Fedora Insight weekly meeting
by Paul W. Frields
Unfortunately, our late notice didn't catch enough people. Robyn is
going to work on rescheduling for later at a more convenient time. I
apologize again for the late notice which may not have reached some of
our key people in time. We still have > 30 days before the first
milestone and I'm confident that if we do a sprint or two we should be
able to reach the goal we set out for June 15. Notes follow.
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-05-12/fedora_insight.20...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-05-12/fedora_insight.20...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-05-12/fedora_insight.20...
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#fedora-mktg: Fedora Insight weekly meeting
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Meeting started by stickster at 17:01:55 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-05-12/fedora_insight.20...
.
Meeting summary
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* Roll call (stickster, 17:02:08)
* stickster didn't send the meeting time change yesterday as he meant
to, it only went out today at 1144 UTC for a 1700 UTC meeting
(stickster, 17:04:17)
* Agenda/meeting slip (stickster, 17:05:50)
* Foci for this meeting were supposed to be: 1. Ensure Zikula upstream
helpers understood our milestones; 2. Check status of pending
tickets with them so we could prioritize them properly (stickster,
17:06:39)
* Set focus for this meeting (stickster, 17:07:30)
* LINK:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-04-22/fedora_insight.20...
(rbergeron, 17:15:55)
* LINK:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2010-April/000511.html
(rbergeron, 17:16:40)
* LINK:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-04-22/fedora_insight.20...
(rbergeron, 17:17:19)
* meeting where we discussed slippage (rbergeron, 17:17:27)
* LINK:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2010-April/000511.html
(rbergeron, 17:17:46)
* mail from paul about us postponing FI (rbergeron, 17:17:54)
* LINK:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-04-29/fedora_insight.20...
(rbergeron, 17:18:04)
* mail with the discussion of milestones, how we are going to work
with zikula folks going forward. (rbergeron, 17:18:26)
* AGREED: Suspend meeting until later, work on getting Zikula people
at an available time. (stickster, 17:35:09)
* ACTION: rbergeron contact drak and mateo about their availability
(stickster, 17:35:26)
Meeting ended at 17:36:38 UTC.
Action Items
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* rbergeron contact drak and mateo about their availability
Action Items, by person
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* rbergeron
* rbergeron contact drak and mateo about their availability
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* rbergeron (40)
* stickster (31)
* smooge (17)
* zodbot (4)
* themayor (3)
* kushal (2)
* gwerra (1)
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13 years, 11 months
Reminder Fedora 13 Final Readiness Meeting 2010-05-13 @ 19:00 UTC (3 PM US Eastern/12 PM US Pacific)
by John Poelstra
This Thursday May 13, 2010, we will meet to make sure we are coordinated
and ready for the public release of the Fedora 13 Final release
(tentatively scheduled for) on Tuesday, May 18, 2010. This meeting was
originally scheduled for tomorrow on the Fedora schedule.
We will meet on Thursday regardless of the outcome from tonight's
"Go/No-Go Meeting."
date: 2010-05-13
place: irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
time: 19:00 UTC (3 PM Eastern)
This meeting works best when we have representatives from all of the
teams so we'll be looking for the following people to attend or send a
different representative:
Ambassadors -- David Nalley
Design -- Máirín Duffy
Documentation -- Eric Christensen
FESCo -- Kevin Fenzi
Fedora Engineering Manager -- Tom "Spot" Callaway
Fedora Project Leader -- Paul Frields
Infrastructure -- Mike McGrath
Marketing -- Mel Chua
Quality -- James Laska
Release Engineering -- Jesse Keating
Translation -- Noriko Mizumoto
Websites -- Ricky Zhou
13 years, 11 months
Upcoming Schedule Tasks
by John Poelstra
Start End Name
Tue 23-Mar Wed 26-May Fedora 14 Elections
Sun 09-May Sun 09-May Questionnaire answers due from candidates
Mon 10-May Tue 11-May Wrangler presents questionnaire answers
Mon 10-May Mon 10-May Reminder: Final Release Readiness Meeting
Tue 11-May Tue 11-May Fedora 13 Final Go/No-Go Meeting (20:00 EST)
Wed 12-May Wed 12-May All answers posted to questionnaire page,
advertise to voters
Wed 12-May Wed 12-May Fedora 13 Final Release Readiness Meeting
Thu 13-May Tue 18-May Town hall period
Fri 14-May Fri 14-May Final Export Control Reporting
Tue 18-May Tue 18-May Final (GA) Release
Tue 18-May Tue 18-May Reflect supported versions in Bugzilla product
description
Wed 19-May Wed 19-May Finalize Voting Application
Thu 20-May Thu 20-May Voting Begins
Thu 20-May Tue 25-May Voting for general elections
Wed 26-May Wed 26-May Voting Ends
13 years, 11 months
Re: Insight for post-GA
by Drak
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 04:15:23PM -0400, David Nalley wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> One very important consideration going forward is, how many
> *self-service* resources exist for people to learn and grow skills on
> the platform?
All,
I'm the project lead of Zikula and I have been following this thread with
interest because for many months I have silently worried about these topics
and that the development and launch of Insight has, from my point of view,
taken much longer than it really needs, especially because, in reality,
Insight doesn't even demand anything particularly demanding from a Zikula
platform perspective that might require more in-depth customization. Of
course, I am acutely aware of the problems we all face in open-source, in
that it's all effectively a hobby and people have to earn the bread and
butter so individual time is limited. I can also understand all of your
concerns about 'leaning on the Zikula people too much' etc, but this has
given me exactly the right opportunity to speak.
Firstly, I am passionate about Zikula and I am lucky that I am able to work
full time on the Zikula project without distractions from a 'have to do real
job'. From my own perspective, Fedora's adoption of Zikula is a very
positive thing for our project - one that is worth nurturing and caring for.
Secondly, the Zikula project already has an active policy to care for
things directly related to and that benefit Zikula. Not only do we care for
the development of the Zikula core, but we indeed develop and care for a
number of modules too, actively as a policy. After the next Zikula dot
release, we will also move much more actively into documentation and
training to raise awareness. I tell you all this because I want to so how
active the Zikula project is with related projects. The pagemaster module
that is being used for Insight is also being officially developed by the
Zikula Foundation.
>From my perspective, it would make perfect sense for some of our people to
join the Fedora project on a more official basis with the objectives of, a)
bringing Insight to fruition, b) to be available for maintenance, and c)
training some of you in the ways of Zikula over time. In doing this, you
also do not have to feel you are taking advantage of us because we would be
real Fedora volunteers passionate and interested in helping the Fedora
project. I believe this will help Fedora in the long term and strategically
for us, it is a good investment of our time and resources.
I hope I have not said anything wrong or offended anyone - I am just trying
to find a practical solution with mutual benefit.
Regards,
Drak
Project leader for Zikula.
13 years, 11 months