Meeting postponed
by Paul W. Frields
I'll be on travel today and not available for the regular Insight meeting at
1800 UTC (2:00pm EDT). If someone wants to run it in my stead you're welcome
to do so.
I'm curious to know:
* how the theme is going
* whether Pascal tried fixing the input format on the FWN entries and how
they looked as a result
Paul
12 years, 6 months
Fwd: Oct 8th - Etherpad FAD at Olin College! (Outside Boston, MA)
by Colin Zwiebel
Hey logistics, marketing, ambassadors, college ambassadors. The Olin College
FAD is ON! I'd like to open this invitation to the the wider Fedora
community. New to the Fedora community, java-devel is about the only list I
can spam, so kindly send this to relevant parties. You have my permission to
modify as appropriate.
On the Boston side, I would especially like to reach other colleges (MIT?
BU? BC? Wellesley? North-Eastern? etc.) Part of those communities or know
someone who is, tell me about it!
And always, would love to hear thoughts, praise, complaints, hopes and
dreams.
Cheers,
Colin
---------- ----------
[image: ep_fad_poster_x500.png]
Oct 8th starting 5pm - Oct 9th
We're holding a Hackathon / Fedora Activity Day at Olin College in Needham,
MA!
Etherpad is open source software for teams to type together on the same
document.
Join a team of students, alumni, and Fedora Linux hackers as we improve
Etherpad for ourselves and the world!
Cut to the chase: *http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Etherpad_FAD*
== What is EtherPad? ==
Etherpad is pretty much the pinnacle of online, collaborative text editing.
If you're not familiar with EtherPad, take a look at this
video<http://www.viddler.com/explore/aaroniba/videos/1/>
.
== Backstory ==
EtherPad was acquired by Google in 2008 and the code was open-sourced
(yay!). Buuut the EtherPad code-base isn't exactly in a packageable state,
as demonstrated by SDZ, here <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Etherpad>. (SDZ
is an Olin student!)
Thus we plan to:
* Repackage EtherPad in a consistent, portable way, more best-practice form
* Create compliant, Fedora packages for EtherPad
* Setup EtherPad instance on Fedora Infrastructure (infrastructure managers,
sorry, quietly stop choking and shoot me an email so I can explain Fud +
EtherPad = awesome and discuss how to go about that)
* Teach non-Propeller-heads about OSS development and the technologies used
== When? ==
** *Friday, October 8th - Saturday, October 9th* **
(and maybe early Sunday if we get some of the no-sleep crowd).
Dinner on Friday. Dinner and lunch Saturday.
Can't attend in person? Remotely join us! See the
wiki<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Etherpad_FAD#I.27m_far_away_.2F_can.27t_ph...>
.
== Us ? ==
Andy, Sebastian and I are Olin College students and long-time linux users,
and total EtherPad fanboy. We would love to give back to all three of these
communities and help people get involved in open source software.
Finally, there is generally just a lot of cool technical stuff inside
EtherPad? Server-side-JS? Scala? Comet? Collaborative diffing? Web-service
architecture? Your totally welcome to come and geek out on these topics, and
maybe learn a thing or two about how EtherPad works.
Check us out on the wiki and twitter:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Etherpad_FAD
http://twitter.com/olinetherpadfad
Cheers,
Colin, Sebastian, Andy
P.S. You've probably never heard of Olin College, but you should
totally look at the crazy higher-ed experiment we're running:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olin_college
12 years, 6 months
Introduction
by Anuj More
Hello friends,
I am Anuj More[0] and I came across a lot of discussions about Fedora
Insight (We dont want to call it as our attempt to take over Ubuntu, but I
am sure it will help in that direction) To my delight, there are talks of
the site being built in Drupal.
I have a considerable experience working with Drupal, Joomla and Wordpress.
In fact, I built this site[1] with my college pal (Nothing great happening
there, but you can check the modules and themes used) in Drupal. I am very
much familiar with the modules used. I am comfortable with C, C++, Java
(Yeah. That is a part of my SE (Second year engineering) portion) Learning
PHP at present.
If there is anyway I could help in making/marketing/promoting that site, I
would be more than ready to help.
I am a part of :
* Fedora Ambassador Project (user)
* Signed CLA Group (user)
* Fedora CLA Group (user)
* Fedora News Contributor Group (user)
If it matters in anyway [:P]
[0]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Anujmore
[1]http://studenthub.in
May not relate, but my Wordpress autoblog link:
http://innudge.xtreemhost.com
--
Anuj
Daily blog: http://hashfml.blogspot.com
Visit: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Anujmore
Promoting: (pro-GNU/Linux)
http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm (GNU/Linux's not Windows)
12 years, 6 months
Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks
by John Poelstra
Start End Name
Tue 14-Sep Tue 21-Sep Collect Fedora 15 Names on Wiki
Tue 14-Sep Fri 08-Oct Name the Fedora 15 Release
Tue 14-Sep Tue 14-Sep Features 100% Complete Deadline
Tue 14-Sep Tue 14-Sep Beta Change Deadline
Tue 14-Sep Tue 14-Sep Announce Beta Deadline & Feature Complete
Wed 15-Sep Wed 15-Sep Reminder: Beta Blocker Meeting (f14beta) #4
Wed 15-Sep Wed 15-Sep Deliver features < 100% to FESCo
Fri 17-Sep Fri 17-Sep Beta Blocker Meeting (f14beta) #4
Mon 20-Sep Mon 20-Sep Reminder: Fedora 14 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting
Mon 20-Sep Mon 20-Sep Reminder: Beta Release Readiness Meeting
Tue 21-Sep Fri 24-Sep Board Review of Proposed Fedora 15 Names
Wed 22-Sep Wed 22-Sep Fedora 14 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting (17:00 EST)
Wed 22-Sep Wed 22-Sep Reminder: Final Blocker Meeting (f14blocker) #1
Thu 23-Sep Thu 23-Sep Fedora 14 Beta Release Readiness Meeting
Fri 24-Sep Fri 01-Oct Legal Review
Fri 24-Sep Fri 24-Sep Beta Export Control Reporting
Fri 24-Sep Fri 24-Sep Final Blocker Meeting (f14blocker) #1
Tue 28-Sep Tue 28-Sep Beta Release Public Availability
12 years, 6 months
Fedora Insight meeting today at 1800 UTC (2pm EDT/11am PDT)
by Paul W. Frields
We'll meet in IRC Freenode #fedora-meeting today at our regular time,
1800 UTC (2pm EDT/11am PDT).
Hopefully everyone's made some progress -- if you need to catch up,
please look at the action items listed for last week:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-09-02/fedora_insight.20...
Here's a summary of those items:
1. gwerra Install Views module and create a custom view that will
display the FWN issue Book as a single unified page with all
children
2. gwerra reach out to Jon Ciesla and work on packaging Flexifilter
and Views for drupal6 in EL-5 and maybe EL-6
3. rbergeron to look at Insight Project Plan and add items from
Marketing perspective
4. rbergeron Put infrastructure freeze calendar items in our plan so
we know when we can't move things around
5. pcalarco will notify FWN team of direction of FWN @ Fedora Insight
on Drupal, and get them looking at pt4
I added a facility over the weekend for producing proper footnotes
from references in the original FWN wiki.
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12 years, 6 months
Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks
by John Poelstra
Start End Name
Mon 06-Sep Fri 10-Sep Daily Review & Notification of Open Beta Blocker
Bugs
Tue 07-Sep Tue 07-Sep Remind Features 100% Complete in 1 week
Tue 07-Sep Tue 07-Sep Remind Beta Deadline in 1 week
Wed 08-Sep Wed 08-Sep Reminder: Beta Blocker Meeting (f14beta) #3
Fri 10-Sep Fri 10-Sep Beta Blocker Meeting (f14beta) #3
Tue 14-Sep Tue 21-Sep Collect Fedora 15 Names on Wiki
Tue 14-Sep Fri 08-Oct Name the Fedora 15 Release
Tue 14-Sep Tue 14-Sep Announce Beta Deadline & Feature Complete
Tue 14-Sep Tue 14-Sep Features 100% Complete Deadline
Tue 14-Sep Tue 14-Sep Beta Change Deadline
Wed 15-Sep Wed 15-Sep Reminder: Beta Blocker Meeting (f14beta) #4
Wed 15-Sep Wed 15-Sep Deliver features < 100% to FESCo
Fri 17-Sep Fri 17-Sep Beta Blocker Meeting (f14beta) #4
Mon 20-Sep Mon 20-Sep Reminder: Fedora 14 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting
Mon 20-Sep Mon 20-Sep Reminder: Beta Release Readiness Meeting
Tue 21-Sep Fri 24-Sep Board Review of Proposed Fedora 15 Names
12 years, 6 months
Fwd: Olin Etherpad Hackathon Planning
by Colin Zwiebel
And the last Olin Etherpad FAD thing (for now). Doing some initial
"research" on student interest on the FAD.
I don't expect much from these results, but I would like to get some student
buy-in (seems to work better if people respond, they some how accepted).
And if my psychology doesn't work out, at least they get exposed to the FAD
another time. People tend to get less angry about survey + invitation
than invitation + invitation + invitation.
Next step is to work on advertisements. Olin doesn't need them until 2 weeks
prior (we can't plan, love spontaneity). But the community needs them now!
Got enough propellor-heads I feel comfortable going public.
Cheers,
Colin
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Colin Zwiebel <colin(a)zonion.org>
Date: Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 3:13 AM
Subject: Olin Etherpad Hackathon Planning
To: Most of Olin College
[image: etherpad_sm.png]
You've used it, loved it, wished it was still improving?
(If you haven't, check out a video
demo<http://www.viddler.com/explore/aaroniba/videos/1/>and try
it <http://etherpad.org/etherpadsites.html>!)
We're organizing an Etherpad Hackathon to take a significant whack at the
project. Sound interesting? Tell us how we can make this even 100% awesome:
If you have trouble viewing or submitting this form, you can fill it out
online:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDl3VnBnQ2poVy12Q3lFSk1u...
Olin Etherpad Hackathon Planning
Help us plan an awesome Hackathon around Etherpad. We want to know (within
bounds) what you're into.
What Class? * 2011, 2012, ...
Have you heard of Amarok? *
- Yes
- No
KDE? *
- I'm super-interested
- Heard of it
- What's that?
How do you feel about Etherpad? *
- Never heard of it
- Wish etherpad.com still worked
- I still use Etherpad clones (typewith.me, piratepad, etc)
- Want to know how Etherpad works
Would you be interested in a mini-summit / Hackathon on netbooks? *
- Yeaah!
- Eh, if it was convenient
- No, not really... at all
Have you ever contributed to Open Source software? *
- Yes
- Well... I've submitted a few bugs
- No
Which of these would interest you most? *
- Learning how cool software/web-service work (like Etherpad, ajax heavy
web-apps)
- Hearing about UI design and project management
- Learning about software libraries and frameworks
- Digging right into projects, testing, coding, documenting
- Avoiding computers
- Other:
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12 years, 6 months
Fwd: Etherpad FAD Update -- 90%
by Colin Zwiebel
Hey, update on the Olin Etherpad FAD,
Thought I would keep you all in the loop. Here's what I'm thinking for a
general talk for the Olin community. Should be cool. Now to work on budget
and advertising.
Mel, heads up, we need to budget. Still some up in the air stuff. Jon
Stanley and Spot. And trying to see about getting admissions room for
someone and maybe putting someone up at Babson Executive Center (kinda
pricey, in my cheap-college opinion). Just budget the worst case scenario?
Colin
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Colin Zwiebel <colin(a)zonion.org>
Date: Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: Etherpad FAD Update -- 90%
To: Jeff Mitchell <mitchell(a)kde.org>
Ahh, details, details.
The reason I keep referring to Java is because I think the build systems are
going to have to be Ant or Maven, more likely known by a J2EE person. I
guess I should just call them Ant/Mavenites =P
Okay, real questions. Now that I'm back at Olin I've met with a few people.
We would like to have you talk about something that will really pull in Olin
students. Oliners students are quite particular about their specific
interests. We have brought in Nobel laureates and have almost no-one show to
the talk. Then we bring in the Harmonix developers and the whole school
shows up.
I realize I don't know much about your background. Do you do UI/UX? Coding?
S Community involvement? A combination of the above.
I'm asking because grabbing attention at Olin is kinda tricky. You have
great content. I think Oliners would be really interested to hear about
Amarok. It is the format, not the content that will grab or leave Oliner's
attention. I'm trying to brainstorm a bit how to take something like your
KDE 4 release talk and put it in a context that Oliners will just eat up.
I'm just brainstorming here
Tag Line: Amarok -- building music that frees your library (/building music
that lets you rediscover your music)
Content: History, philosophy, and design of Amarok
Tag Line: Managing software built by volunteers on 6 continents -- Project
management of Amarok
Content: History, goals of the project, decision making, meeting deadlines
Tag Line: Analytics and music -- How Amarok and last.fm remove noise from
your own music library
Content: History of Amarok-Last.fm, recommendations, how it works
A few things I think Oliners will just love regardless
* Demo/mockups
** Show off an alpha version or mockups
** Watch eyes glaze over
** We *need *to have this!
* "Engineering story"
** Description of an implementation, hurdle, problem solved
** Think TED talk "we built a 100m telescope in space using origami. Here's
the story"
* Skills and practical advice
** In project management, do this
** Team dynamics are best preserved like X
*Design
** Every major has a design "core"
** Hearing about design decisions is cool
So, the big disclaimer is I don't even know if you're able to talk about,
say, project management.
I would like to get people excited about OSS, so a push for open-source
contributions, or Amarok, or the KDE community is a must. Oooh, forgot, you
ranted a bit about the EP community. I think Oliners would love to hear
about that. EP community v. KDE would be cool. You could just rail on EP
then describe KDE.
Aaand if that all sounds like preparing a whole new presentation, you could
do something you already have, keep it short, and I'll field you questions
that Oliners would want to know (and which they might not want to ask):
"I often here that if you can't code, you can't help out on an open-source
project, what about non-code contributors, what all happens in KDE?"
"What is music brainz, did KDE help develop it, and how does it make desktop
music better for me?"
Basically, just let me know what here catches your eye and isn't another few
days of work on your part. Oh, and point out what assumptions I've made
about you, Amarok, KDE are wrong--keeps me from sending you stupid titles.
Colin
P.S. Looking up AmaroK information from your blog and talks. Really
interesting stuff. I had never heard of Solid. Also, I don't recognize the
plasma widget integration. Maybe that was before KDE went all gray.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Jeff Mitchell <mitchell(a)kde.org> wrote:
> On 8/31/2010 6:09 AM, Colin Zwiebel wrote:
> > I think thats fine. My guess is we'll have a few different types of
> > people showing up. Some will show because they are Java whizzes and want
> > to hack on EtherPad. Others will be less inclined to jump straight in
> > (for now :] ) and more interested in hearing a talk.
>
> I again want to remind you that EtherPad is not written in Java. It's
> written in JavaScript and Scala.
>
> --Jeff
>
>
12 years, 6 months
Insight meeting recap 2010-09-02
by Paul W. Frields
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-09-02/fedora_insight.20...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-09-02/fedora_insight.20...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-09-02/fedora_insight.20...
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll call (stickster, 18:01:03)
* Theming and schedule (stickster, 18:03:53)
* CSS changes have almost been merged, changes will be pushed to the
old repo linked on the FI wiki page (gwerra, 18:04:40)
* AGREED: 28th sept soft deadline for theming, and 1st oct hard
deadline for staging (stickster, 18:05:52)
* AGREED: We should be able to get something to production before Oct.
18 with that schedule (stickster, 18:07:56)
* We'll continue to make sure everything is reproducible by
documenting and/or putting things in repos where they can be tagged
for pulls (stickster, 18:08:21)
* Last week's action items (stickster, 18:10:04)
* 7 is underway already :-) (stickster, 18:10:52)
* ACTION: gwerra Install Views module and create a custom view that
will display the FWN issue Book as a single unified page with all
children (stickster, 18:12:20)
* ACTION: gwerra reach out to Jon Ciesla and work on packaging
Flexifilter and Views for drupal6 in EL-5 and maybe EL-6
(stickster, 18:13:02)
* abadger1999 is short on free cycles and although interested in
continuous integration idea from drak, may not be able to pursue it
right now (stickster, 18:15:16)
* smooge handled action item 9 (stickster, 18:16:18)
* 8 is underway (stickster, 18:17:00)
* ACTION: rbergeron to look at Insight Project Plan and add items from
Marketing perspective (stickster, 18:17:31)
* ACTION: rbergeron Put infrastructure freeze calendar items in our
plan so we know when we can't move things around (stickster,
18:17:39)
* ACTION: pcalarco will notify FWN team of direction of FWN @ Fedora
Insight on Drupal, and get them looking at pt4 (stickster,
18:18:30)
* Drupal status (stickster, 18:19:42)
* stickster is still working on Flexifilter (stickster, 18:19:50)
* All other business (AOB) (stickster, 18:23:54)
* publictest4 is being rebooted next Tuesday or Wednesday and smooge
will notify us before that happens (stickster, 18:26:18)
Meeting ended at 18:28:18 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* gwerra Install Views module and create a custom view that will display
the FWN issue Book as a single unified page with all children
* gwerra reach out to Jon Ciesla and work on packaging Flexifilter and
Views for drupal6 in EL-5 and maybe EL-6
* rbergeron to look at Insight Project Plan and add items from Marketing
perspective
* rbergeron Put infrastructure freeze calendar items in our plan so we
know when we can't move things around
* pcalarco will notify FWN team of direction of FWN @ Fedora Insight on
Drupal, and get them looking at pt4
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* gwerra
* gwerra Install Views module and create a custom view that will
display the FWN issue Book as a single unified page with all
children
* gwerra reach out to Jon Ciesla and work on packaging Flexifilter and
Views for drupal6 in EL-5 and maybe EL-6
* rbergeron
* rbergeron to look at Insight Project Plan and add items from
Marketing perspective
* rbergeron Put infrastructure freeze calendar items in our plan so we
know when we can't move things around
* **UNASSIGNED**
* pcalarco will notify FWN team of direction of FWN @ Fedora Insight
on Drupal, and get them looking at pt4
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* stickster (64)
* gwerra (15)
* smooge (11)
* zodbot (6)
* rbergeron (0)
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