Mike McGrath asked me about the URL for FI, and we agreed on
fp.o/insight as being the proper one. So the web proxies will
redirect people appropriately to the FI site. For something like FWN,
would we want to have FI handle providing fp.o/insight/news or
fp.o/insight/fwn itself, or should we have fp.o/news and fp.o/fwn come
to specific nodes or locations on the FI system?
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Fedora Insight folk: here is another non-critical, non-blocker
enhancement for post-F13 timeframe.
I've opened a new ticket on this:
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2100
and added this to the running list of FI items to work on:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Meeting_agenda:_2010-04-22
which can be discussed at the 4/22/10 FI meeting.
- pascal
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Fedora Weekly News 221
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 00:18:27 -0400
From: Karsten Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com>
Reply-To: news(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <news(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
To: news(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <news(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
References: <4BC61761.1080905(a)nd.edu>
<p2l76e72f801004151844j90a8dcfawf680fcb932a7e071(a)mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 09:44:48AM +0800, Yuan Yijun wrote:
> The format of FWN is not suitable for small screen handheld (320x480
> android) because of too frequent line breaks, can we improve it?
Do you mean the version sent via email?
I had been wondering about how the ''mailshot'' is done, so I looked
up the workflow:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/WorkFlow#Sending_New_Issue_Out_to_fedora…
Summary -- it's a manual copy, paste, and clean-up.
So, the only way to make it fit a smaller format is to reformat each
single paragraph, which is a *lot* of work.
This is what I think -- we're working on creating Fedora Insight and
using it to deliver FWN.
When we have that publishing FWN, let's look at a CSS for it to
produce a mobile version. E.g. mobile.news.fedoraproject.org.
Is that going to be hard to do? I don't know :) but I hope not.
- Karsten
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Meeting started by stickster at 18:02:41 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-04-15/fedora_insight.2010…
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Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll call (stickster, 18:03:02)
* Agenda (stickster, 18:04:20)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Agenda
(stickster, 18:04:23)
* Theming/design (stickster, 18:04:32)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/66 <-- skin ticket
(stickster, 18:08:28)
* To help with CSS in ticket #66, test your changes on publictest6 and
send patches to the logistics@ list (stickster, 18:08:52)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2057
(stickster, 18:09:43)
* #2057 was reopened, but is now found to work (stickster, 18:09:51)
* ACTION: pcalarco Close #2057 ticket (stickster, 18:10:06)
* Logistics (stickster, 18:18:43)
* Multi-group access is harder than we have time to do, and for now it
may not matter anyway -- we're not at the point of needing to pen
people up (stickster, 18:22:42)
* FASAuth works, and properly syncs the cmsadmin/Administrators groups
(stickster, 18:24:56)
* AGREED: Use a single cmsadmin/Administrators group for now, and look
into a RFE for multi-group access if/when we have enough people
working on the system to demand it (stickster, 18:26:21)
* ACTION: rbergeron to complete documentation for getting access
(stickster, 18:27:55)
* LINK:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight_Workflow#User_Accounts
(rbergeron, 18:29:10)
* Documentation (stickster, 18:34:12)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight_FWN_Workflow
(pcalarco, 18:34:31)
* ACTION: stickster to read and edit, correct as necessary the
workflow pages for FWN (stickster, 18:35:29)
* ACTION: stickster to read general news workflow page and send
comments and questions to logistics@ list (stickster, 18:37:12)
* All Other Business (AOB) (stickster, 18:40:42)
* Production needs to go up around 4/27 (stickster, 18:40:58)
* ACTION: stickster hiemanshu rbergeron Rendezvous on #fedora-mktg
anytime after 1500 UTC on Sun 2010-04-18 to work on workflow doc and
skin issues (stickster, 18:49:12)
* Infrastructure sync up (stickster, 18:50:36)
* stickster asserts we can have docs done by 4/22 or 4/23 (stickster,
18:55:20)
* hiemanshu asserts he can have skin done by 4/22 or 4/23 (stickster,
18:55:29)
* hiemanshu says, We need to get staging up around 4/24 (stickster,
18:55:56)
* If we hit the above deadlines, we can be ready for a 4/27 production
deployment that will serve FWN and general news. (stickster,
18:56:48)
Meeting ended at 19:01:20 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* pcalarco Close #2057 ticket
* rbergeron to complete documentation for getting access
* stickster to read and edit, correct as necessary the workflow pages
for FWN
* stickster to read general news workflow page and send comments and
questions to logistics@ list
* stickster hiemanshu rbergeron Rendezvous on #fedora-mktg anytime after
1500 UTC on Sun 2010-04-18 to work on workflow doc and skin issues
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* hiemanshu
* stickster hiemanshu rbergeron Rendezvous on #fedora-mktg anytime
after 1500 UTC on Sun 2010-04-18 to work on workflow doc and skin
issues
* pcalarco
* pcalarco Close #2057 ticket
* rbergeron
* rbergeron to complete documentation for getting access
* stickster hiemanshu rbergeron Rendezvous on #fedora-mktg anytime
after 1500 UTC on Sun 2010-04-18 to work on workflow doc and skin
issues
* stickster
* stickster to read and edit, correct as necessary the workflow pages
for FWN
* stickster to read general news workflow page and send comments and
questions to logistics@ list
* stickster hiemanshu rbergeron Rendezvous on #fedora-mktg anytime
after 1500 UTC on Sun 2010-04-18 to work on workflow doc and skin
issues
* **UNASSIGNED**
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On 04/14/2010 09:56 PM, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
> Caught this in IRC a bit ago -
>
> 17:23< mmcgrath> mchua_afk: any timeline on insight? We unfroze
> today and will
> freeze again on the 4th. If it's going to go live
> it should do
> so well in advance of that. I'd say April 26th at the latest.
>
So we have the Zikula skin for Fedora Insight ticket that is open and
then the FASAuth piece that we were testing last week as blockers. I've
updated the meeting agenda for tomorrow:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Meeting_agenda:_2010-04-15
I have the basic FWN workflow documentation complete. See:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight_FWN_Workflow
There is still some documentation that is pending the specifics of how
the FASAuth groups will map to Zikula permissions that we need to work
out. We can work on this in tomorrow's meeting.
- pascal
I'm attaching the diff I tried, but when I used these changes, even if
the user's group membership in FAS didn't include 'cmseditors' or
'cmswriters', both the 'Editors' and 'News' groups in Zikula were
turned on for that user when s/he logged in.
Halp!
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My plan is to hang out at the #fedora-marketing channel at about
4:00pm US Eastern to work on action items for Insight. I think Pascal
was going to join me, and anyone else is welcome. We are going to be
getting more deeply in Insight admin, I'm betting, so wear your
highwaters!
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora 13 Beta Release Readiness Meeting
=========================================================
Meeting started by poelcat at 19:00:13 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-04-08/fedora-meeting.2…
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* rollcall (poelcat, 19:00:33)
* Infastructure Status (poelcat, 19:05:16)
* Marketing Status (poelcat, 19:06:29)
* FESCo (poelcat, 19:08:51)
* Websites (poelcat, 19:10:46)
* Documentation (poelcat, 19:16:22)
* QA (poelcat, 19:19:23)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
(jlaska, 19:20:12)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test
(jlaska, 19:20:18)
* Release Engineering Status (poelcat, 19:22:39)
* ACTION: jjmcd track down if the file still actually exists on the
F13-Beta DVD. If not, issue is dead (poelcat, 19:38:55)
* Ambassadors (poelcat, 19:39:11)
* Design or Translation (poelcat, 19:44:43)
* Open Discussion (poelcat, 19:47:05)
* LINK: http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/
(walters, 19:55:45)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease <-- points to Alpha
still at this point. (stickster, 20:10:39)
* AGREED: ship existing 1G sized desktop live images for Beta
(poelcat, 20:15:01)
Meeting ended at 20:16:33 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* jjmcd track down if the file still actually exists on the F13-Beta
DVD. If not, issue is dead
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* jjmcd
* jjmcd track down if the file still actually exists on the F13-Beta
DVD. If not, issue is dead
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (stickster, 18:02:28)
* Present: stickster pcalarco mchua hiemanshu (stickster, 18:03:36)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight#Meeting_agenda:_2010-04-08
<-- Agenda (stickster, 18:03:57)
* Theming/Design (stickster, 18:04:35)
* ACTION: pcalarco File a new ticket for enhancement of separate RSS
feed per pubtype, cc itbegins (stickster, 18:09:30)
* ACTION: mchua will point mmcgrath at ticket 2009 to see that RSS now
provides headline/title (stickster, 18:11:40)
* ACTION: pcalarco hiemanshu will close ticket 2009 (stickster,
18:12:11)
* LINK:
http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/index.php?module=pagemaster&tid…
(pcalarco, 18:14:11)
* ACTION: pcalarco email stickster to set up a time on Friday
2010-04-09 to look at weighting problem, and then figure out if we
need to ask itbegins for more work (stickster, 18:15:28)
* Logistics (stickster, 18:16:19)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/109
(stickster, 18:16:30)
* ACTION: stickster rbergeron pcalarco to examine Fedora Insight
access levels by Monday to exercise/test FASAuth. (stickster,
18:23:55)
* AGREED: Make groups for cmsadmin, cmswriter, cmseditor and work with
them for now. (stickster, 18:25:38)
* LINK:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-04-01/fedora_insight.2010…
(stickster, 18:29:48)
* Setting up further workflows probably require or would be very much
helped by groups. (stickster, 18:35:00)
* ACTION: stickster to drive Friday afternoon session on groups,
likely around 4:00pm Eastern or after (stickster, 18:38:03)
* Documentation (stickster, 18:38:28)
* ACTION: stickster and pcalarco to finish [[Fedora Insight Workflow]]
with instructions that come out of tomorrow's (2010-04-09) work
(stickster, 18:41:12)
* ACTION: rbergeron Add marketing-team tickets for FI content to the
"Content" topic for next meeting agenda on [[Insight]] page
(stickster, 18:41:30)
* All Other Business (AOB) (stickster, 18:45:25)
* IDEA: Big Come to $DEITY meeting next week to see if we have
*substantially* advanced our progress to the extent that we're
feeling good about rolling out to staging. (stickster, 18:51:00)
Meeting ended at 18:57:52 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* pcalarco File a new ticket for enhancement of separate RSS feed per
pubtype, cc itbegins
* mchua will point mmcgrath at ticket 2009 to see that RSS now provides
headline/title
* pcalarco hiemanshu will close ticket 2009
* pcalarco email stickster to set up a time on Friday 2010-04-09 to look
at weighting problem, and then figure out if we need to ask itbegins
for more work
* stickster rbergeron pcalarco to examine Fedora Insight access levels
by Monday to exercise/test FASAuth.
* stickster to drive Friday afternoon session on groups, likely around
4:00pm Eastern or after
* stickster and pcalarco to finish [[Fedora Insight Workflow]] with
instructions that come out of tomorrow's (2010-04-09) work
* rbergeron Add marketing-team tickets for FI content to the "Content"
topic for next meeting agenda on [[Insight]] page
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* hiemanshu
* pcalarco hiemanshu will close ticket 2009
* mchua
* mchua will point mmcgrath at ticket 2009 to see that RSS now
provides headline/title
* pcalarco
* pcalarco File a new ticket for enhancement of separate RSS feed per
pubtype, cc itbegins
* pcalarco hiemanshu will close ticket 2009
* pcalarco email stickster to set up a time on Friday 2010-04-09 to
look at weighting problem, and then figure out if we need to ask
itbegins for more work
* stickster rbergeron pcalarco to examine Fedora Insight access levels
by Monday to exercise/test FASAuth.
* stickster and pcalarco to finish [[Fedora Insight Workflow]] with
instructions that come out of tomorrow's (2010-04-09) work
* rbergeron
* stickster rbergeron pcalarco to examine Fedora Insight access levels
by Monday to exercise/test FASAuth.
* rbergeron Add marketing-team tickets for FI content to the "Content"
topic for next meeting agenda on [[Insight]] page
* stickster
* pcalarco email stickster to set up a time on Friday 2010-04-09 to
look at weighting problem, and then figure out if we need to ask
itbegins for more work
* stickster rbergeron pcalarco to examine Fedora Insight access levels
by Monday to exercise/test FASAuth.
* stickster to drive Friday afternoon session on groups, likely around
4:00pm Eastern or after
* stickster and pcalarco to finish [[Fedora Insight Workflow]] with
instructions that come out of tomorrow's (2010-04-09) work
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
(Whoops. Sorry. Sent from the wrong email address initially and hit list
moderation.)
So the minutes and the log don't block on me:
Minutes from the Fedora Insight/Zikula meeting in #fedora-mktg just now
are at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-04-01/fedora_insight.2010…,
and full logs at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-04-01/fedora_insight.2010….
Because it's been a while and some folks (particularly the members of
the Zikula community this is going out to - but also people like myself
included) may need more context to understand what's going on, and jump
in to help, I'm going to be going through these minutes and writing up a
summary with more backstory after I'm done with my meeting that's about
to start in literally one minute. Will probably blog it too.
But in the meantime, here's the raw dump.
--Mel