hear how its going with Zikula ... Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:05:12 +0100 From: Nicolas Berens <nicolas(a)zikula.org> To: Mel Chua <mel(a)redhat.com> > Hi, Nicolas! Hi Mel! > > A screenshot tour of the final pagemaster workflow (once it's done) > sounds like a great idea - actually, one of the first articles I'd > like to see on the site once it launches is the story of how the many > people in the zikula community and from the various Fedora teams came > together to make this project happen - it's the kind of collaboration > that wouldn't happen Sounds nice ! > > I'm copying the Fedora Logistics list, where the different teams > working to put up our zikula-based sites coordinate, along with > Pascal Calarco and Dale Bewley, the Fedora Weekly News folks behind > our current workflow. They're the ones who'll probably be best > positioned to say "ok, we're done! here's how the workflow goes!" > when the time comes. > > You might also be interested in how we packaged pagemaster it for > Fedora - the ticket is here: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519483 > > There was some head-scratching about finding a static URL for > downloading the source > (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519483#c2) and a few > other things you can see in the comments thread, like its > relationship with filterutil and such. Would you or others on the > pagemaster team, or within the zikula community, be interested in > helping us figure out how to streamline the > getting-zikula-stuff-into-fedora workflow so that when the next > version of pagemaster comes out, we can deploy it much more quickly? I would be really interested, but also some of the zikula core devs will beginn iirc within the next months to work on the pagemaster project, because its getting more important for us. A Static Download url is maybe a problem. All Module downloads on community.zikula.org <http://community.zikula.org> are handled by our ExtensionsDB which creates always an individual package with the right language packs and other stuff that is needed (for example the core etc). Would it be ok for you when i package every release, upload it to the cozi and send you an E-Mail , so you can download it here: http://code.zikula.org/pagemaster/downloads ? This would be the easiest way for me. I have another question, I also work on the MediaAttach Module (a Module that enables an upload functionality to other modules), which seems to be quite interresting for you (Simon said something like this). And i have a ticket relating license issues of the librarys used within MediaAttach ( http://code.zikula.org/mediaattach/ticket/104 ) where David Nelly (seems to be one of your guys) is mentioning swf upload which has a MIT License. AFAIK MIT is opensource and compatible with GPL. Do you know why he thinks that there could be a Problem ? Greetings from Germany, Nicolas

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Scribite
by Eric Christensen 14 Dec '09

14 Dec '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The new version of Scribite (4.0) is ready to be pushed to the repo. I can't do that, however, as it requires Zikula 1.2. Any update on when that will be ready to go? - --Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJLJlTrAAoJEDbiLlqcYamxEuEP+gMI4/qhQfpeP58zf7B7xSPD laBxchKlugvnMVQoTDcKs82p08eFOWXlggOMFR5G4x3hRr/4ZN25kdBiFIBwroBD Z3y6n8+hcQLsGCKyTEGdbr03XEgCEQvHhkUePOnwh1WTNKiTmDguEKA0i3q5ggQE GadtyoA5nvYCa7zIvHF5+/xk5ebJ0RHFjZICQe1ywccRLJ+PxVm8jSxz7kGO/AG+ 9rZhuKJmRAgxSOA1xd01OvOlucXG20+uDgp1beRAu9YY5eI2OFRxpJyWXPdJwPEp 4aRlGercz9+odkT4BCyWQRSvRPhbcjRrwvBUlXHKOweS2uIMYZDC2dJ7wMv3Qgzx SKeuYB2PcNdj/QQ/+Q0ChUAeV6vHwZyEUAfwdlyvIZh6cIOvA739+GO6ggG3QkVB iAiu1hovycIfCbzF1tKenxZlQh3B7KOeU8C/3IfnEqnMUbxX2SZ5aR32Wuq2/yat ruBeR1NQWMEl6iHaQ3Sil8GepNdNy/kM3K0tfMnTuvwCoGJk0+SEE+OXKHAOrP26 r/UcgJudkUOa7PWhDILaTis8F4nMUng0WVNfk2QxwZnCBEJYQrwtCYcm+9p1ci66 3UAyFKty1j+D4f8spQOYEPeuvOQGjY0cazm5BvkEeJMaw0n+QV0AeNFIQyE80VLW u6golgvAyoe8eCgDtQfV =UFpr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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F13 Docs Schedule Meeting
by Eric Christensen 14 Dec '09

14 Dec '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'd like to setup a meeting for early next week between the translators and the docs folks to work out the schedule for the F13 release. I was thinking Monday between 1800 UTC and 2000 UTC or between 2300 UTC and 0300 UTC (Tuesday). Would there be a time in there that we could meet? Thanks, Eric Docs Project Lead -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJLIEizAAoJEDbiLlqcYamxABsP/25XjHbUPX3fhzXdrY+ccWz5 wiSKE+BBHDF4XxSXFIjCUQKQFOiejrm6rUeLI/+vr2zyEeLsm6f6U5das5/iBZp/ TSjJ032AMWAFxKwB6/N2gHs4VYv4doCF/MKh7KN1xcs0Dtnb9sLqfQB9hoyLoV1L EVcRaQmVMlByN+MS5x1zSOofDuE8RjCHgJukBO0zZlstGuIkiEfZ9PH79SR5tV/5 MgBs2tNftdgkSvvcUv4m2vKqiFUY3jodrfgVQVh6heCvlXQzGvMY6pMn8yliXvJu /i7ZVqfLZISlY08/VHlhSdR1tkP0N/C68Zpv1n+6hqFUJTPqxbW8Fk/AnyMmvmSz 3uzF3u8jHU+PKiZ+9TOKcBZKI1CnKt+/1h/TzGQ3b4CHvCM+0XFFpM8gC6+l7XDu XPai/siANNP+g29ipkligE5LKVUYWU1us1C01ExZB8ggqZQ9fV3ohuPKW9kwsqZI oe7z6vQ2ZftRbzX0/OxsGix/ll9x654Efe/azkHPDr91irgpXCc4xkPXFPr2Dc+z mAF19SvdYev4h3EUHhuUVKTH5kk/hKR/wk6g8RGSRL0gv9PCY0yIbv36agyO4d86 +DG7jImKoUYkymaxF62zLqcedd6D/5fRFuUnAc4LK2SNpE4oqqbfuKaaih6tNXEy xX6ZWHR/Ckqmxr6Zp1Ih =W8Cl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Nice to hear how its going with Zikula ...
by Mel Chua 13 Dec '09

13 Dec '09

> ... and also nice to hear that you are using pagemaster. When your > work on the workflow etc with pm is done, could you send it to us > (the pagemaster team) with some screenshots of your final site ? > > > would be nice to have another showcase > > > greetings from germany, nicolas Hi, Nicolas! A screenshot tour of the final pagemaster workflow (once it's done) sounds like a great idea - actually, one of the first articles I'd like to see on the site once it launches is the story of how the many people in the zikula community and from the various Fedora teams came together to make this project happen - it's the kind of collaboration that wouldn't happen I'm copying the Fedora Logistics list, where the different teams working to put up our zikula-based sites coordinate, along with Pascal Calarco and Dale Bewley, the Fedora Weekly News folks behind our current workflow. They're the ones who'll probably be best positioned to say "ok, we're done! here's how the workflow goes!" when the time comes. You might also be interested in how we packaged pagemaster it for Fedora - the ticket is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519483 There was some head-scratching about finding a static URL for downloading the source (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519483#c2) and a few other things you can see in the comments thread, like its relationship with filterutil and such. Would you or others on the pagemaster team, or within the zikula community, be interested in helping us figure out how to streamline the getting-zikula-stuff-into-fedora workflow so that when the next version of pagemaster comes out, we can deploy it much more quickly? --Mel

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Fedora 13 Go/No-Go Date--no looking back
by John Poelstra 09 Dec '09

09 Dec '09

Hi Everyone, Fedora 13, I mean Jesse, and I were just talking on IRC about the scheduling of the final "Go/No-Go" meeting. This is the meeting where all the key engineering teams meet to declare the release GOLD or not. In the past it has been Jesse's understanding that certain teams need decent lead time to "stop the presses" if our scheduled release date will NOT be met. For Fedora 13 we have the "Go/No-Go" meeting scheduled for 2010-04-19 (8 days before the public release on 2010-04-27) with the content going to the mirrors on 2010-04-22. If we were to move the "Go/No-Go" meeting closer to 2010-04-22 by a day or two (say TUES 2010-04-21 or WED 2010-04-20) would that cause problems for any of the teams if we were to declare on one of those dates that we were NOT releasing on the originally scheduled date? Please reply ASAP as we are trying to finalize the Fedora 13 dates soon. Thanks, John

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RE: Simon's FUDCon zikula session notes
by Simon Birtwistle 08 Dec '09

08 Dec '09

Back on the move again (seems like I always reply from my mobile) so apologies for the top post. New staging notes are on my list of things to do - hopefully the process should remain pretty simple. More soon... Simon -----Original Message----- From: Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com> Sent: 08 December 2009 19:53 To: Fedora Logistics <logistics(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: Re: Simon's FUDCon zikula session notes On Sat, 5 Dec 2009, Mel Chua wrote: > Simon Birtwistle's talk, just completed, on zikula - a CMS that's going > to be used by Docs and Marketing and News (in various ways for each). It > was awesomeness, and the crowd was fun. > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-room-2/2009-12-05/fudcon-room-2.200… > > Max and I had this transcribing-tag-team-thing going on here, so the > full logs are pretty complete (WOO! LOGS!) - we ended with a game plan > for the hackfest on Sunday and Monday, which I'll post shortly. > Just a quick note on this, I still need updated install docs for staging :) -Mike _______________________________________________ logistics mailing list logistics(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/logistics

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Simon's FUDCon zikula session notes
by Mel Chua 08 Dec '09

08 Dec '09

Simon Birtwistle's talk, just completed, on zikula - a CMS that's going to be used by Docs and Marketing and News (in various ways for each). It was awesomeness, and the crowd was fun. http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-room-2/2009-12-05/fudcon-room-2.200… Max and I had this transcribing-tag-team-thing going on here, so the full logs are pretty complete (WOO! LOGS!) - we ended with a game plan for the hackfest on Sunday and Monday, which I'll post shortly. --Mel

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The Move
by Mike McGrath 01 Dec '09

01 Dec '09

For those that missed it: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg00000… I was hoping to give better notice on this but smooge and I didn't even get our "Go ahead and get air and lodging" notice until yesterday. There's a lot of questions up in the air. The biggest problem is that the network still hasn't been configured. We've got servers sitting in PHX2 waiting for us to move services over but no way to get to them. I'm going to keep leaning on various teams to get that done but if it's not, we'll have more services impacted then we planned for. The last thing on our list is to make sure we can push out emergency packages if we need to (like 0 day remote ssh exploit or something) I've been working with releng on that. -Mike

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